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10-12-2010 10:27 PM  8 years agoPost 21
Santiago P

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Good stuff written.

I know the quality of Min Aircraft, owned a few.

and the availability and afford$$bility of the TRex,

but always questioned TRex durability which I presumed has improved as time has gone by. Right?

I did not knew that Mikado had only ONE place in US for parts distribution.

Are Mikado Parts readily accessible?

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10-12-2010 10:29 PM  8 years agoPost 22
RCSavager

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I did not knew that Mikado had only ONE place in US for parts distribution.

Are Mikado Parts readily accessible?
http://www.readyheli.com One of, if not THE, best online hobby shop in the business. Availability is not up to them but up to the manufacturer so folks have to make their own determination on that point. The goal is not to crash it in the first place.

Once you try steak, is hard to go back to hotdogs.

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10-12-2010 10:30 PM  8 years agoPost 23
fenderstrat

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Compass is a hobby shop looking for it's next US distributor"
can you explain this a little more?

Compass parts are available from several places in the US,there are NO issues getting parts.

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10-12-2010 10:33 PM  8 years agoPost 24
RCSavager

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Apparently you didn't own your bird this time last year. Or about the same time the year before. I wonder who will be the US distributor in 2011. /shrug

Research the history of Compass. Not hard since it's well documented on nearly every heli site out there. You can start here... Now they are on what, 4th+ US distributor? http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1012171

Better yet, ask their previous US distributors why they're not the Compass distributor anymore. I'd love a paste of that response.

So would I recommend a Compass heli to anyone? Hell no!
For more reasons than I've listed above.

Once you try steak, is hard to go back to hotdogs.

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10-12-2010 10:41 PM  8 years agoPost 25
fenderstrat

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I have been with Compass for almost 3 years.actually there have only been 2 distributors in this time.But fast forward to today and the current set up seems to be working fine..no middle man better prices

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10-12-2010 10:45 PM  8 years agoPost 26
RCSavager

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Good luck with all that...

Now back to your regularly scheduled program.

Once you try steak, is hard to go back to hotdogs.

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10-12-2010 10:45 PM  8 years agoPost 27
fenderstrat

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So would I recommend a Compass heli to anyone? Hell no!
and your reason is that 1-2 years ago they had a disagreement with a distributor.HHHMM,definately dont consider the quality of the kits/parts or the way they fly.Thats my way to judge a heli,second hand info from over a year ago

everyone is entitled to their view ,so I'm out on this one as I cant really comment too much anyway..peace out

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10-12-2010 10:52 PM  8 years agoPost 28
RCSavager

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If I faced this much flack I'd back out too...

http://www.helifreak.com/showthread...=common+compass
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread...=common+compass
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread...=common+compass
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread...=common+compass
http://www.commonsenserc.com/page.php?page=compass.html
http://www.rcHeli Resource.com/comm...pass-inventory/
https://rc.runryder.com/t556368p1/

Quote from CommonSenseRC: We regret the inconvenience this may cause, but factors beyond our control have led CSRC to be added to the long list of failed Compass attempts at distribution.

Once you try steak, is hard to go back to hotdogs.

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10-12-2010 10:59 PM  8 years agoPost 29
doorman

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What Heli!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????
This is turning into Chevy vs Ford....
The question was pretty simple, tell me about what you have owned....
But I think the biggest consideration here has been mentioned... this new pilot is going to have help building and setting up, along with all the other support that is given to a newbie FIRST HAND....
With that factored in, get whatever 600 you want.....what are the local guys flying.... there is where you will get you most help... even if your "mentor" isn't at the field one day... there is still help....
Also, take a look a the person... can he walk upright and chew gum at the same time.... if so, a 600 should be fine!!!!!!!
The 450's have there place and a LOT have learned on them, but as also mentioned, a LOT learned on larger machines before the 450's were even thought of.... and I think it is up to the student to really have the final choice as to what he would like, and what he can afford.....
I also agree that you can pick up Align parts just about anywhere, and for a new pilot, that can be a big plus too.... BUT he can purchase just about any heli out there and also buy up some parts to have as spares for crash kits!!!! Nobody says you need to run to the hobby shop or go on line everytime you smack one of these... with that in mind, you can have your Align,Hirobo MA,Compass, Mikado, Vario, Schluter, or whatever machine back in the air while the replacement parts are on the way...(I have or do own now each one of these!!!!:rolleyes
So, with all that said.... which one does the student want.... very few helis out there now are of poor quality.... and the parts on most are not an issue.... pick one and go have fun.....

Stan

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10-12-2010 11:27 PM  8 years agoPost 30
hornet dave

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just don't get a 6S 600; they are much happier at 10S or 12S.

I got a fever! The only prescription is MORE 6HV

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10-12-2010 11:42 PM  8 years agoPost 31
drdot

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fwiw...

My two cents based on quite a bit of experience....
IF the beginner has a mentor, and someone to buddy box him /her, the 450 would be fine....If the subject is 12 years old, with commensurate reflexes, a sim and a 450 would be fine....All others....A raptor 30 nitro, hands down...Easy to set up, very rugged, and with the heavy paddles stable enough for learning....Easy to convert to a 50 when more pop is wanted...
To the original intent of this post...600 electric is not the ideal machine...expensive, not much flight time, and dangerous if you've not spent much time with electrics...

No...I don't fly Raptors...Just know the bird well.....

John.

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10-12-2010 11:53 PM  8 years agoPost 32
Al Austria

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Best trainer for a beginner? I would have to say a 30 size nitro.

Long flight times, really, the most amount of flight time you'll get for the money(not counting flying gasoline/petrol). The amount of power a 30 size nitro has is enough to perform pretty much any type of aerobatic maneuver, albiet slower. That said, you will actually learn how to FLY your heli through a maneuver vs. just powering through it. A 600 class, 10S powered electric will not teach you REAL collective management.

I've seen a number of pilots learn on high powered, 600 class electrics who haven't a clue as to what collective management is. Some of which are so intimidated by their machines that they haven't even learned their basic orientations yet, like nose-in.

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10-12-2010 11:55 PM  8 years agoPost 33
OICU812

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No need to argue best 600 class electric heli is still Logo 600 done deal.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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10-12-2010 11:56 PM  8 years agoPost 34
RCSavager

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+1

Once you try steak, is hard to go back to hotdogs.

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10-12-2010 11:59 PM  8 years agoPost 35
Flying Brian

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Furion 6

"I just don't Listen" "

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10-13-2010 12:07 AM  8 years agoPost 36
misfits0311

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Hey, I own a Logo 600. Where's my Ferrari? My Kia only has 125 hp and smells like top ramen.

╘ₒ₲ₒ 6°° ƺƉ ṾЪ∂®

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10-13-2010 12:13 AM  8 years agoPost 37
basmntdweller

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If you really want a good heli to fly on 6S, the 550 class is much better suited. Nearly every thread on here for 600's end up being 10 or 12s setups. I am flying a Trex 550 3G but for a beginner, I'd happily recommend the 550E flybar version. I think everything is in the box except the Lipo and TX. They fly very well on 6S and taming down the headspeed should provide 8+ minutes of flight time. Parts are fairly cheap and the most expensive parts already have second sources for them so that makes it even cheaper. Quality is not on par with MA but the 550 is a great value for the money.
I have built and flown the Trex 600E, the 550E, the MA Furion 6 (really needs 10S for 3D) and several nitro MA's and Trex's.
I know you said 600 but the 550 is best of the bunch as long as you stay 6S.

Matt


Stupid people have no idea how stupid they are!!!

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10-13-2010 12:32 AM  8 years agoPost 38
kirk

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IMHO - If you buddy is new to this than a 6S TREX 600 is more than enough. It has more than enough power to do anything that MOST pilots will ever be able to do. Up here in CO the 6S 600 has more power than the 50 size nitro. The 600ESP is inexpensive, easy to build, flys nice, its easy to get parts for it, and its a easy to rebuild. If a buddy getting into this asked me what 600 to get the 600ESP would be my suggestion...

Now if he was a seasoned pilot who needed all of the power in the world and wanted a 600. The Logo 600, HV Furion or HV 600ESP would be my recomendation (probably in that order)...

Kirk

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10-13-2010 12:40 AM  8 years agoPost 39
Steff Giguere

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I think Mikado helis ARE all that. After flying one I sold all my Align helis and now only fly Logos. Therefore I say go for a Logo.

Team Synergy, Rail blades, Team Scorpion, V-Team

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10-13-2010 12:46 AM  8 years agoPost 40
FenwayRick

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I have never owned or flown a Mikado heli, however I have heard and seen too many people break frames in the event of a half a$$ attempt of a wreak. I am not saying they are inferior just not a good heli for a beginner imo

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