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10-12-2010 04:43 PM  8 years agoPost 1
Rob43

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When I attended IRCHA this past summer, I witnessed the incredible power delivery of the 700 class electric helis. You could feel the blade bark, beyond simply hearing it. The whole idea of a Logo 700 I know really lights a fire here, but frankly, I still find it a touch scary. Already, blade manufacturers are telling us the speed limits of their blades. Some models already sound like they are ready to explode. Aren't there some limitations that are contraints that the heli makers aren't in control of fixing? There is so much stored energy in a 2300 rpm 600mm disk already, let alone crazy head speed disks of larger diameter. Am I wrong here?

Rob

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10-12-2010 04:58 PM  8 years agoPost 2
Qrrambero

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You know is a men thing, more power = Better. You don't like your 4 cylinder Chevy Vega and need to go to 6 cylinder, later V8 and if you have the money why not a Lamborghini V12
It is the same deal with helicopters, the problem is that manufacturers will figure it out and make adjustment after few complaints and accidents (Luckily no one dies)
When the Nitros jumped from 60 to 90s. I saw lots of bend spindles and shaft, stripped gears, the servos did have the torque to handle the power and changes were make by the manufacturers.

Ae

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10-12-2010 11:50 PM  8 years agoPost 3
OICU812

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Difference is and I truly believe this will be far different then any other 90 electric out there. The powertrain and heli in general will be specifically designed to take it. I for one can't wait for it, I hope it's scary as hell . I'll be building mine to be as much power as the train will take and setting it up to be as nimble as possible good times!!!

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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10-13-2010 02:46 AM  8 years agoPost 4
Rob43

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Cool enough. I'd love a Logo 600 with 12S power. They are faster than my reactions already...especially with 45-yr-old eyes.

I thought I'd try to build a vBar 600 next season. I swore I built my last nitro - as much fun as I find them - they still hold no candle to the raw power of lipos. It seems to be a very reliable, sufficiently refined model. No new work-out-the-build-bugs-myself here.

Rob

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10-13-2010 03:22 AM  8 years agoPost 5
OICU812

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Rob I'll say it now, I seriously think the 700 is going to tear new orifices into the competition

It's a tough wait, thank goodness we have the 600 to hold back our tears for now, flight after flight it just keeps taking abuse and providing maximum smile factor.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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10-13-2010 06:54 PM  8 years agoPost 6
Rob43

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I don't know if I can afford more than 12S5000. I am willing to sell one of my existing nitros to fund a different EP machine, but if it's too expensive, I'll be hosed. Will also cost an arm, leg, both beans to fit with an ESC (a festering, flaming wound at the moment, relating to my current Castle ICE/BEC Pro).

Rob

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10-13-2010 07:41 PM  8 years agoPost 7
HeliMan Dave

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I understand what Rob's saying and it's true. The L700 is being built to swing 800mm blades. It won't be long and guys will be wanting 3D blades longer than 710's.

Something like that is going to be very intimidating to some people.

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10-13-2010 10:41 PM  8 years agoPost 8
LaurenceGough

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To be honest I'm surprised people are not running larger than 700's just to stand out from the crowd... Guess because no heli can handle it really currently... (without being custom made)

Soon will change hey .

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10-13-2010 10:55 PM  8 years agoPost 9
helicraze

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The thing that scares me is how some people build their models! There are certain individuals who throw things together then wonder why it smashes, they do not have much attention to detail and its a risk when flying.

Flying over 2100RPM on 690 or larger blades is really getting into silly land

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10-14-2010 02:11 AM  8 years agoPost 10
RyanW

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The thing that scares me is how some people build their models! There are certain individuals who throw things together then wonder why it smashes, they do not have much attention to detail and its a risk when flying.

-Ryan
Mikado USA, Kontronik, Opti-Power, MKS Servos

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10-14-2010 02:17 AM  8 years agoPost 11
helicraze

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he he now i'm laughing in front of my keyboard, normally its the things that you don't see. Now i know everyone has a brain fade everynow and again but.....

eg oh you better do they static mod on the logo just in case, meh never had a problem (few flights later bang its smashed from a hit) oh well now i'll ground it (i also resisted but did not smash)

or oh the tail hub needs to be tightened on the flat spot on the shaft? After it just flew off and heli piros into the ground

hey that vbar sensor lead needs to be glued or taped, it can come off, nah its all good, hurricanes on the first flight

I should shutup now, i'm starting to sound old now.

Yay logo 700 (conversation to logo 700 in deep sexy voice like Barry White) "oh i'm gonna fly you so hhhaardddd, oh yeh i'm gonna maintain the S%$t out of you yeh you like that" hahahaha

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10-14-2010 03:01 AM  8 years agoPost 12
Rob43

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helicraze, you are not a well unit

Rob

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10-14-2010 05:34 AM  8 years agoPost 13
HilliHeli

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helicraze, you are not a well unit
All those hopped-up L600's, a few TDR's and news of the L700CF will tend to do this

!Antriebe, die bewegen!
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10-14-2010 05:51 AM  8 years agoPost 14
helicraze

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I have been a good boy recently, my only toys are the 2 TDR, eagerly waiting on the L700.

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10-14-2010 06:15 AM  8 years agoPost 15
Al Austria

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Isn't that Curtis Youngblood's old Vigor?

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10-14-2010 06:29 AM  8 years agoPost 16
RyanW

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Yes it is!

I thought it was fitting for the comment Helicraze made.

-Ryan
Mikado USA, Kontronik, Opti-Power, MKS Servos

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10-14-2010 07:30 PM  8 years agoPost 17
Rob43

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All those hopped-up L600's, a few TDR's and news of the L700CF will tend to do this
Now I'm truly jealous!

I recently downloaded a TDR for my Reflex XTR sim and instantly fell for it. It makes me want one. In fact, it feels evil since the desire is so selfish, so wanting, and so completely self-gratifying...some day, I shall have to have one!

Rob

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10-14-2010 08:36 PM  8 years agoPost 18
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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Will the Logo 700 be able to use 710mm blades?

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10-14-2010 08:59 PM  8 years agoPost 19
Mike Fortin

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That picture that RyanW posted is priceless, that helicopter probably won more championships that any other piloted by Curtis Youngblood.

Definitely not the best example of a poorly assembled helicopter.

Have Rotors, Will Fly!

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10-14-2010 09:14 PM  8 years agoPost 20
SGrim80

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Justin I heard up to 800mm blades on the L700 but that is a rumor.

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