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10-11-2010 05:02 PM  8 years agoPost 1
EmbdenMe Heli

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I’ve been having a blast learning how to fly with my RTF electric heli and this has definitely gotten me hooked on the hobby.
Being a newbie and wanting to learn as fast as possible I went so far as to set “goals” for myself on a spreadsheet (i.e. learn how to hover inverted by such and such a date, etc) . I still look at this sometimes to see where I’m at from my original goals – however since I first started I found that it’s best just to have fun and not get wrapped up in trying to keep up / catch up with where I THINK I should be.
The one item I seriously underestimated was the learning curve on the mechanical / setup portion of the hobby. Replacing broken items typically hasn’t been a big deal – it’s just getting everything set up so it fly’s decent afterwards that seems to be an issue. I think I would actually enjoy this part of the hobby if I had a better idea of what I was doing. I must say that I’m at a disadvantage (as I’m sure a lot of other people are) in currently not having someone available locally that I can get information/guidance from. I did purchase Ray’s DVD series which helped some, and have also gotten a lot of information from the web – but a little hands-on I think would go a long way. I have sent a few e-mails around recently looking for someone that could provide a day or two of hands-on “training” (i.e. tear it down and build it back up).
I’m thinking that, at least in the beginning stages of the hobby, its been 50% time spent learning how to perform basic flight and 50% learning how to work-on/setup the heli. Any others have similar experiences or am I just making it more difficult then it has to be?
Oh yea – one other item I seriously under-estimated was the cost of the beer involved while trying to fix / fine tune something.

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10-11-2010 06:33 PM  8 years agoPost 2
fastflyer20

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Finless Bob also has great how to videos on the other main heli forum....

The more you repair the quicker it gets up to a point. It will get to a point where you can look at a crash and be able to estimate accurately the repair time.

Stick with it, the effort is worth it!

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10-11-2010 06:44 PM  8 years agoPost 3
bmapope

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TN

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SMACK TALK< SMACK TALK!! Bobby and Bert have awesome how to vids available at a very affordable price. Just pick the ones you want when you want. Wish they had done this 3 years ago, but I was lucky enough to have a guy mentor me through the entire process. Learn it, it will make you better all the way around and then you can help the next guy!

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10-11-2010 07:03 PM  8 years agoPost 4
thenewguy

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Just click the link and start reading. http://www.raptortechnique.com/

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10-11-2010 07:29 PM  8 years agoPost 5
Carman9876

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I would also recommend finless bobs videos.

http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=11373

Check out the ccpm setup 1 and 2.

The first real step in setup is understanding the CCPM system. After that I would say the radio setup would be next.

Just sit down after you watch the videos and move the swash up and down for an hour or so. Watch how the linkages interact and move.

And by all means DON'T just start working on it when you see a problem. Sit and look at it. Measure you links check and recheck everything before you start to change things around. The measure twice cut once rule is so much easier then fixing things after the fact.

Embrace failure because without it success would be normal.

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10-11-2010 07:39 PM  8 years agoPost 6
doorman

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Ray's Hobby
Even though you are over a 100 miles away, you should contact Ray at Ray's Hobby (shop name???) and see if he can put you into contact with someone close to you or even give you info on the club in Grey... it would be worth a weekend road trip to meet up with some others that are flying heli's and if you set the trip up with them, I am sure that you would find one or SIX tha would be glad to help you out plus have a beer or SIX with you...

Hope this helps you out..... Stan

Don't let the address fool you... I used to travel your area quite a bit.... just moved about a month ago!!!!!!

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10-11-2010 08:04 PM  8 years agoPost 7
EmbdenMe Heli

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Even though you are over a 100 miles away, you should contact Ray at Ray's Hobby (shop name???) and see if he can put you into contact with someone close to you or even give you info on the club in Grey
It's funny that you mention this - I just sent them an e-mail this morning - the club name is the "Southern Maine RC Helicopter Association" (I believe this is the one your talking about). It is located in Grey - about 100 miles away but as you mention it may be worth a trip down.
I haven't heard anything back yet but I'm sure I will.
Thanks.

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10-11-2010 08:11 PM  8 years agoPost 8
heliflyer3

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LOL its funny how we become better heli mechanics before we become better pilots

Fly it like it's your buddys bird
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10-11-2010 08:17 PM  8 years agoPost 9
bmapope

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TN

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By Necessity !

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10-11-2010 09:55 PM  8 years agoPost 10
ncostes

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Oh yea – one other item I seriously under-estimated was the cost of the beer involved while trying to fix / fine tune something.
Maybe less beer, and the repairs wouldn't take as long

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10-11-2010 10:13 PM  8 years agoPost 11
doorman

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Less BEER???????????????????????
ncostes

Where are you from????????????

Have you ever been to Maine in the winter????

EmbdenMe Heli, sounds like you are on the right track... and yes that is the club.... I am sure that they will get back to you too.... Good Luck....

Stan

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10-12-2010 01:56 PM  8 years agoPost 12
Heli0228

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flying
I agree with ""Ncostes" less beer and you will be fine. This is not the hobby to involve alcohol you can get hurt fast and bad if your not fully aware of what your doing. I do not in any way imply a problem I just do not like to mix beer and flying, I have seen people get hurt from the mix so I just wanted to advise you to start off the right way. Have fun and be safe.

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10-12-2010 02:51 PM  8 years agoPost 13
doorman

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Just To Be Clear!!!!!!!!
Just to clear things up here..... I am pretty sure that the original post about beer was a joke, and I can tell you that my post about beer was also a joke only.......
So please do not take this as advising to drink beer and fly..... good drum to beat, but in the right place...

SORRY for any possible confusion.....

Stan

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10-12-2010 03:14 PM  8 years agoPost 14
Heli0228

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Joke
I took it as a joke or just one beer, but I just wanted to post my caution statment to point out the danger just in case some other person does not read it as you intended. No Problem take care and have fun.

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10-12-2010 03:17 PM  8 years agoPost 15
EmbdenMe Heli

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Holy ....!!!

Yes it was meant as a light-hearted joke (thus the big grins after the comment). Sorry if anyone took this as a suggestion to get wasted and go flying.

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10-12-2010 07:15 PM  8 years agoPost 16
Carman9876

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I would have to agree with less beer.

Beer can make you fat and is full of sugar.

I think liquor is the way to go.

You drink less and you can even use it to wipe down your heli after flying.

AAA+++ for more liquor less beer.

Embrace failure because without it success would be normal.

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10-12-2010 07:30 PM  8 years agoPost 17
doorman

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Now That's Funny!!!!!!!!!!
Carman9876, I am with you!!!!!!!!!!!!

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10-13-2010 12:15 AM  8 years agoPost 18
Brokenwing II

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You guys are crazy. Man I wish I hadn't quit drinking.

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10-13-2010 01:31 AM  8 years agoPost 19
bustedmp

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Shamokin, PA

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My first heli was a Lite Machines 110. It was a POS, but I could fly it. My next was a JR Venture 30 ARF. I learned alot about the collective and basic setup, but wasn't happy with that. I took the advice of The owner of The HS I bought it from, and got a heli that needed complete assembly. He told me to get Ray's building ans setup DVD and follow it during my build. I bought a Raptor 30V2 in kit form, and rays dvd's. Building the heli as ray did in his dvd was a great improvement for me as far as repairs go. An unfortunate back problem forced me to make a job change and less money so helis had to go. Now that I am back to earning a good paycheck for some time now, I am getting another heli. I pulled all of Rays dvds out an got the new elec dvds also. I have been watching them and still deciding on the heli I am getting, but it will be elec. I think building a heli from the ground up would be a good help.

As for the beer, Please drink resonsibly. I do agree, beer and flying don't mix. But, When the right beer is being consumed and at the right time ( after flying/ building) it's ok. I am pretty lucky as far as beer goes, and I love beer. I have brewing my own for just over a year now, so If I want a certain style of beer, I brew a batch. I have 3 5gal kegs on tap.

The world is yours!

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10-16-2010 02:10 AM  8 years agoPost 20
neilg.

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maybe someone in new york state or canada would be closer

i'd luv to live in a small town

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