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10-13-2010 12:16 AM  8 years agoPost 1
Dr.Phil

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I am building a Rave ENV, and I have to say that this heli looks good

But what I am wondering is what fbl system I should choose. I am currently using Vbar 5 on my Trex 700 and love it.
But I am thinking about the Total G. But from I have read on several forums it seems that there still is issues with this unit.
I fly pretty hard 3D and don't want to struggle with wobbling, uneven piro speeds etc..

Any comments?
Thanks


Philip
Rave ENV, Stratus BW,Trex700 V-bar,Furion450
www.airheads.no,Team Hobby24

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10-14-2010 01:59 AM  8 years agoPost 2
Supercoolheli

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I can't really speak from experience with FBL systems, but based on the track record Curtis has for customer service and satisfaction, i wouldn't hesitate for a second in using his products! I have a Total-G sitting on the shelf along with my other electronics waiting for my ENV kit to come back in stock . Can't wait to use the Total-G

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10-14-2010 10:37 AM  8 years agoPost 3
3dallthewaydown

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Radix super stubz

Trex 700N, RaveENV N FBL

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10-14-2010 01:44 PM  8 years agoPost 4
puma1824

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Are you moving equipment from the Trex 700 to the ENV? If so, since you have the Vbar, try it first. Maybe you can get a pull on someone else's ENV with a Total-G to compare. If not, it's definitely a tough call. I've flown both in the same day and both systems have their pros and cons.

Setting up a Vbar on an ENV is SLIGHTLY more involved in regards to the mechanical setup (see my build thread). The Total-G & ENV setup can be done following the instructions with no mechanical tweaking.

I decided to stick with the VBar because I know it. I didn't want to learn a new system at the end of the flying season. I have to admit I was waiting for and interested in the Total-G but after flying it, it wasn't enough difference or jaw dropping performance increase to warrant investing both money and time in another system. Believe it or not TIME, or lack there of, was a deal breaker for me. I knew, at least the Total-G I flew, wasn't the way "I" would like it to fly and it would required additional tweaking to get it setup the way I wanted it.

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10-27-2010 09:12 AM  8 years agoPost 5
polizonteoscar

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flybarless
v bar o total g are the best options ,never beastx please

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10-27-2010 11:49 AM  8 years agoPost 6
helinewby

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why not?
loving my BeastX

thanks C.B.

Team TSA Models, Team YS, Team Spin Blades..

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10-28-2010 09:10 PM  8 years agoPost 7
invrtd

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take a look at the micro beast. Made in Germany so you know it isn't a piece of crap.

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10-28-2010 09:21 PM  8 years agoPost 8
polizonteoscar

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why not?

loving my BeastX

thanks C.B.

burn the servos

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10-29-2010 01:36 PM  8 years agoPost 9
Kennethk

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why not?

loving my BeastX

thanks C.B.

burn the servos

I have been using the beastx about a year now on 700E(align servos) and now on the rave env(futaba bls451) and i have never had any problems with it
In my club there is about 10 beastx and not one burnt servo.

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10-29-2010 06:56 PM  8 years agoPost 10
polizonteoscar

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good lock in the future with fre frequency

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11-02-2010 09:51 PM  8 years agoPost 11
TTASL

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Total G for me, i haven't flone a Beast X but i want too. but as it stands in my opinion its Mikado Vs. Curtis Youngblood. Youngblood is making alot of progress on the total G testing practically every day. i have no idea whats going on with the Vbar. too everyone that does not know Curtis has a blog on allmyrc check it out he talks alot about testing of the total G http://www.allmyrc.com/forums/blogs/helivig/

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11-04-2010 01:11 PM  8 years agoPost 12
leadlag

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I have flown Vbar v5 and BeastX

I own a ENV nitro flybarless and I am running micro beast with bls451 on 8 volts.

If you are going to run Mikado/Beastx you need to buy the quick uk shorter balls for the swash and use the inner holes on the bellcranks to get the amount of throw down. Its simple so please don't let you put you off.

Out of the Mikado and Beastx the Beast flies the best and is the easiest to set up. This is not just my view but also a ex Mikado user at my field.

The Total G still is not right. I am sure Curtis and co will get there but how long this will take no one will know. Any new system on the market need tweeks.

I would advise buying the beastx with decent servos and flybarless blades and go and enjoy.

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11-06-2010 11:31 PM  8 years agoPost 13
yannick

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South Korea

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hi Dr Phil,

Not sure all these answer will be of some help as everybody has made his own opinion, different from the others...

I run Vbar 5 on all sort of machines now (logo 400, 500 and Eaurora) and I will run Vbar 5 also on my Nitro ENV BFL (underway in the post at the moment).

I am sure some other system are as good or even maybe better, but now that I start to know the Vbar pretty well, I can analyse the reactions and fine tune straight away to get what I want.

The setting of Vbar 5 is also very easy.

I think it just depends on you, if you want to go into the learning curve or another system or not. I do not believe that the result difference will be night and day anyway

Yannick.

Is it me or this time the ground was higher than last time??

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11-07-2010 10:03 AM  8 years agoPost 14
leadlag

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I have flown the latest v5

Mikado have solved alot of the problems they had on the system and it is a good system

Back to back comparison with the Beastx was quite revealing. So much so that 2 Mikado users decided to sell their updated units and buy Beastx which is a cheaper unit and enabled them to get rid of their laptop. The Beastx stability and tail performance is inspiring. The feel of the unit makes you feel connected with the heli.

I now have everything dialled in on my Rave and it is a fantastic machine. The gear ratio Curtis has chosen is perfect and the Beastx just works so well.

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02-11-2011 04:28 PM  7 years agoPost 15
leadlag

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Quick Uk Ball to use are-

Part No QUK-HP01

I also advise you buy the Quick UK links Rocket and drill them out with a 2.5mm drill bit to fit the NextD links.

Cheers

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02-11-2011 06:52 PM  7 years agoPost 16
Efrog

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Colorful Colorado

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BeastX rocks! Have one on my Raptor X50 and one on my Raptor 50v2. Read what people say, you install it set it up and it just works, no hassles it works. One of the best products I have ever encountered in this hobby.

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02-11-2011 08:18 PM  7 years agoPost 17
darren f

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I am using vbar on my nitro env and it was simple to set up and it flys brilliant,very locked in and very responsive.

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02-12-2011 07:09 AM  7 years agoPost 18
Buzzin Brian

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College Station, Texas

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There is no need to use aftermarket ball links with the ENV. The stock links work great.

Brian

Build it, fly it, crash it. Repeat as often as needed.

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02-12-2011 09:34 AM  7 years agoPost 19
leadlag

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I agree Brian. Cant fault the standard links.But-

If you use the shorter Quick UK Balls to drop the throw for BeastX and Vbar I would advise you use the Quick UK Links that go to the swashplate ( where you have the QUK shorter balls) and use Next D links on the ends that attach to the grips.

Cheers

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02-12-2011 12:38 PM  7 years agoPost 20
Martyn Harris

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Cornwall, UK

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TotalG is awesome with the new firmware

Martyn

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