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10-16-2010 04:19 AM  8 years agoPost 21
Aaron29

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10-16-2010 04:41 AM  8 years agoPost 22
Dr.Ben

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Shave 1.5-2D of pitch off the bottom and add it to the top for better autos. You have plenty of pitch range overall.

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10-16-2010 04:47 AM  8 years agoPost 23
Dr.Ben

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The SSZ-III head works best in the mid 1400's to 1500 rpm range. Run 1950 - 2000 rpm in aeros. 490 mm flybar.

RE the tube drive, the Hirobo unit is a lovely affair. I switched my model to belt because the system is far more tolerant of minor tail blade strikes which would otherwise tend to strip the machined ($) gears that comprise the TT system. It's darn near impossible to tear up gears with the belt system even with a really lousy auto.

What else?

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10-16-2010 08:50 AM  8 years agoPost 24
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Here's my Eagle3 WC waiting to be assembled, it is an early one with Tube drive

'Life' is Looking Up!!!

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10-16-2010 02:19 PM  8 years agoPost 25
G Steyn

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So far it sounds good Roto

I think those blades hover nice at approx 1650. 2000-2100 for flying around.

+-10 to 11 deg, and 6 deg cyclic should work well.

You're not going to auto much for now, later we'll look at a little higher positive pitch for the autos.

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10-16-2010 02:22 PM  8 years agoPost 26
Rotohead sa

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Thanx again Dr Ben.
You truly know your stuff.
Will do as you seggest with regard to the -pitch and ad it to the top.
I'm used to 3D setups, so Still have to learn allot for F3C.. But thats the fun part.
With your last post, I'm glad then someone already did the belt conversion on mine, for the sake of the gears.
Is there something I'm missing, or as for now, I think she is ready to take to the sky tommorow.
Will report back after MY maiden with the AWSOME Eagle.

Thanx again for all the help guys, but I'm sure there will be allot more Q's comming real soon.
THis site is truly amaizing, with all the help. Keep it up all

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10-16-2010 02:27 PM  8 years agoPost 27
Rotohead sa

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Dankie G.
I agree, not going to try allot of Auto's right now.
First want to get the feel for the heli.
Just wished I had the space here by the house like you to fly everyday and anytime.
Cant twist your arm to come over to our field tommorow for the maiden... ?

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10-16-2010 03:48 PM  8 years agoPost 28
G Steyn

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Late in the day, yes, no problem.

In the morning, I'll be attending the Masters F3C competition @ Barnstormers. You should be there as well!!!

Concentrate on your weaknesses and your strengths will reward you!

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10-17-2010 12:26 AM  8 years agoPost 29
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Colin.......What on earth have you been doing!!!! I thought you would have had her built and flying it by now!
Stop drooling over the box and get builing

Your gonna love it!

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10-17-2010 03:09 AM  8 years agoPost 30
F3CWNB

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Us poor Kiwi's need to go to "work" so that we can afford to buy the toys that we don't really have the time for...

I was in Mexico two weeks ago, Memphis this week. I am led to believe that there is actully a Helicopter in the box

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10-18-2010 08:10 AM  8 years agoPost 31
Rotohead sa

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Ok. First things first. BIG THANX to G Styn for once again helping me out with final setup on my heli. This guy is truly a legend,and his pation for perfection and helis,is something to strive to. Thank you G for all your help yesterday,it made a world of diferance,and I realy appritiate it allot. Ok,and now.. All I can say is WOW! This heli is something els.Ive never felt anything like it,and only got to hover it before the sun went down,bt still,one can already feel that you are in controll of something greate. Wil post final setup a bit later. Thanx to all for the advice so far.

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10-18-2010 08:15 AM  8 years agoPost 32
GootyS

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Hmmmm is this why G ran off so quickly yesterday from the comp? Glad to hear you enjoying it ;-)

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10-18-2010 09:11 AM  8 years agoPost 33
Rotohead sa

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HEHEHE LOL maby...
I was also there but only saw the 1st round, was dam cold and had to go get the heli ready. Some nice flying by some pilots, and cant wait for Feb 2011 then Im no spectator anymore but lined up in class 1. Realy looking farward to it.

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10-18-2010 09:25 AM  8 years agoPost 34
GootyS

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I dont want to start in class 1 my flying is a bit beyond that but if the rules are that..then i have no choice. I wanted to jump right into F3C class. Will read up on the rules and see

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10-18-2010 09:34 AM  8 years agoPost 35
Rotohead sa

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I hear you, but this is my first atemt to any thing F3C so I will start at class 1,and only if I win or plase top 2 will I jumo to the next class. This way for me will work nice because one will get more used to competion flying and get more experiance in my oppinion. But thats wat I think is going to work for me so will takeit slow.

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10-18-2010 12:21 PM  8 years agoPost 36
G Steyn

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Ahhh, so we have TWO new class 1 entries for Feb 2011. GREAT!!!

I'll be there in as well. As an entry this time round.

Concentrate on your weaknesses and your strengths will reward you!

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10-18-2010 12:33 PM  8 years agoPost 37
GootyS

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I will go insane if i have to do class 1, there must be away around it.??

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10-18-2010 04:37 PM  8 years agoPost 38
payne1967

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the way around it is to totaly out fly the others in class 1 in the first round so that they upgrade the class you fly in
simples

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10-21-2010 09:06 PM  8 years agoPost 39
Rotohead sa

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Okay so this is were we are for now for initial setup.
We managed to move some links arround, and did some adjusting, and managed to get +13 -12 collective pitch, and daild in + - 6 on cyclic.
All those where setup machanicly first at centre stick and everything 90'.
Then we went to radio setup.
We daild in +10-6 in Hover mode, and midstick pitch at +4' at 1500rpm rotor speed with 50% exp on Ail and Elv.
In St1 we set +10-10 collective with no Dr or Exp for now at 2000rpm.
In Thr hold we set +13-6.
This is just a baseline setup for now, just to see how she feels and to make sure all is correct befor going into more fine tuning.
I'm going to experiment with different pitch curves and atv's and dr and exp's to set the heli up to my feel.
Also as I hear the ssz3 head is great, but a handfull in the wind, with tendancys to "jump" and so on, so I think pich curves with good exp will help it a little. Have experimented with different pitch curves on the sim so far, I know I know its not the same, but will more or less have the same effect...?
But I know I have to get out to the field to do some actual real live testing.
Also interested to see what the roll rate is on the heli and how it performs.
Will keep you updated as the testing continue.
Feel free to jump in guys with suggestions and ideas.
Thanx

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10-22-2010 01:08 AM  8 years agoPost 40
Dr.Ben

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The nonlinear collective axis reaction to gusty winds is the single greatest downside of the III series heads that was markedly improved with the SSZ-IV/V heads. About the best you can do is to run a fairly narrow flat spot on your pitch curve for precise hovering inputs that transitions to steeper portions below and above for added authority if you get hit by a gust. It's workable. The III head is much better than the II series heads and any of the SSR series heads predating the VIII.

Ben Minor

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