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10-13-2010 04:46 PM  8 years agoPost 1
NOLONGERFLYING

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Ok this sucks, but I am having futaba woes with the V-BAR unit 5.0 not mini v-bar. Esentially I am really confused to say the least and rather eat my pride and ask vs. trying every combination i know of and going crazy!! Anyways here is what I have. I need to know where to plug what and what servos to reverse etc.... Ya i know a huge question.

Futaba 14mz radio with Faast receiver
JR 8717's servos obv tail is 8900g in my case

Ch 1. aileron
ch 2. elevator
ch 3. pitch
ch 4. rud
ch 5. gyro
ch 6. throttle

ch 6 is a no brainer imo...anyways my prob is ch 1,2 and 3 and how they map to the V-BAR do I use 120 CCPM setup on the radio or do i use H-1 and do something else? A wiring diagram would be great, but haven't found one yet that is accurate.

Basically I want to know where to plug in channels 1,2,3 into the respective aileron,elevator and collective on the v-bar along with which channels on the vbars goto which servos in my case a TDR rigid. So channel mapping and what mode do I use on my radio? I know the vbar software does some, but not near as simple as all the videos you see with spectrum. Much appreciated for whom responds. I will also post this in the Flybarless section. Thanks in advance!

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10-13-2010 05:04 PM  8 years agoPost 2
Ronald Thomas

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When you connect to the VBAR program it will tell you where the servos go into the unit. As far as connection from the rx to the VBAR, the manual has that laid out and it is available online...........Ron

***It has been a while since I had a rx to a VBAR setup so I cannot remember off the top of my head *****

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10-13-2010 05:07 PM  8 years agoPost 3
Ronald Thomas

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Also one servo selection is what you use in the radio MrMel's videos have a lot of good info in them as well.

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10-13-2010 05:07 PM  8 years agoPost 4
NOLONGERFLYING

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well i wish it was the simple or maybe i am just that dumb but im all confused with the wiring... the program shows the channels and reverses and such, but i still know im doing something wrong goes my swash is moving everyway but the right way.

Watched his videos, but imo futaba is a whole different beast.. they have had so many diff channel mappings etc, i am just plain out confused now.

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10-13-2010 05:10 PM  8 years agoPost 5
Ronald Thomas

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http://www.heliguy.com/i/Anleitung-NEU-English3.pdf

Scroll down to page 14 and it will give you the rx locations. Then when you connect to the VBAR program it will tell you where to put the servos. BTW are you using version 4 or 5???

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10-13-2010 05:11 PM  8 years agoPost 6
NOLONGERFLYING

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I guess with enough trial and error ill find out eventually was just hoping someone had a vbar with faast...Sure someone does, just don't see to much of any posts regarding it. Googled and all and only found one article which still kinda confused me

http://www.vstabi.info/forum/read.php?19,29036

fairly accurate although it is a logo vs a tdr. anyways.

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10-13-2010 05:12 PM  8 years agoPost 7
NOLONGERFLYING

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Verion 5. Suppose to be EASY but i swear i am about to go SBUS on everything this is pissing me off that badly.

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10-13-2010 05:12 PM  8 years agoPost 8
Ronald Thomas

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Machine type does not matter as much as what the swash layout is. If it is 120 degree CCPM with the elevator servo in the rear, then it will be just like a Logo.

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10-13-2010 05:15 PM  8 years agoPost 9
NOLONGERFLYING

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yes that is true...it is elevator or what i call it in the rear... That is basically what i am looking for but his channels are once again mapped different on the damn futuaba then mine. I can remap them, but 1,2,3 is default for ail,elev,pitch with faast i believe these days.

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10-13-2010 05:17 PM  8 years agoPost 10
Ronald Thomas

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Ok so the problem exists on what the rx says....As in it does not say ail, elev, pitch....it says 1, 2, 3 and such?

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10-13-2010 05:18 PM  8 years agoPost 11
NOLONGERFLYING

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I guess I use that diagram and just change what it says for 6 with my channel 3 and go from there. The only question is do I use HR-3 or whatever the 120 ccpm is then, i would assume so? Anyways thanks for the help time to take an aspirin and a nap and go at it later

Transmitter:

chan 1 ail
2 ele
3 pitch

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10-13-2010 05:22 PM  8 years agoPost 12
Ronald Thomas

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In the radio, you select one servo for the swash. The 120 stuff is done in the VBAR program. You will never get it right until you switch that first. Since the tx tells you what the channel assignments are, use that as a guideline to wire the rx to the VBAR module.

chan 1 ail- to Ail on VBAR
2 ele- to elev on VBAR
3 pitch- to pitch on VBAR
Follow the setup wizard and all is good. You do know there is one VERY simple solution to this right

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10-13-2010 05:38 PM  8 years agoPost 13
jbiter

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Use H-1 swash setting in transmitter. Then follow the advice above.

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10-13-2010 06:08 PM  8 years agoPost 14
NOLONGERFLYING

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jbiter.... Yep that was the issue was H-1.. Actually another member here on RR gave me his # and we walked through the whole thing in about 10 mins. How simple when someone has set one up before and has used futaba and v-bar equipment. Got it resolved. Thanks all and especially the one that helped on the phone! If anyone now is having the same issue I can "push it forward" and help others in return with vbar/faast.

Obviously how you use subtrim and end points and h-1 in the radio thru me for a loop and letting the whole v-bar do the rest after that is quite different to me. Learned quite a bit in a very short time

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