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03-31-2012 06:44 AM  7 years ago
outhouse

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we dont even know if paul was a self proclaimed pharisees

so dont give me that grey

we know he was born a roman citizen first and formost

and dont start with acts, it as unreliable as anything paul states.

and dont start with Gamaliel, he would have never taught a jew killer anything. Your talking to polar opposites right there.

paul was a henchman for the Sadducees, the rest is all up for debate
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03-31-2012 11:54 AM  7 years ago
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Chas why is it you think there is a magical get out of jail free card? I think you need study up some more. Nobody is untouched by sin. We will all always be subject to the consequences of our actions good or bad while we are here in this life.

Chas what is offered to us by God is a better form of life while we are here but its main goal is eternal

First question for you chas is do you believe in absolutes? I'm not asking about a perticular item or reason but just as a general question?.
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03-31-2012 04:10 PM  7 years ago
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Tom, when Chas gets up this morning he will no doubt say,
"Absolutely Not!, For Sure dude...."

On another note, when the Lord, through His WORD, tells
us that we WERE (ARE) spiritually dead - He isn't kidding.

Look at outty. This california cat is SO impressed with
his own knowledge that he has read from the writtings of
other men, just like himself, he is so uneducated that he
mistakenly thinks *(believes), that he knows it ALL!

This is a sad mistake for a human to make.

Those of us here who have had a spiritual awakening are
witnessing the metaphyical realm that lies beyond our
phyiscal perception.

We know it to be true.

But these types do not wish to KNOW the truth!

They are happy to 'hide' in their sin, even saying
there is no such thing as sin; yet the Bible says
if you say you have no sin, you make GOD a liar.

Without GOD granting them new life, the only inroad
we can make here in our sharing is that of the reality
that has happened to our hearts and souls.

TO the intelligent man, this should be cause for
thought: "I wonder if the Resurrection of Jesus Christ
is Real?"

Yet outty continues to post what other men say....
I love gravity, it always keeps my feet planted when I fly!
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03-31-2012 08:30 PM  7 years ago
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Yet outty continues to post what other men say....
Helicopter, every word in the Bible was written/translated/modified/interpreted by man, which you seem to quote from quite a bit. You have faith with zero proof it was inspired by God.
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03-31-2012 08:43 PM  7 years ago
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yes and much of it is fiction.

take jesus geneology

the bible contradicts itself in thi ssubject showing you the bible is wrong and not written by a gods divine ghost whispering in ears
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03-31-2012 10:09 PM  7 years ago
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Outty,
I was once confused about the entire Bible just like you are.
(Beware; you do not yet know you are!)

The heart of a man MUST be regenerate at God's command to
be enabled to see the Truth of it's authenticity.

You are still living in a state of spiritual death, and
as a result, are UNABLE to understand or comprehend
the Living God.

But friend, open your heart. Cease this thinking you know it all.

There is a life we can possess, that is Eternal Life!

This both: Qualitatively, and Quantitatively!

It is a MIRACE when GOD Himself enables us to BELIEVE.

You simply cannot do this on your own, in your own power.

It is The Gift of God.

He must take your heart and SHOW you that the resurrection
of Jesus Christ is The Truth. And until then, you CANNOT
comprehend it in any manner.
I love gravity, it always keeps my feet planted when I fly!
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03-31-2012 10:18 PM  7 years ago
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How do we know god is a he (Male)?
A great joke I heard last night on David Letterman..
"god is a woman.. why?.. because god never forgets , is vengfull, self promoting and punishes out of love!"
"R.I.P Roman" Citizen 0094 in the Nation
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03-31-2012 10:24 PM  7 years ago
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im not confused by mythology

im the one with the open mind
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04-01-2012 01:37 AM  7 years ago
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Yup
GOT THAT RIGHT DAN !!! Ever Present Also !

So which side you want to be on ???
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04-01-2012 03:45 AM  7 years ago
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How do we know god is a he (Male)?
because Yahweh was a warrior deity that would save the jews from the Babylonians. [epic fail on Yahweh's part]

jews would not worship a half female deity

god had a wife asherah as well.
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04-01-2012 01:07 PM  7 years ago
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im the one with the open mind
And unfortunately the closed heart

God gave you a heart to love him as well as others. You use it to love your daughter and family and friends yet you have hardened your heart toward God
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04-01-2012 01:49 PM  7 years ago
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Thomas, have you hardened your heart toward the Hindu gods?

Dusty
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04-01-2012 02:42 PM  7 years ago
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No. Have you? Have you a hard heart for the bishop of Oxford as well? Where does your heart lie Dusty? Only you know ( and of course the God you deny with your every breath)
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04-01-2012 02:49 PM  7 years ago
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Dusty I try to excersise my heart daily! When was the last time you did a heart check? When did you last work out your heart! Your kindom of self has to answer these questions. Don't fool yourself , listen to what your heart tells you.
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04-01-2012 03:04 PM  7 years ago
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...

I really don't know
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04-01-2012 03:08 PM  7 years ago
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I better discribe it as free will conscious thought. Something ONLY humans have.
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04-01-2012 05:28 PM  7 years ago
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Umm,,,you guys do realize you cannot think, feel, rationalize, or do anything besides pump blood with your heart,,,right, please tell me you understand the science of the heart vs. brain.
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04-01-2012 06:15 PM  7 years ago
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Chas you realize we are talking about the heart of your conscious soul? you may need to read up here to catch up with the conversation
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04-02-2012 04:52 AM  7 years ago
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I understand to what you were referring. You are still using the wrong nomenclature. The brain is where all we are resides. If you choose to refer to something, then at least use the right body part.

If you propose by your beliefs that a soul is non corporeal, then it would not have have any physical body parts. Therefore it would not have a heart.
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04-02-2012 05:09 AM  7 years ago
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sORRY: Just your Statement Proves it Chas !
I understand to what you were referring.
Wrong : The Brain is a Organ
The brain is where all we are resides.
HUH ???? Explain Conscience or Guilt
Why do some have it any many do not ???
If you propose by your beliefs that a soul is non corporeal,
then it would not have have any physical body parts.

You actually go round and round in your own circle of thought --looking for a exit ramp to get off the Highway
Therefore it would not have a heart.
I'd like to know how a individual establishes such a premise ???? or what environments must one live in // to lead to such a thought of mankind ??/

Detail Three Word's : tHE 1ST ONE IS An ANALOGY

HEART

SOUL

MIND
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