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10-26-2011 08:28 PM  6 years agoPost 8961
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""you have words that mean nothing""

ho snap, it's funny a cold Troll would say that

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10-26-2011 08:33 PM  6 years agoPost 8962
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""you appeal to pointless sentimentality""

""you are like those snake oil salesmen that tout their wares""

""you are also vain, arrogant, egotistical and selfish""

sks, if a person can feel it in his/hers hart it must be real !!

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10-26-2011 08:37 PM  6 years agoPost 8963
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""selfish""

that's so far off, only a Cold Troll would see it that way, from with-in it's own selfishness,

by the way, as a Cold Troll, why didn't you reply to some of my post's, could it be because I proved the Cold Troll to be smaller than he thinks he is,,

keep at it Girl,, some day you may (may) understand

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10-26-2011 08:42 PM  6 years agoPost 8964
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""you've all LOST before you even BEGAN""

when it comes to helping you I would have to say you are correct

Grey, you have LOST before you BEGAN, there is no help for the Cold Girl Troll,, she does not want help, she only wants to be a Troll, as she is it is her only nature

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10-26-2011 09:48 PM  6 years agoPost 8965
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School Superintendent Singling Out Christian Club

Written on October 26, 2011 by Giacomo

Owasso Kids for Christ is a voluntary before-school club that holds Bible studies at a local elementary school Owasso, Oklahoma. Like other clubs and organizations, they use school property to hold their meetings and events, along with the bulletin boards and take home fliers distributed by the schools to advertise their meetings and events.

In April, the club filed for permission to distribute take-home fliers for students and their parents to advertise a martial arts event they were sponsoring. When District Superintendent Clark Ogilvie saw that the Kids for Christ flier contained the phrase ‘Reaching the world for Christ!’ he denied permission for the club to hand out the fliers or placing them on the literature table in the elementary school where they hold their meetings.

The school district has a policy manual that spells out its directives on such things as outside advertisements. The manual states, “No literature will be distributed that contains primarily religious, objectionable, or political overtones.”

In addition to the superintendent’s denial, the attorney for the school district sent a letter to Kids for Christ in which was spelled out the reasons they were denied use of the school bulletin board, the literature table and the PA announcement system that are all used by the other community groups.

The Alliance Defense Fund has filed a lawsuit on behalf the Kids for Christ Club claiming the club had received permission to use the facilities for their events, but Ogilvie intentionally tried to stop the group from publicizing their event not only at the schools, but in local newspapers and signs posted in town. Ogilvie claimed that such advertisement would stir up trouble for the district.

ADF Litigation Staff Counsel Matt Sharp who is representing Kids for Christ said, “‘A Christian organization should not be targeted for discrimination when it is simply seeking to publicize its voluntary meetings just like other community groups do. The district would have people believe that the Constitution requires a religious organization to be singled out in this manner when, in reality, the Constitution strictly prohibits this type of discrimination. The courts have repeatedly upheld this.”

Sharp also pointed out that the district has given approval and allowed a YMCA flier to be handed out even though it contained the statement, “To put Christian principles into practice through programs that build healthy spirit, mind and body for all.” Sharp explained, “Just as it rightly allowed the YMCA’s flier, the district must allow the ‘Kids for Christ’ club’s fliers and other activity announcements. The district is very clearly wrong in its view of the First Amendment.”

I suspect that the school district realizes just how secular the YMCA has become in many of its functions and feel that no one would complain about them as much as they would about Kids for Christ which is a very evangelistic group. Years ago, I remember attending YCMA functions and hearing a biblical message, but those are few and far between these days. I’ve heard others quip that they need to remove the ‘C’ (Christian) out of their name.

This also demonstrates just how afraid schools are of anything to do with Christianity. But I wonder what the school would do if the received the same request from a Muslim or Hindu club? Would they deny them access to hand out fliers or the literature table or the PA system? I don’t think they would for fear of some kind of public outcry or retribution.

Lastly, how can a school district legally restrict Kids for Christ from advertising in the local newspaper or from hanging signs on telephone poles in town? The school has no jurisdiction over those kinds of matter and to try to do so is a direct violation of their First Amendment right to the freedom of religion and the free exercise thereof as well as their freedom of speech.

http://godfatherpolitics.com/1697/s...christian-club/

My Comments: Here we go again. The far lefty academia loons are working your tax dollars to the max as usual.

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10-26-2011 10:21 PM  6 years agoPost 8966
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no evidence

no proof

totally absurd fairy tales

and they all perpetuate this because . . . ?

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10-26-2011 10:39 PM  6 years agoPost 8967
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""no evidence""

sks, what you don't know,, is,,

if someone can feel Faith in their Hart then that is all the evidence they need,,

but sadly Cold Trolls don't have Harts so they will never know

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10-26-2011 11:38 PM  6 years agoPost 8968
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if someone can feel Faith in their Hart then that is all the evidence they need
but that's just the point I'm making which you lot ALL have trouble following.

if we accept your statement above, what are the chances of someone who is totally cut off from the world, or who has lived thousands of years ago before Christ and has never been in contact with the Bible, having any chance at all, or any notion of for that matter, of your "God" and this JC person? Humans all have feelings (a very complex array and range of them), and your feeling of such and such is NOT unique only to you - it's what most humans are capable of even before the time of Christ etc. . . . so such people will mostly have experienced your feelings too, but they don't go around talking crap about the Bible etc. . . no, they'll be talking crap and defending their own delusional rubbish (and the smart ones will realise what it is and not care).

see what I mean?

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10-27-2011 12:38 AM  6 years agoPost 8969
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sks, people have always worshiped a God, even Cave Men, even Native American Indians believed in life after death hundreds of years before the white man interred their land,,,

there is only one God and he goes by many different names that "man" has given him,, I don't go to church, I have not read the Bible and I feel I do not need too read it to know him because I feel Faith in my hart, and I have thrown all those types of questions away all because I have something inside me that I never had before, and when I saw how the Nucleus of the Human Cell works & how DNA is made I was totally convinced that the first cell did not come from mud and lightning,, do I hate you ?? NO, swallow your pride and go talk to a Minister and ask him your questions I can't answer, or just throw the questions away and allow the Faith to come threw, Faith is a warmth we all can feel

BTW, I don't believe a person has to go the Church way, because God loves you anyways, I believe if you have Faith and it's strong, and a person remembers that Faith daily, and learn not to hate you are OK, again> swallow your pride and go talk to a Minister and ask him your questions I can't answer

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10-27-2011 01:45 AM  6 years agoPost 8970
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And That Gentelmen : Is some one on the walk !
EL - Correcto Mundeo : Grace !

You need not belong to a church - But Recommended you attend one - so you may deepen your understanding and see a few thing's you question or need to discover.

You need not assign or identify yourself to a particular denomination -- beware of legalism and requirement's

For a matter of fact neither do you need to be Baptized !!

He is not offended - He knows it in advance --- even if you do not.

Never be intimidated on what you may find in the canon or what you may discover. Their is ALWAY"S SOMETHING NEW !

Kinda a book on:

BEEN Their - DOne That SO ??- What's New ? ?

-- or I Told YOU SO

Just read the instruction's !!! I gave the effort for you - and you know what it Cost- it was pre payed !! Save yourself the effort !! Just open the cover and save yourself a lot of grief.

Few cannot establish the connections between the Old Testament and the New Covenant { Anno Domini } and even those years between them.

Then they ask : Well show Me your JESUS

That should cause a few Air Bag's to Explode

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10-28-2011 03:27 AM  6 years agoPost 8971
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Just Because of What's in the Wind on another Post : some Bread
Thanx Tommy for the inspiration

Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.

And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with the servant, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as with the buyer, so with the seller; as with the lender, so with the borrower; as with the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him.

The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken this word.

The earth mourneth and fadeth away, the world languisheth and fadeth away, the haughty people of the earth do languish.

The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.

Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.

The new wine mourneth, the vine languisheth, all the merryhearted do sigh.

The mirth of tabrets ceaseth, the noise of them that rejoice endeth, the joy of the harp ceaseth.
They shall not drink wine with a song; strong drink shall be bitter to them that drink it.

The city of confusion is broken down: every house is shut up, that no man may come in.

There is a crying for wine in the streets; all joy is darkened, the mirth of the land is gone.

In the city is left desolation, and the gate is smitten with destruction.

When thus it shall be in the midst of the land among the people, there shall be as the shaking of an olive tree, and as the gleaning grapes when the vintage is done.

They shall lift up their voice, they shall sing for the majesty of the LORD, they shall cry aloud from the sea.

Wherefore glorify ye the LORD in the fires, even the name of the LORD God of Israel in the isles of the sea.

From the uttermost part of the earth have we heard songs, even glory to the righteous. But I said, My leanness, my leanness, woe unto me! the treacherous dealers have dealt treacherously; yea, the treacherous dealers have dealt very treacherously.

Fear, and the pit, and the snare, are upon thee, O inhabitant of the earth.

And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare: for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake.

The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly.

The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.

And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.

And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.

Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously.

Isa 24

PS; Burned out the Coptic's in Egypt " Far back - time's of Alexandria " H'mmm and a whole bunch of shaking is going on

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10-28-2011 03:45 PM  6 years agoPost 8972
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sks, people have always worshiped a God, even Cave Men, even Native American Indians believed in life after death hundreds of years before the white man interred their land,,,

there is only one God and he goes by many different names that "man" has given him,, I don't go to church, I have not read the Bible and I feel I do not need too read it to know him because I feel Faith in my hart, and I have thrown all those types of questions away all because I have something inside me that I never had before, and when I saw how the Nucleus of the Human Cell works & how DNA is made I was totally convinced that the first cell did not come from mud and lightning,, do I hate you ?? NO, swallow your pride and go talk to a Minister and ask him your questions I can't answer, or just throw the questions away and allow the Faith to come threw, Faith is a warmth we all can feel

BTW, I don't believe a person has to go the Church way, because God loves you anyways, I believe if you have Faith and it's strong, and a person remembers that Faith daily, and learn not to hate you are OK, again> swallow your pride and go talk to a Minister and ask him your questions I can't answer
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what a moron.

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10-28-2011 03:47 PM  6 years agoPost 8973
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He is not offended - He knows it in advance --- even if you do not.
the contradiction here, Grey, is that if He knows EVERYTHING IN ADVANCE, then I've got no FREE WILL, have I?

He will therefore be responsible for EVERYTHING!! Including all the arguments/violence/killings over and in His name, etc. . . by those claiming that they either KNOW Him or speak for Him!!!? We would just be toys for His own amusement, with no real thoughts/actions of our own. We would feel that we have free will and independence of action, but if what you say is correct, it would not be the case at all. How totally f@#@ed up is that?

is it any wonder I think you're a moron?

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10-28-2011 04:17 PM  6 years agoPost 8974
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If God did what you are insinuating he would have never created you in the first place. As I said before you have no concept of the attributes of God. That is why you constantly talk out of you rear end.

He gave us free will to allows to learn right from wrong.those who learn will lie and fellowship with him forever in eternity . Those who don't will suffer without forever. He does allow all things to happen but it is us humans that do make things bad and good happen

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10-28-2011 04:37 PM  6 years agoPost 8975
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If God did what you are insinuating he would have never created you in the first place.
God makes mistakes to.

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10-28-2011 05:21 PM  6 years agoPost 8976
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If God did what you are insinuating he would have never created you in the first place. As I said before you have no concept of the attributes of God. That is why you constantly talk out of you rear end.

He gave us free will to allows to learn right from wrong.those who learn will lie and fellowship with him forever in eternity . Those who don't will suffer without forever. He does allow all things to happen but it is us humans that do make things bad and good happen
blah, blah, blah, . . blah.

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and the logical problem here is the following (which NONE of you ever spotted or seen).

1) I STATED the IF condition. I made NO assumption what God does or does NOT.

2) you now have the arrogance to STATE that God is not like that, without any PROOF or proper resolvable reference point to end this unresolvable claim.

is it any wonder you are better off being darted?

and don't let that raccoon talk too much, I've had words with the ranger and he tells me that Dennis can almost be classified as a drug addict when you consider how many darts he's taken.

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10-28-2011 09:39 PM  6 years agoPost 8977
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""I made NO assumption what God does or does NOT""

so you DO know there is a God,, good for you

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10-28-2011 10:06 PM  6 years agoPost 8978
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so you DO know there is a God,, good for you
no, I have not made that assumption either.

I was considering IF God existed.

now onto your pathetic, idiotic points that would make even 4 year olds cringe.
sks, people have always worshiped a God, even Cave Men, even Native American Indians believed in life after death hundreds of years before the white man interred their land,,,
that's not true. people have NOT always worship a God. our ape ancestors did not do it because they would not have been able to comprehend nor put forward such a concept (see the chimps, gorillas etc . .). Also you empathize "a God", not a group of Gods, or some other supernatural entity that we can't comprehend, nor etc. . . tells me a lot about your pathetic imagination doesn't it?

and this BS about believing in an afterlife, well that sort of evolved in all cultures because, strangely enough, throughout human history we've always had to deal with death since it's part of the human condition, so idiots made up crap about this afterlife business. such people were total utter wankers (more about that later on).
there is only one God and he goes by many different names that "man" has given him
no there isn't, because if there was how come the Hindus don't agree with you, how about the Buddists etc. . . ? So you all CAN'T even agree if there is ONE or MANY or whatever, can you? If you can't even agree that, then what total crap are you talking about? Would you like to get darted? That can be arranged, you know.

And why the f@#@ is God a "male", why does He not have a wife? I'll tell you why, because the f2#@heads who dreamt Him up were biased, and their society (much like now) has a sexual bias towards males, and historical research shows that your God of the Bible did have a "wife" but She got written out. This was mentioned by outhouse on a number of occasions.

so considering all this, would you blame me if I think you're all talking sh$t, and have been all this time?

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10-28-2011 10:26 PM  6 years agoPost 8979
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like a Stoat, or Weasel, you have scared off house and Dusty,, here are a few things you do not know about yourself, from the Wikipedia free encyclopedia ,,

Stoat, a short-tailed Weasel

The stoat (Mustela erminea), also known as the ermine or short-tailed weasel,,, (the short Tail gives the Stoat a short-comings-complex)

The root word for "stoat" is likely either the Belgic word stout, meaning "bold"[3] or the Gothic word stautan, meaning "to push",,, (as he have seen)

It is listed among the 100 "world's worst alien invasive species",,, (as one has infested this thread)

The stoat has large anal scent glands",, (as we know from this thread)

and two types of scent marks; anal drags meant to convey territorial occupancy,,, (aaa sks, that's nasty)

The stoat is an opportunistic,,, (as he is)

Because of their larger size, male stoats are less successful than females,,, (aaa the poor thing, that's what make you so upset)

produce a fine chirping noise,,,(as we know)

When nervous, the stoat hisses, and will intersperse this with sharp barks or shrieks and prolonged screeching,,, (as we have heard in this thread)

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10-28-2011 10:32 PM  6 years agoPost 8980
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no, you haven't answered ANY of the proper questions thrown at you.

we've all spotted horrible, blatant logical inconsistencies and you lot have NOTHING to show for it. your only response is "I feel it in my heart therefore it must be true" crap.

outhouse and dusty have not been turned away, they're in fact still laughing at you.

and I wouldn't go as a stoat or weasel since I said, earlier on this thread, I'd wear a shark costume, but it would never work. so that base was covered long, long time ago.

but you haven't been paying attention have you?

are you lot EVER going to give us a proper reply to the objections we've raised, or do you intend to play this pathetic, childish, silly make believe game?

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