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10-12-2010 09:50 PM  8 years agoPost 21
Rogman88

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So how do you practice these little used orientations like skids in nose down?

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10-12-2010 10:16 PM  8 years agoPost 22
ChuckJrster

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When was this discussed?
Roger,

When was this discussed at our field this past Sunday? If it was, I certainly wasn't part of the discussion because I don't remember it. Let me know who laughed. PM me if you need to. To me, there are many "orientations" to a 3D setup heli as they can fly in nearly any directions either rightside up or upsidedown equally well. It's up to the pilot and his or her skill level flying it...right!? Our "planker" cousins can only fly forward. I would have said that to you this past Sunday. I'm not sure if I could give you an accurate count though. Maybe N! (where N would be the number of static orientations that one could think of the ! is for Factorial of course.)

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10-12-2010 10:42 PM  8 years agoPost 23
AirWolfRC

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I'll say 24

4 ordinal directions right side up
4 ordinal directions up side down
and then two vertical planes
I think in whole number of degrees there are 129,601, because 0deg X 0 degrees equal one more position ?????
well . . . . 0 degrees is the same as 360 degrees

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10-12-2010 10:51 PM  8 years agoPost 24
jones007

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If you're still thinking of the heli as being in different orientations, versus your mind being in the heli and just doing the coordinate transform mentally, you're not going to get as good as you could be. It's a bit like learning a language - if you just translate the words, you will never be very good at the new language (just look at any manual from an overseas product). To become fluent, you have to "think" in the other language.

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10-12-2010 10:56 PM  8 years agoPost 25
blt4ice

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You all are overanalyzing as usual on here.

There are 2 orientations.

1. Flying
2. Crashing

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10-12-2010 10:59 PM  8 years agoPost 26
rc3po

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I say 2
Flying

and not.....

But really, in all our discussions about movements. We do not talk in specific degrees per say but most commonly in 90 degree increments..

I like the 24 answer.... ( 4 up, 4 down, in three planes)

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10-13-2010 12:11 AM  8 years agoPost 27
McKrackin

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Infinite.
There are not 360 positions in a flat circle.

0 degree
0.00000000000000000000000000000000002 degree
0.000000000000000000000000000000000019 degree
0.000000000000000000000000000000000018 degree

Get the point?

I literally never use the word literally right.

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10-13-2010 01:29 AM  8 years agoPost 28
Mojoe

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To learn skids in nose down you could do inverted nose down funnels.

This is definitely an orientation that scrambles my brain.

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10-13-2010 02:09 AM  8 years agoPost 29
bkervaski

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... you have to "think" in the other language ...
"You must think in Russian" - What movie? Anyone?

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10-13-2010 02:17 AM  8 years agoPost 30
ChuckJrster

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My Head Hurts! ;)
You all are overanalyzing as usual on here.

There are 2 orientations.

1. Flying
2. Crashing
blt4ice U R THA MAN!

I love your analysis there!

Also, bkervaski, that movie is "Fire Fox" starring Clint Eastwood. A darn good Cold War movie at that!

And yes, whenever he stole the Russian Fighter Jet, he had to think in Russian to deploy ordinance.

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10-13-2010 02:18 AM  8 years agoPost 31
McKrackin

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"You must think in Russian" - What movie? Anyone?
Firefox.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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10-13-2010 02:20 AM  8 years agoPost 32
McKrackin

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Crap.Chuck beat me.lol...
I was excited that I knew it.
Didn't read any further.lol...

I literally never use the word literally right.

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10-13-2010 03:06 AM  8 years agoPost 33
ChuckJrster

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Ain't No Thang! ;)
Yep, FireFox, good movie...one of Clint Eastwood's best in my book!

L8TR fellas...

Chuck

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10-13-2010 03:22 AM  8 years agoPost 34
Rogman88

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I like to practice my nose down orientations doing nose down tic tocs. I also practice my boom down orientations doing tic tocs as well. Getting the boom to rotate in the right direction when your brain is programed a certain way can be frustrating, but pretty rewarding as well.

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10-13-2010 11:08 AM  8 years agoPost 35
dnsinoz

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I think the real answer is one, it's the rest of the world that moves in relation to the heli

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10-13-2010 12:06 PM  8 years agoPost 36
heli-cuzz

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So how do you practice these little used orientations like skids in nose down?
Just keep flying!!!

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10-13-2010 03:14 PM  8 years agoPost 37
GyroFreak

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I think the real answer is one, it's the rest of the world that moves in relation to the heli
He is right, after all it's all relative.
Why do we northern hemisphere people think the north pole is the top of the world ? What defines up or down in the universe. Why is Australia down under and not up over ?

I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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10-13-2010 03:33 PM  8 years agoPost 38
helixangle

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There are only 8
orientation suggests level and or horizontal flight, that being said and as I understand it:

Forward
Backward
nose in
tail in
the above inverted and you have
8

I could be wrong

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10-13-2010 03:34 PM  8 years agoPost 39
helixangle

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Why is Australia down under and not up over ?
Because it's down under

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10-13-2010 05:17 PM  8 years agoPost 40
Rogman88

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quote]So how do you practice these little used orientations like skids in nose down?
Just keep flying!!!
Well yes and no. Merely flying doesn't orient folks to all the orientations. It's very easy to get into a rut and fly in your comfort zone without ever going into certain orientations, unless of course you become disoriented Then it is too late. Having a strategic plan during sim time to practice those orientations may save some $ later. I know I would have

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