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11-18-2011 07:46 PM  6 years agoPost 9441
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Gearhead:

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Oh come on, you were doing so well. You answered three questions. Won't you tell us how much you like the Gods you don't believe in?

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11-18-2011 07:51 PM  6 years agoPost 9442
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his keeper won't let him out, he's in hibernation now.

still that's the right decision for the zoo to make considering how endangered spectacled bears are now.

all we need now is someone to volunteer to dart Grey and Thomas.

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11-18-2011 08:00 PM  6 years agoPost 9443
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Perhaps Gearhead will do it, as he says he doesn't like to feel faith inside himself, and that we are pulling it out.
Gearhead:
if I go back 100 , 200 pages I can find where YOU SAID you did not want to remove faith from us, but you and your dirty friends have started to pull something out of me I don't like to feel inside myself,

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11-18-2011 08:05 PM  6 years agoPost 9444
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Grinding your way to Damascus are you ??? - Tough road : Keep falling forward !
has taken a really ironic turn
Nope: You invited yourself to the dance on this post a long time ago - Same song - same tune - same music - same rift -
trying to defend and uphold their beliefs
We need no defense -Neither does (GOD) - (JESUS)- (HOLY SPIRIT)
the TRINITY DEFEND"S ITSELF = CANON
from a falsifier (me, outhouse etc. . . ).
That's Biblical as it was written
so why should they even care about me?
Come's with our job description
they have no responsibility for me.
We do not want to see you hurt yourself, pain ,strife, unhappy, grinding away or do it to other others " Wilderness"
and this going to heaven and spending an eternity should be reason enough to not care about the likes of me, outhouse, Dusty etc. . . at all.
But we sincerely do ! Weather it be Love, Brotherhood, Compassion - The list is endless for your welfare and to stop the endless strife you subject your self too !
You only have to ask outhouse how the Bible came into being, and you'll have your answer.
{ Don't ask the other guy ) Find it yourself ! Ask !
ethical grounds that I will expound on later.
Challenge Him you may get your answer !
you know nothing about "God".
Are you asking ? Sincerely { what do you know } is that your heart talking ?
if God wants something from me He should have the decency to talk to me Himself instead of all this silliness.
You are hearing - but you are not Listening Nudge /Nudge
isn't it ironic that we have to fear God who, strangely enough, tells us that He loves us etc. . and like all the other cowards He doesn't back up His threats at all, and people of different cultures NEVER heard of Him - or His pathetic, spineless threats.

"mmm" Read the Big 10 again and start from the top - That one is in your pocket It will speak too you
I do not strive to, merely point out that our limitations does not allow us any speculation or use of appeal to a higher power's judgment however conferred, because the issue of the higher power itself is in question.
Keep Reaching and remember to fall forward
Let's just call that ON THE ROAD

Well DOne ! You can take off the Highway Cone and start asking question's " Get a BOOK "

REVIEW :

CHRISTIAN"S strive to avoid:
Blame -Excuse - Deny - Envy - Jealousy - Fear - Hatred -
Through the Gospel { The Good Word}

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11-18-2011 08:47 PM  6 years agoPost 9445
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Grinding your way to Damascus are you ??? - Tough road : Keep falling forward !
no actually, we're shopping around for tranquilizer dart guns:

http://www.teledartusa.com/

notice that the intro photos are of raccoons. Ought to send them an email and ask for some bear photos to put in there too.
You are hearing - but you are not Listening Nudge /Nudge
actually we don't want to hear, let alone listen. That's because you cannot play the piano and never could. Even in Death in Venice there was never a scene of you playing the piano, you were just thumping on the keys.

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11-19-2011 01:24 AM  6 years agoPost 9446
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For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God.
Dusty again you only read in context that your mind set can see. The gift in this verse is being saved not being given faith. Please read the whole text not just one word or sentence before commenting as though you know what it means. You are welcome to ask and I will try to answer anything you ask if I can about the text.

Romans 1:16-18

16For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. 18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

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11-19-2011 01:33 AM  6 years agoPost 9447
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Dusty again you only read in context that your mind set can see.
Yes Dusty, you must complete your regimen of brainwashing then you will see everything clearly. We can also make you bark like a dog on command if you open your mind and allow us.

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11-19-2011 03:31 AM  6 years agoPost 9448
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Dusty : I'll try to answer it from looking at it from the outside - What is it what we got ?

You asked a sound philosophical question - I can only lead you to other GOSPEL scripture to maybe define Faith to your Culture.

In our belief given at birth - but only few - choose

Your Premise :
Can you show me where the Bible says anything about having free will to have faith? Because it says that faith is not from ourselves, that it is a gift from God, and that God grants us faith.
VERY WELL DONE & DISCOVERY

You have discovered through your scripture references that FAITH is seeded completely throughout the Cannon - { On both side's = O.T. & N.T. It's strength is a reinforcement for our Love of the Trinity - to the GLORY to bring a smile to HIS face the story of Grace It is OBEDIENCE and that is only the beginning of the teaching's - it is a start


Obviously, faith has not been granted to non-believers, or else we would have it.

Pretty Sharp Dusty GOOD QUESTION ! Put me to work and - I needed it to span the cultural divide with out using the word you do not understand : Well Done ! But NO Snare

These Scriptures : Maybe difficult for you to comprehend do to the cultural divide but the WORD and Meaning is written about - the word you have in question. They are a few stone's of the foundation for Christianity .

FAITH

(KJV) ROMANS 1 18- 22 note : vs 19 & 20

18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;



19Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

"given at birth"

20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

We also have these word from the FATHER A Big Plate - grab a fork and really squeeze the juice out of it. " The Everlasting GOD" Trusting in the LORD:

Ephesians 2:1-10 (New King James Version)

By Grace Through Faith

And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins,
in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience,
among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.

" sin " / satan AND ALL THAT GOE'S WITH IT !


But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us,

even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved),
and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,


that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.


For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,

not of works, lest anyone should boast.

For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works,

which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.

ANd THAT is a VERY FULL meal

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11-19-2011 08:10 AM  6 years agoPost 9449
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Grey the deranged bear.

make that desperate too.

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11-19-2011 11:48 AM  6 years agoPost 9450
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Yes Dusty, you must complete your regimen of brainwashing then you will see everything clearly. We can also make you bark like a dog on command if you open your mind and allow us.
Scoyle it is not I doing anything it is dusty and others ,you included who can't read. If you don't agree with or believe the translation is correct please read it in the original version to get its true meaning. But to just read into a sentence what you wish it is saying is only fooling yourself. No brainwashing here on my part,I'm just responding to incorrect info spouted here by bias persons. If they have something to promote they are welcome to start their own thread but alas they prove their laziness but only staying here to harass those who post here because they are self centered enough to think they have a right to be cruel and demeaning. Their kingdom of self shows very brightly in their post.

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11-19-2011 12:38 PM  6 years agoPost 9451
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Ah the Kingdom of self.

This is our issue.

This is THE issue the Bible addresses.

Our Creator wants us to Know Him and to Love Him.

Why?

For OUR Blessing!

So, to have that NEW LIFE - Knowing Him and Loving Him,
we must Die.

Die to our selfishness.

This is Hard to do.

As a matter of fact, it is IMPOSSIBLE for us to do!

It is the WORK OF God to kill our selfishness and give
us NEW LIFE.

We don't desire this Gift from GOD!!!

Why do I say that? Look at THIS THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOBODY got saved.

If they had been saved, and had come to the
miracle of the New Life, we'd hear about it here.

Right???

To Receive the Gift of the Resurrection, we must die.

I love gravity, it always keeps my feet planted when I fly!

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11-19-2011 12:39 PM  6 years agoPost 9452
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DIE TO SELF!

I love gravity, it always keeps my feet planted when I fly!

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11-19-2011 12:43 PM  6 years agoPost 9453
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Our response to God is:

No Thanks, I like me as I am.

I love gravity, it always keeps my feet planted when I fly!

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11-19-2011 01:56 PM  6 years agoPost 9454
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For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God.
Dusty again you only read in context that your mind set can see. The gift in this verse is being saved not being given faith.
Thomas, why do you always think that you know better than everyone else? If someone tells you that something means one thing, and you think it means something else, you do not even ask why, you just assume that the other person is wrong, and you are right. I suppose you are never wrong about anything?

Rather than explain why you think you are right by referring to the verse in question, instead all you do is make some sort of insulting personal comment, to try to justify to yourself why you think you know best. Your kingdom of self is showing very brightly in your post.

If being saved is the gift, then the verse would say something like:

''For it is by grace through faith you have been saved - and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift from God.''

But it doesn't say that, does it? It clearly says:

''For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God.''

See the difference? The part of the verse after the hyphen, explains the word before the hyphen. That's basic English. The word before the hyphen is ''faith'' not ''saved'' therefore it is faith that is the gift, not being saved. You can try to twist it all you like, but that is what it says. In any case, we know the Bible says that God saves all people, because it says ''God is the saviour of all people'' - how much plainer could it be?

Also, why do you twist the meaning of one verse, and completely ignore the other verse I posted? By reading just one sentence and saying it says what you wish it says, you are only fooling yourself.

Philippians 1:29
For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for him,

So, what has been ''granted'' in that verse? Obviously not being saved, because it doesn't say anything about being saved. It is belief that has been granted. That is what it says. Surely you can see that?
You are welcome to ask and I will try to answer anything you ask if I can about the text.
That's very kind of you. Now will you please show us where the Bible says that we have free will to believe, that we can use our free will to choose to believe, or anything even remotely like that?
Romans 1:16-18
16For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. 18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
None of those verses say anything about having free will to believe, or anything of the sort.

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11-19-2011 02:03 PM  6 years agoPost 9455
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Dusty : I'll try to answer it from looking at it from the outside - What is it what we got ?
Looking at it from the outside of what?
(KJV) ROMANS 1 18- 22 note : vs 19 & 20
18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

Ephesians 2:1-10 (New King James Version)
By Grace Through Faith
And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins,
in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience,
among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.
Still, nothing there about having free will to believe. Was that the question you were trying to answer?

I take it you don't believe this verse either?

Philippians 1:29
For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for him,

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11-19-2011 02:43 PM  6 years agoPost 9456
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oh look, Dusty, big letters, big words, small . . . .

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11-19-2011 03:40 PM  6 years agoPost 9457
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Wonderful !

you refuse to verify and acknowledge ownership of your own question : Bending the Bible : " deception " enjoy walking in the shadow's do we ?


Obviously, faith has not been granted to non-believers, or else we would have it.

Your ploy of manipulation / and planting just a speck of truth
" just enough "
to lead astray and deceive other's from the word - a Nobel Attempt. Very satisfying and confirming ploy to watch. Let's see if you can find it " your methodology " in the BOOK of Your Enemy - { you Can see it - can't HEar IT - but you know it 's their Repeatably Please show us your shadow as it is written

Can you find it in : THE BIBLE ?? It's also a Faith Question and in reality answer to it,.


Obviously, faith has not been granted to non-believers, or else we would have it.
- TAG = Your IT

Thrilling to observe your lack of cultural understanding of the English Language and your vain attempts to deceive and bend the word - which is a real identifier of the Shadow you cast

Best Part We have THE WORD You must use your own creative resources

I take it you don't believe this verse either?

Philippians 1:29
For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for him,

But TO SUFFER For HIM

This is really a question by using the deceptive slide of hand : SO ASk IT ! Or let's first see YOUR interpretation.

The question is in Your COurt :

YOUR EXPLANATION OF THE TRINITY -
The relation ship between GOD /JESUS / HOLY SPIRIT and their connection : Can you DO IT ?

This will be a comedic disaster

I'll give you a Hint : You can not Crucify a Spirit

PS. What Size Cone ??

OH By the Way ( Happy Thanks GIVING ) " Count your Blessing's "

and for Desert : ( MERRY CHRISTMAS )

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11-19-2011 04:31 PM  6 years agoPost 9458
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all sorts of letter sizes, some in bold font, and a quote here and there, jumbled up sentences and virtually incomprehensible grammar.

and that, boys and girls, is what cocaine does to you if you are already deranged.

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11-19-2011 04:33 PM  6 years agoPost 9459
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PS. What Size Cone ??
medium large, with whipped vanilla ice cream and a flake 99 please.

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11-19-2011 04:38 PM  6 years agoPost 9460
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Pretty Funney
I ALWAY"S WANted a { PARROT }

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