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10-13-2010 12:00 AM  8 years agoPost 21
SilverEagle2

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Let me dispel the "thinking" with the facts.

Mormons CAN drink Coke. It is NOT a caffeine thing.

They are asked to not drink Coffee, Tea's from the tea leafs, or alcohol.

Some may, as they are fully allowed to choose to do, however there are consequences to that choice.

So those that say Mormons "do" drink, that may be true, however what you are not aware is that they more than likely do not attend the temple, or hold leadership positions if they "do."

They are free to lie about it too. Also has consequences.

Their choice however. Free Agency, which is fundamentally one thing that man has always had, is a big a big tenant of the Mormon faith. However, the consequences of those choices, which are more often unavoidable, are enforced. This is the case here.

Now to the "why?" Mormons have a health code referred to by the Church as the "Word of Wisdom." It is a health code they are highly encouraged to follow. (see above on choice and consequence) This "Word of Wisdom" prescribes some don't do's, and some do's.

It is a matter of controlling ones body and mind. Also a big tenant in the Mormon faith. Falls in line with the no sex before marriage principle too. Learning to be the masters of ones body rather than a slave to cravings and desires is what it is all about for Mormons.

The Do Not Do's:
Abstain from Coffee, Tea from the tea leafs (Herbals OK), Alcohol, Tobacco, and harmful (read illegal) drugs.

Some in the Mormon faith have contended that caffeine is a harmful drug because it is a stimulant and is often abused as such. Take Red Bull, Monster, etc. All proven to not be very healthy and addictive. So, yes, the Mormons have perhaps created the confusion themselves after being advised to stay away from stimulants which caffeine is, however, it has not been explicitly banned. If it is being abused or the individual is addicted to it, then perhaps they have violated the principle and should abstain from drinking caffeine.

Coffee and tea's were banned because of other things in them, not the caffeine. Decafs are still not allowed.

The Do's:
Eat meat sparingly. Eat grains and vegetables.

If you think about it...not a bad way to conduct life.

Not to mention, it is statistically shown that Mormons seem to have higher life expectancies than their non Mormon neighbors. (Also, their divorce rate is lower too)

Probably more than you wanted, but some asked.

P.S. This "Word of Wisdom" also produces some really gorgeous women.

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10-13-2010 12:03 AM  8 years agoPost 22
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10-13-2010 12:34 AM  8 years agoPost 23
Adaboy

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I won't comment on thier faith as I don't practice it.

I will say most people I've seen drinking Diet Coke, it doesn't look like it helps unless you are diabetic. They should change the name from Diet to simply sugar free. Then while they are changing things they should use a different subsitute.

Sounds like were cooking with gas....

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10-13-2010 08:12 AM  8 years agoPost 24
philip 01

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as i understand joseph smith wrote the book of morman from a stack of plates he found buried in the ground.

it is an interesting story.

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10-13-2010 03:25 PM  8 years agoPost 25
SilverEagle2

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as i understand joseph smith wrote the book of Mormon from a stack of plates he found buried in the ground.
Correction: Joseph Smith TRANSLATED the Book of Mormon from a set of plates he was directed to, that were buried in the ground.

Of course that is a matter of faith as well.
it is an interesting story.
Agreed

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10-13-2010 06:06 PM  8 years agoPost 26
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the Mormon women I've seen would make good stand-ins for those beef jerky (bigfoot) commercials. Now, the Jehovah's Witnesses, they send out their best talent.....smokin'....

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10-13-2010 06:13 PM  8 years agoPost 27
SilverEagle2

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Come to the land of promise brother and you will change your mind VERY quickly.

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10-13-2010 07:34 PM  8 years agoPost 28
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who wrote on the plates?

where are these plates now?

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10-13-2010 09:23 PM  8 years agoPost 29
SilverEagle2

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who wrote on the plates?
Mormon compiled and abridged a record kept by an ancient people of the Americas, thus the title..."Book of Mormon." They are the writings of the prophets of that people much like the gospels in the New Testament and the Old.
where are these plates now?
With God. Again, that is also a matter of faith.

Interested? Look here!

More specifically to your questions...Look Here!

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10-13-2010 09:38 PM  8 years agoPost 30
deanguy

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Are you talking as in dinnerware?

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10-13-2010 10:34 PM  8 years agoPost 31
ScottV

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Are you talking as in dinnerware?
Plates are another term for metal sheets. So no, not dinnerplates.

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10-13-2010 11:32 PM  8 years agoPost 32
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_plates

Golden plates
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, search

An 1893 engraving depicting Joseph Smith's description of receiving artifacts from the angel Moroni. The artifacts include the golden plates and a set of spectacles made of seer stones, which Smith called the Urim and Thummim. The sword of Laban and an ancient breastplate are shown nearby.According to Latter Day Saint belief, the golden plates (also called the gold plates or in some 19th century literature, the golden Bible)[1] are the source from which Joseph Smith, Jr. translated the Book of Mormon, a sacred text of the faith. Some witnesses described the plates as weighing from 30 to 60 pounds,[2] being golden or brassy in color, and being composed of thin metallic pages engraved on both sides and bound with one or more rings. It is a matter of speculation whether these were actual metal plates, perhaps manufactured by Smith himself,[3] or whether witnesses who claimed to have seen them based their testimony on what they had seen in visions. Smith told several stories about the origin and nature of the golden plates that are accepted by most Latter Day Saints as a matter of faith and sometimes also on the basis of apologetic scholarship that thus far has received no mainstream academic recognition.

Smith said he found the plates on September 22, 1823 at a hill near his home in Manchester, New York after an angel directed him to a buried stone box. The angel at first prevented Smith from taking the plates because he had not followed the angel's instructions. In 1827, on his fourth annual attempt to retrieve the plates, Smith returned home with a heavy object wrapped in a frock, which he then put in a box. Though he allowed others to heft the box, he said that the angel had forbidden him to show the plates to anyone until they had been translated from their original "reformed Egyptian" language. Smith dictated a translation using a seer stone in the bottom of a hat, which he placed over his face to view the words written within the stone.[4] Smith published the translation in 1830 as the Book of Mormon.

Smith eventually obtained testimonies from a number of men who said they had seen the plates.[5] After the translation was complete, Smith said he returned the plates to their angelic guardian. Therefore, if the plates existed, they can not now be examined.

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10-14-2010 04:37 AM  8 years agoPost 33
drdot

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fwiw...

I like the part about the rock and the hat the best!!!...

BC

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10-14-2010 07:01 AM  8 years agoPost 34
philip 01

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the plates should still exist.

how would they get to god? (et?)

now, if an angel delivered the plates to him, that might indicate some type of extra terrestrial entity since a 'angel' is a entity that can fly and comes down from the sky, or 'heavens' as is actually described.

obviously the only entity that could do this would be extra terrestrial in nature. no other way around that one.

what happened to the stone that he read from, and what type of hat was he reading the stone from?

the links above did not answer these questions.

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10-14-2010 07:11 AM  8 years agoPost 35
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10-14-2010 07:18 AM  8 years agoPost 36
philip 01

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it's an interesting story but lot's of questions. kinda like the other ones.

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10-14-2010 07:20 AM  8 years agoPost 37
Dennis (RIP)

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now, if an angel delivered the plates to him, that might indicate some type of extra terrestrial entity since a 'angel' is a entity that can fly and comes down from the sky, or 'heavens' as is actually described.

obviously the only entity that could do this would be extra terrestrial in nature. no other way around that one.
Not necessarily as an angle is a thing of the Spirit.

Spirit:

The English word spirit (from Latin spiritus "breath" has many differing meanings and connotations, all of them relating to a non-corporeal substance contrasted with the material body. The spirit of a human being is thus the animating, sensitive or vital principle in that individual, similar to the soul taken to be the seat of the mental, intellectual and emotional powers. The notions of a person's "spirit" and "soul" often also overlap, as both contrast with body and both are imagined as surviving the bodily death in religion and occultism,[1] and "spirit" can also have the sense of "ghost", i.e. manifestations of the spirit of a deceased person.

The word "Spirit" is used in Hebrew to denote indifferently either a divine or human messenger such as an angel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit

Chew on THAT one.

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10-14-2010 07:22 AM  8 years agoPost 38
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kinda like the other ones
Stories or religion? Guess the two are one in the same.

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10-14-2010 07:59 AM  8 years agoPost 39
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pretty much at this point.

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10-14-2010 05:37 PM  8 years agoPost 40
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the plates should still exist.
Mormons believe they still do. They are simply not here as they served the purpose they were intended to serve...namely to bring about the Book of Mormon later in the time line of the world.

Just because they are not in a museum somewhere to be held or seen, does not mean they did not exist.

Where are the tablets on which the 10 commandments were written on? Who is to say that they were not taken off the planet in the same way?

Again, all faith based.

monkey, if you really want to know, catch the guys with shirts and ties, riding bikes and knocking on doors in your hood. They would be more than happy to chat with you.
What is this becoming "Does the Mormon God Exist" thread, now?
Well that would then become the "Does God exist?" thread as Mormons believe in the same God as most of the major religions of the world.

So..having seen that topic beaten over and over in this forum, I'd have to say no...this is vastly different than that.

Was the original question on caffeine/coffee answered to the satisfaction of the masses?

If you want more info...I will be happy to answer more via PM.

Keep in mind...I am not from Utah originally. I moved here for school at the newest PAC12 school and got stuck when I met and married a jewel of a gal. I am a military brat and have seen and interacted with Mormons outside of Utah long before getting here.

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