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10-13-2010 12:51 AM  8 years agoPost 41
OICU812

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I think so much has to do with how a beginner approaches this hobby. Few of us me included took un necessary risks if the new guy really focuses on doing the learning steps they can own what they like. I've learned yes we all crash but with the right attitude we crash far less I've seen noobies go over a year with no crashes just advancing slowly but properly it is possible!

But yes what your locals have or support group and your wallet should always be your guide for sure.

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10-13-2010 01:01 AM  8 years agoPost 42
Eagle2bravo

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I think 600's are way easier to learn on than 450's. One thing to keep in mind is the cost of good blades... it's rare they survive a crash. If you have the cash then go for the 600e..

T-rex 600n super pro , Trex 450 se, Gaui 200, Trex 500, Blade cx, . "If ya plant corn, ya get c

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10-13-2010 01:42 AM  8 years agoPost 43
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FenwayRick: I have never owned or flown a Mikado heli...
Nuff said.

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10-13-2010 02:33 AM  8 years agoPost 44
Santiago P

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Wow, the thread spun off a bit to what I wish it did not, but Im still reading good info. (open forums, yeeah)

Please do not give any consideration to the new owner being a beginer, is not.

The primary use for the heli will be sport flying, mild aerobatics. maybe later, and thats a maybe, be dress up with a Huey Cobra fuselage. Time will tell.

6S vs 8S vs 10S
The heli is not intended for 3D. With that in mind, what would be the benefit of the higher voltage besides "power on tab" ?

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10-13-2010 02:37 AM  8 years agoPost 45
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With all due respect, all of this information can be found in the forums with a simple search (read: effort).

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10-13-2010 03:03 AM  8 years agoPost 46
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higher voltage= less amp draw, which means more run time.Its also easier on the batts,and you can get good performance from lower C rated batts

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10-13-2010 03:10 AM  8 years agoPost 47
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[quote]With all due respect, all of this information can be found in the forums with a simple search (read: effort).

Yup your right, but you wouldn't get the chance to post stupid comments instead of trying to help a newbie out. You should give yourself a pat on the back...really go ahead

Nuff said

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10-13-2010 03:23 AM  8 years agoPost 48
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Not everyone is a Millennial. Sometimes the easy task of searching, just isn't that easy for some people. The only stupid question is the one left unasked.

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10-13-2010 03:23 AM  8 years agoPost 49
dkshema

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The 6S Trex 600e pretty much fills the bill for your stated goals...
The primary use for the heli will be sport flying, mild aerobatics. maybe later, and thats a maybe, be dress up with a Huey Cobra fuselage. Time will tell.
It's rugged, reliable, inexpensive to operate. At 6S it's no barn burner, but there's one flying here, it's fairly capable of more than just "mild" aerobatics. Quite capable, as a matter of fact. The one I've seen here has a couple of upgrades -- a Scorpion motor and an ICE 100 ESC. But on 6S, it will keep you interested in flying.

A step up dollar-wise would be the MinAir Furion 6. A big step-up dollar-wise would be a Logo 600.

I haven't seen a Furion 6 fly, and I'm not certain just how good it would be with a 6S setup -- although there IS a suggested 6S setup for it on the MinAir site. Maybe someday I'll have to see if I can fit one of these into the fold -- or one will show up at our field soon.

The Logo 600 I've seen fly (and flown) was a monster at 10S. But you're not looking for a monster. On 6S, it might just sit there and be pretty anemic.

Your future goals -- perhaps adding a scale fuselage -- well there are plenty of them available to fit the 600E, other kits may require some ingenuity and work to get them to fit in a fuse built for the 600E. That may or may not be a consideration. If you end up putting a fuse on that 600, you can easily upgrade the motor/esc/pinion to run 8S simply to carry the extra load. The airframe remains the same.

As for talk that a beginner shouldn't learn on a 600-sized heli -- that's just plain idiocy speaking. There are a lot of us who learned to fly on 60-powered, "full sized" helis BEFORE the electric 450 class was ever even dreamed of being a reality. Many 30-sized nitro helis of the day were not much different from the current crop of 600 electrics when it came to size of the heli and size of the blades.

A CF blade thrown from a 450 heli spinning at 4000 RPM is just as dangerous as a CF blade thrown from a 600 class heli turning at 2000 RPM.

Back to your question. The Trex 600e is on top of your list, there really aren't many other choices that would perform relatively well on 6S (unless you consider a Trex 550E or perhaps a Gaui Hurricane 550 -- a bit smaller than a 600, though).

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10-13-2010 03:26 AM  8 years agoPost 50
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or a Logo 500

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10-13-2010 03:38 AM  8 years agoPost 51
Santiago P

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Dave

Great summary! thanks

misfits0311

Just curious, What size blades does the Logo 500 swings?

fenderstrat

thanks for explaining the plusses of higher voltage besides power.

FenwayRick

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10-13-2010 03:41 AM  8 years agoPost 52
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most people run 550s on 6S. It screams. My buddy has one setup real nice and its not that much smaller than a 600. The SE tail boom is longer and gives a bigger presence in the air.

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10-13-2010 03:59 AM  8 years agoPost 53
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most people run 550s on 6S. It screams. My buddy has one setup real nice and its not that much smaller than a 600. The SE tail boom is longer and gives a bigger presence in the air.
Makes me want to get a 500 for myself.

One thing that resonates if the suitability and practicality ($) of the TRex. I am a self proclaimed Align hater, but would no longer deny advising one to try the heli. I myself would still not own one, but we all have diferent preferences, many that I have learned to respect.

I think I got enough info out of this thread, and will go now to the specific brand forums for specific questions, but I'll leave the thread open.

Cheers to all

Santiago

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10-15-2010 07:22 PM  8 years agoPost 54
bhoff

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trex 600e!!!!

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10-15-2010 07:39 PM  8 years agoPost 55
Santiago P

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10by20woodbox600!!!!

Why?

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10-15-2010 07:54 PM  8 years agoPost 56
Ronald Thomas

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My New Addition!!!
Makes me want to get a 500 for myself.
I just added this beauty to the Logo 600 VBAR

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10-15-2010 09:39 PM  8 years agoPost 57
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The primary use for the heli will be sport flying, mild aerobatics. maybe later, and thats a maybe, be dress up with a Huey Cobra fuselage. Time will tell.
Well im not a electric fan and love my nitros but have owned a stock Trex 600E.For my flying style (3D) the stock 6 cell setup wasn't enough but from what you said above,a stock 6 cell Trex 600E would be more than enough for what your looking for.Parts are cheap and come 2 in a pack so its easy on your pocket.Heres a video of mine.
BTW,
I don't own a electric anymore and don't plan on it so im not one of them buy what I have because thats what I have and like guys.Just being honest because its more than what your asking for,reliable,easy to work on and cheap on the wallet .

Watch at YouTube

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10-15-2010 11:15 PM  8 years agoPost 58
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+1 LonR
I fly two Pod and Boom 600s one on 6S and one that I setup for 12S FBL.
I do mostly sport flying with a little mild 3D (somethings got to keep me buying parts).
So far everything I can do with the 12s I can do with the 6s. I just have to use a little more finess with the 6S. If I get sloppy with the pitch on the 6S I will bog the head. On the 12S that just doesnt happen.

You had me at Hover

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10-16-2010 12:19 AM  8 years agoPost 59
fenderstrat

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sorry to go off topic but ea01bg.what is the difference in flight times and battery/ motor temps on those 2 helis?

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10-16-2010 02:59 PM  8 years agoPost 60
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Larger heli's are easier to fly and more expensive to repair. Sometimes, as it depends on what you have. I would recommend a good 30size heli with training gear, and a good mentor to help with the setup, and then the buddy box. You can pickup some fantastic deals on ebay in the KYOSHO line. Parts are cheap and easy to find if you know where. You can find the entire heli with radio for less than $300,and no it might not have all the GeeWiz Radio, and electronics, but it will fly very well indeed.With a properly setup 30 nitro (up to 30min flight times) you should be able to go out on Saturday morning and if you have a fast field charger, you could possibly be hovering by the evening. You do need to use a good training gear to prevent tip overs, and it lowers the center of gravity making it more stable. If you want to spend, or in my opinion waste more money, get a sim, and stay in the house. If you want to learn to fly heli's then you need to be flying not playing. If you push yourself,you will crash. You need to relax and not get anxious to do lots of manuevers at first. Learn to hover in all positions first. Then fly simple circuits until very comfortable.
Sorry I got a little carried away with his post, but I'm only trying to point out a less expensive alternative to a 600 E Heli. Even in spite of all the starting accessories and the fuel the 30 nitro is still cheaper and very easy to fly and not so intimidating.

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