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10-12-2010 09:09 PM  8 years agoPost 1
1drummer

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I am wanting to find a good power supply to charge my 6S 5000 batteries two at a time with the Hyperion Duo charger. I know the experts here can guide me in the right direction to a particular power supply that will do the job and where I can find it.

Thanks for your help.

Richard

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10-12-2010 10:04 PM  8 years agoPost 2
TJinGuy

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Look for a 24V 400W+ power supply. The IOTA DLS-27-25 would work well but it is a little bit expensive. There are some 350W-400W units on eBay for less than $50 but they are not always the best quality. Honestly there are a ton of options out there. Just remember that the larger you go, the less the stress will be on it as you charge your big packs.

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10-12-2010 10:07 PM  8 years agoPost 3
Steff Giguere

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With the Iota 55A charger you can charge both at once at 2C no problem.

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10-12-2010 10:33 PM  8 years agoPost 4
TJinGuy

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Actually no on 2 fronts. First the charger needs 14.5V to get full output and secondly the charger is limited to about 1.5C on those packs.

- Chris

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10-12-2010 10:54 PM  8 years agoPost 5
TrevJonez

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i have 2 duo v3 chargers to help keep my 2 12s heli's in the air.

im using a protek 40 on each of them from Amainhobby's and the setup works well but i do wish i could charge them faster. does ok on my 600 packs but the 5000mah 12s still takes 45 min to charge.

im running the 13.5v and getting full output from the chargers

Who cares... its just money...

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10-13-2010 08:17 AM  8 years agoPost 6
philip 01

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the feather merchant 42 amp 12 volt power supply will allow you to charge 2 6s 5000 packs at the same time at 2c in 30-40 minutes.

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10-13-2010 01:35 PM  8 years agoPost 7
1drummer

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Thanks guys,

O.K., I'm a little confused about the power supply. I thought this would be a 110 to 12 volt power supply to hook the Duo to and charge the batteries at home or any 110 available source?

If we are talking about field charging (which would also be great) and you are talking about 24 volts, then, how would you come up with the 24 volts?

Please explain your setup, so I may get it right and thanks for your valuable help.

Richard

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10-13-2010 03:16 PM  8 years agoPost 8
rocket_33

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12 Volt output on power supply would require huge amps to be able to do what you want....also it isn't as efficient as a higher voltage when you are charging high cell count (4S and above) battery. The ideal is the voltage input to the charger should be as close to the voltage of the packs (in this case 6S is appx 24 volts thus the 24 volt DC input to the charger).

Also it is a matter of watts (V*A) so the Duo output is about 380 watts per channel (760 total). This would mean if you used a 12 volt power supply you would need about a 66 amp (say 70) power supply. It and the charger would get hot doing the step up to the higher voltage.

If you had a 24 vdc power supply then your would only need a 31 amp power supply appx.

You can get power supplies in all varieties of input and output voltage. The power supply that is leading the field of those running 12s helis would be the Meanwell RSP-1000-24 or RSP-1000-27. These have 120 volt input with 24 or 27 volt output and can supply 1000 watts

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10-13-2010 04:11 PM  8 years agoPost 9
TJinGuy

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Ok first the Duo3 is 180W per channel not 360W, that is total for the whole charger.

Second the Duo3 WILL NOT charge a 6s 5000 pack at 2C, period, end of story. Why do people keep saying that?

Next you MUST have 14.5V to get full wattage out of a Duo3. If you use a 12V power supply, it will come up a bit short ... probably about 150W per channel.

Yes matching the input voltage to the output voltage is a good idea. It will make everything as efficient as possible and yes it will halve the current compared to a 12V power supply. All these things are good.

So like I said before, look for a 24V 400W+ power supply.

- Chris

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10-13-2010 04:26 PM  8 years agoPost 10
rocket_33

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Ok my mistake on the output of the Duo

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10-13-2010 04:52 PM  8 years agoPost 11
Flying Tivo

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So like I said before, look for a 24V 400W+ power supply.
24V/400W = 16.6 Amps

Look on Ebay for a 24V/15A power supply, that is what i use to charge my 5S at 7Amp on each channel.

Felipe

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10-13-2010 07:32 PM  8 years agoPost 12
philip 01

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the feather merchant 42 amp 12 volt power supply will allow you to charge 2 6s 5000 packs at the same time at 2c in 30 minutes give or take a little. this would be after taking the pack down to 20%'ish.

(charger set at 2c, 10 amps in this case, which you can set charger to, charge complete in 30-40 minutes 2 packs)

(615 duo 3)

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10-13-2010 07:41 PM  8 years agoPost 13
1drummer

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Anybody had any experience with the Mean Well SE 450 24??

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10-16-2010 03:57 PM  8 years agoPost 14
rocket_33

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Might want to post that question up as a new topic as it really is a totally different topic and may be missed here

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10-16-2010 07:25 PM  8 years agoPost 15
jsenicka

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Running a 40A 15v unit i picked up here.
The Duo3 peaks out at about 7.7 amps on 6S. Won't go a full 10A for 2c on the 6S 5000 packs.
But it will charge my 6S 3000 40C for my T500.
I have a pair of EOS720i Hyperion chargers for the 5000 packs

Jim Senicka
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10-20-2010 12:38 AM  8 years agoPost 16
livninlv

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jsenicka, how long does it take to charge the 5000kv packs with your 720i and how many amp do they charge them at?

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10-20-2010 12:39 AM  8 years agoPost 17
TrevJonez

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super duo is on its way also it is basically two 720i in one case.

Who cares... its just money...

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10-20-2010 01:38 AM  8 years agoPost 18
steveiewonder

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PS
go here buy two for 10 bucks each plus ship you will get 47
A 575W 12v each and you wire in series and run your duo on 24v 1150w 47a
all for less then 40 bucks!!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/HP-Proliant-DL3...=item19c01ecddf

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10-20-2010 01:46 AM  8 years agoPost 19
steveiewonder

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ps
just changed the ebay address on post above, $19.99 each more then ten of them shipped these are the ones you want pm me I'll send the link on how to wire them......

HERE"S THE LINK TO WIRE POWER SUPPLY'S

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27554

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10-20-2010 03:57 AM  8 years agoPost 20
Jahmer

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ps
stev
Don't you mean serial wire them, not parallel them.

I bought an oversees ebay ps for $70 and after waiting, it was doa. Then I bought a feathermerchant 23v47a for $50. Now I see where he gets them. I could of saved $30. I don't know how I missed that ps on ebay when I did a search. I added a $30 meter that Chris recommended and put in a switch, cord, etc, so the additional cost was $50 more. But going forward, a series wired PS for a total of $40 versus $350 Iotas makes sense to me.

Finding 8 gauge silicon wire is the hardest part of the project. The only place I can find it is at Hobbyking. Frys had 10 but it isn't silicon.

Please pm me the wiring link.

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