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01-31-2012 03:46 PM  6 years agoPost 11961
GREYEAGLE

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Outty : WOW ! That's Just WACKed - Sincerley - SHOCKED !
!st before we EVEN leave the Island - Let's Start here with scripture - just so the Lid doe's Not Blow off the Pot ! I love you Like a Brother ! But I now see why you have such trouble with discernment of the scripture.

FOR NOW : STAY OUT OF THE BIBLE - More later : No - Offense What so Ever ( You got to regroup a bit ) on some reading -learning - cognitive language interpretation issues that some how got skipped in your primary training.

No doubt has created a huge stumbling block - on everything for you and you overcame them overflowing with a natural talent.

Like the young person in basic math like multiplication , geometry, algebra or biology - or "ENGLISH Composition" that get's blocked and say's : " I don't GEt IT " - I don't Git IT " and continually build's the wall higher. Hence " Stay Out of The Bible " for now

The only reference I can give as a example: is an adult that has not / cannot /or never learned at all to actually read - but has over come the obstacle- " I know a few and they are marvelous people "

Imagine trying to teach " READING " to a full grown elder adult - It's worse than tough - The only reward is when it " Click's " and you see them take off like gasoline on a fire.

IN SKS' WORD's:
" what the f2E$ has comprehension to do with anything? Why do we need to comprehend - or even discuss anything?

Let's start here to keep the fire from spreading

Just try to apply some thing that you find.

Then maybe we will work on Reading Comprehension & Discernment

New International Version (NIV)
Romans 12
A Living Sacrifice
1 Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God—this is your true and proper worship.

2 Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.
Humble Service in the Body of Christ

3 For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you.

4 For just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function,

5 so in Christ we, though many, form one body, and each member belongs to all the others.

6 We have different gifts, according to the grace given to each of us. If your gift is prophesying, then prophesy in accordance with your[a] faith;

7 if it is serving, then serve; if it is teaching, then teach;

8 if it is to encourage, then give encouragement; if it is giving, then give generously; if it is to lead, do it diligently; if it is to show mercy, do it cheerfully.
Love in Action

9 Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good.

10 Be devoted to one another in love. Honor one another above yourselves.

11 Never be lacking in zeal, but keep your spiritual fervor, serving the Lord.

12 Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer. 13 Share with the Lord’s people who are in need. Practice hospitality.

14 Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse not

15 Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn.

16 Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position. Do not be conceited.

17 Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone.

18 If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone.

19 Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord.
20 On the contrary:

“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”

21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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01-31-2012 04:19 PM  6 years agoPost 11962
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GreyEagle, what a total, utter moron he is. . . .
I care not for your ethics, or morals, or what you construed as right or wrong, or how you see the ideal form of conduct that members of society should follow.

I care not for any of that and I do not want to know about your views of them.

they are not under scrutiny here, nor their validity or justification thereof.

what is under scrutiny is your "belief" in this God that we've talked about to no avail and to which you've constantly ducked all points concerned his existence and the Bible's validity in light of all the historical research being done and all other forms of arguments at the absurdity of the construct that you hold.

your God needs to show himself - everything else is just a beaver chewing into the tree.

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01-31-2012 04:49 PM  6 years agoPost 11963
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So where does it say he didn't pay his taxes?
I found that info on a few different places, ive been looking for a better source but havnt found it.

like I said once you start looking into into 1rst century roman taxes you realize they were only there to bilk jews out of money. their job was to extort taxes.

Pilate was a nobody not even a true roman and given what amounts to a crap job in a troubled and violent section to rule over

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01-31-2012 04:51 PM  6 years agoPost 11964
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Grey if we were talking about biblical jesus then you would have a point.

we are talking about historical jesus, you know the real man.

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01-31-2012 08:01 PM  6 years agoPost 11965
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Outty : WOW ! That's Just WACKed - Sincerley - SHOCKED !
!st before we EVEN leave the Island - Let's Start here with scripture - just so the Lid doe's Not Blow off the Pot ! I love you Like a Brother ! But I now see why you have such trouble with discernment of the scripture.

FOR NOW : STAY OUT OF THE BIBLE - More later : No - Offense What so Ever ( You got to regroup a bit ) on some reading -learning - cognitive language interpretation issues that some how got skipped in your primary training.

No doubt has created a huge stumbling block - on everything for you and you overcame them overflowing with a natural talent.

Like the young person in basic math like multiplication , geometry, algebra or biology - or "ENGLISH Composition" that get's blocked and say's : " I don't GEt IT " - I don't Git IT " and continually build's the wall higher. Hence " Stay Out of The Bible " for now

The only reference I can give as a example: is an adult that has not / cannot /or never learned at all to actually read - but has over come the obstacle- " I know a few and they are marvelous people "

Imagine trying to teach " READING " to a full grown elder adult - It's worse than tough - The only reward is when it " Click's " and you see them take off like gasoline on a fire.
you know, after reading this I just see that you're a f3$king idiot Grey. You really are.

anyone can deny what multiplication, division, algebra, biology etc. . . are, ANYONE. They can deny it all they f@#king want, doesn't stop them being true. A student can keep on saying to his teacher, as you state: "I don't get it, I DON'T GET IT". But the student CANNOT DENY THE TRUTH of what they are because they remain true REGARDLESS of whether the student is good at them or not.

By contrast the scriptures and that piece of sh$% that you call the Bible is nothing of the sort: there are civilizations who have never heard of it and don't have to have it: yet they too will discover geometry, physics, biology if given enough time. It just so happened that these fields were pioneered by white Europeans initially, so why bother reinventing the wheel?

Your God does not show himself, is never around, therefore I have no ethical nor moral obligations to "believe" or even to submit to your crap. and your crap is not unique, it is just one of a whole array of hundreds of thousands of crap that mankind has constructed over his history to try to explain things that he is just plain dumb and scared about.

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01-31-2012 08:34 PM  6 years agoPost 11966
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oh Grey, 23 minutes, just 23 more minutes and I would have won, I will send out the $26 tomorrow !!

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01-31-2012 08:35 PM  6 years agoPost 11967
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01-31-2012 08:38 PM  6 years agoPost 11968
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oh Grey, 23 minutes, just 23 more minutes and I would have won, I will send out the $26 tomorrow !!
so, Gearhead, how many jars of honey can Grey buy with that?

don't choke on it now, will you Grey.

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01-31-2012 09:00 PM  6 years agoPost 11969
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synodontis,,,, we love you man !!

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01-31-2012 09:27 PM  6 years agoPost 11970
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You know Grey, its looks to me like you are picking and choosing your interpretations,ie some literally like creation,Adam and Eve,young earth etc but that bit Out just posted about taxes is supposed to mean something else? Where do you draw the line on reading more into the words that are written?When you disagree with what is written? Or is there some other reason.So what I'm asking is, how would anyone be able to correctly read the bible when it seems like it you need to know how to selectively read between the lines.

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01-31-2012 10:24 PM  6 years agoPost 11971
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how would anyone be able to correctly read the bible when it seems like it you need to know how to selectively read between the lines
best question asked in a long time.

jesus has very little historicity, so little some dont think he exist.

I started out in that camp but while he did grow in literature, i do think it grew around a real teacher of judaism in the first century.

not much is know with any certainty other then he was a traveling teacher of judaism who was baptized by John the baptist, who later ticked off the romans and was put to death on a cross.

beyond that its a guess

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01-31-2012 10:24 PM  6 years agoPost 11972
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you did point out exactly how they pervert gods words though

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01-31-2012 10:25 PM  6 years agoPost 11973
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Finally, a Jesus whose itinerary is sketched primarily not from the Synoptics but from John - a Jesus, that is, whose mission extended routinely not only to the Galilee but also to Judea, and specifically Jerusalem - can speak to the anomaly that has propelled this investigation, namely, that Jesus alone was killed as an insurrectionist on that Passover, but none of his disciples were. A repeated mission in Jerusalem, especially during the pilgrimage holidays when the prefect, too, of necessity, was there, explains how Caiaphas and Pilate would both already know who Jesus was and what he preached, and thus know as well that he was not in any first-order way dangerous. Just as the crowd's enthusiasm for Jesus as messiah accounts for the specific manner of his death, so Jesus' dual focus - Judea, especially Jerusalem in and around the Temple, as well as the Galilee - accounts for the high priest's and the prefect's familiarity with his mission, and thus explains why Jesus was the sole focus of their action.

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01-31-2012 10:35 PM  6 years agoPost 11974
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Actually when it came to the judgement over Tax - He's response is Give to Caser what is Caesar's.

Dive into the posted scripture he ref's and read the pre - and the post of those he references

So you get the full view of what is taking place and WHY.
A brief snap shot picture will not do it

WHy doe's he get up- set - what is taking place to the normal civilian population with the legalistic procedures of the JEW's. . They are charging & purchasing sacrificial atonement' based upon what they - civilian's - could afford & exchanging currency as the currency is no longer any good also

Jesus was not Crucified over $$$

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01-31-2012 11:23 PM  6 years agoPost 11975
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Finally, a Jesus whose itinerary is sketched primarily not from the Synoptics but from John - a Jesus, that is, whose mission extended routinely not only to the Galilee but also to Judea, and specifically Jerusalem - can speak to the anomaly that has propelled this investigation, namely, that Jesus alone was killed as an insurrectionist on that Passover, but none of his disciples were. A repeated mission in Jerusalem, especially during the pilgrimage holidays when the prefect, too, of necessity, was there, explains how Caiaphas and Pilate would both already know who Jesus was and what he preached, and thus know as well that he was not in any first-order way dangerous. Just as the crowd's enthusiasm for Jesus as messiah accounts for the specific manner of his death, so Jesus' dual focus - Judea, especially Jerusalem in and around the Temple, as well as the Galilee - accounts for the high priest's and the prefect's familiarity with his mission, and thus explains why Jesus was the sole focus of their action.
Good out now do you understand what you just posted?

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02-01-2012 12:55 AM  6 years agoPost 11976
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Syco you KEEP STATING that GOD needs to show up!

Dude are you really THAT DENSE?

HE came to the earth. (Showed Himself in a body JUST LIKE
the Body HE created for US.)

He came to make Payment for our sins and disobedience so
that the RIGHTEOUS JUSTICE of God's Laws remain.

Either YOU die for your sins or someone ELSE dies for YOU.

Jesus Christ came to die. IT was His Mission. For YOU.

You cannot see this because your life is in effect DEAD to
God.

But the GOOD NEWS is God wants to give you LIFE!

All He requires of any of us is to REPENT.

Turn around in thinking (mistakenly) That we already know
better than GOD! This is a big problem for you.

If you REPENT, And Receive Jesus as Savior, God gives you

THE LIFE OF JESUS! HE sees Jesus dying on the Cross as you!
He then (Upon your acceptance of The TRUTH) sees You as
living the Life of His Son Jesus!

Open that BIBLE and Read 2 Corinthians 5:21 and LET GOD SPEAK to you. If you will LISTEN to HIM there, you MIGHT see
Him too!

Jesus said you must be Born Again.

You must DIE to be born again!

I love gravity, it always keeps my feet planted when I fly!

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02-01-2012 01:08 AM  6 years agoPost 11977
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why the F#$K do I have to open some book to let God speak to me?

why can't the all powerful, all seeing, all present, all sensing piece of sh$t speak to me directly himself?

why the F#$K do I have to do the work to even bother to get him to speak to me? He's in charge of everything isn't he, so you claim? Good, then he can damn well speak to me directly instead of hearing all this nonsense from books, idiot preachers, morons, retards, and partial drunks.

the real reason, of course, is that he's just a figurement of all your imagination, which explains why you lot have to defend something that just isn't ever around.

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02-01-2012 01:22 AM  6 years agoPost 11978
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Come on sycolee tell us How you really feel

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02-01-2012 01:41 AM  6 years agoPost 11979
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""why do I have to open some book to let God speak to me""

you don't

""speak to me directly himself""

he has, you just don't see it, he send you to this thread, you just don't see it that way man

""He's in charge of everything isn't he""

NO, he is not, he gave you Free Will, if you just try to treat people better you may see what I am talking about

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02-01-2012 01:45 AM  6 years agoPost 11980
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""Come on sycolee tell us How you really feel""

no Thomas, that is just immature/uncontrolled intolerance

NOW he will come back with more because he knows no better

Jim
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