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10-12-2011 05:13 PM  7 years agoPost 8781
sks

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I could put a bomb in my under pant's and detonate it on the promises of 72 virgin's
why don't you do us and society a favour and do that to see if it works?

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10-12-2011 05:25 PM  7 years agoPost 8782
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Dennis, if you put your hands over your eyes, do you think you become invisible to other people?
Have not tried that dusty.

But, I am sure that if I put my hands over my eyes and imagine that you are truly a dipsh#t, that fact becomes very, very clear.

I did try that. It works.

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10-12-2011 07:03 PM  7 years agoPost 8783
sks

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tell me, Dennis, did closing your eyes worked when you did something like this?

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10-12-2011 08:52 PM  7 years agoPost 8784
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DOJ Says Feds Can Tell Church Who Its Ministers Will Be

October 12, 2011 by V2A

In yet another stunning attack on freedom of religion, President Barack Obama's Justice Department asked the Supreme Court last week to give the federal government the power to tell a church who its ministers will be.

The case involves a former teacher at Lutheran school, who along with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission is pushing a claim that a Lutheran congregation should be forced to restore her ministry position.

Americans United for Separation of Church and State and American Atheists, Inc. have filed briefs siding with the Obama administration against the church.

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints, the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations, and the American Center for Law and Justice are among those who have filed briefs supporting the Lutherans.

In 1999, the Hosanna-Tabor Evangelical Lutheran Church and School in Redford, Mich., hired Cheryl Perich to be a lay teacher on a one-year contract in its kindergarten.

The next year, Perich became a "called" teacher at the school after she became a commissioned minister in the church.

"To receive a call, a candidate must be selected by a local church congregation," said a brief the church submitted to the Supreme Court that was prepared by lawyers at the Beckett Fund for Religious Liberty and Douglas Laycock of the University of Virginia Law School.

"At Hosanna-Tabor, the school board typically presents a choice of candidates to the congregation, and after prayerfully considering the candidates, the congregation extends a call via congregational vote," the brief said. "Once the call has been accepted, the candidate is installed in office via the public rite of 'commissioning,' and is recognized as a 'Minister of Religion, Commissioned' — also known as a 'commissioned minister.'"

As a minister in the school, Perich taught religious classes, led students in prayer and performed other religious tasks. She was also expected to integrate the teaching of the Lutheran faith into all so-called "secular" classes, including math, science, social studies and art.

In 2004, Perich was diagnosed with narcolepsy and was unable to teach the fall semester. In January 2005, when she could not return, the school hired another teacher to take her place during the spring.

Later that month, according to a brief filed by the Justice Department's Office of the Solicitor General, Perich informed the school's principal, Stacey Hoeft, via email that she would be able to return to work the following month.

The principal informed her they had already hired a replacement teacher for the rest of the year.

The congregation then voted to ask Perich for a "peaceful release from her call."

"'Peaceful release' is a religious act by which a congregation and a called minister agree to release one another from the mutual obligations of the call," says the brief submitted by the church.

"Peaceful releases are common, and they leave the called minister in good standing and eligible for a new call."

Perich declined to be peacefully released. In late February, she showed up at the school and met with Principal Hoeft.

"Later that day, Perich told Hoeft that if she were not reinstated, she would sue the church," said the church's brief. "Hoeft immediately asked Perich if that were what she really meant, because a lawsuit would clearly violate the church's conflict resolution policy applicable to called employees. Perich repeated the threat."

The Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod explained this teaching in its own brief: "St. Paul teaches in his first letter to the Corinthians that Christians should generally resolve their disputes internally without going to the secular courts for relief." For this reason, the church has developed procedures for settling internal disputes.

A few weeks after the meeting between Perich and Hoeft, the Hosanna-Tabor congregation voted to "rescind Perich's call" because she had threatened to sue the church contrary to the church's teaching.

"The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission filed a complaint against the church under the Americans With Disabilities Act, alleging a single count of retaliation," says the church's brief. "Perich intervened, alleging the same retaliation claim and adding a retaliation claim under state law. Neither complaint alleges disability discrimination. Both complaints request an order reinstating Perich to her former position as a commissioned minister, together with back pay, compensatory damages, punitive damages, and injunctive relief ordering new 'policies, practices, and programs' at the church."

The Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod told the court in its brief that its views on the ministry and the settlement of disputes may not be "widely shared" or "widely understood." "But," the church said, "they have been the views of orthodox Lutherans for centuries."

Acting Deputy Solicitor General Leondra Kruger told the court, during oral arguments, that the federal government should be able to trump the church on these decisions.

"Their submission is that the hiring and firing decisions with respect to parochial school teachers and with respect to priests is categorically off limits," said Kruger. "And we think that that is a rule that is insufficiently attentive to the relative public and private interests at stake, interests that this court has repeatedly recognized are important in determining freedom of association claims."

Kruger contended this did not mean the government could order the Catholic Church to ordain female priests. But, even then, according to her argument, it would be a matter of the government weighing "the relative public and private interests at stake."

What is at stake is the First Amendment and the religious freedom of all Americans.

http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/terence...nisters-will-be

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10-12-2011 11:14 PM  7 years agoPost 8785
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Face it Thomas. You are your ilk are a dying breed. It won't be long before those who believe all that nonsense will be a tiny minority, ridiculed by many whenever such nonsense is spouted. In fact, we are seeing signs of this happening already.
to which BDIS replied:
Sadly, (and gloriously at the same time) this is foretold of in the bible.
And I responded with verses stating of deceivers that will come and deceive many ,and those who's true belief will be shown to them.yet you continue to ramble on about non-believers not believing?
''. Your ilk are not a dying breed because people are ''falling from faith,'' they are a dying breed because most young adults nowadays do not have faith in the first place, and the older ones who do have faith are dying off.
I don't see why you would think the Bible would say that non believers would simply multiply. They are on the increase because of those who have fallen away do not pass these values to the next generations. It is just part of the dumbing down of all the worlds population. Just go here to see the result of today's society.I
believe this may be a sister or cousin of sks's but I'm not sure

https://rc.runryder.com/t667131p1/

Now Dusty what was the situation on this earth when God created the flood? Did you read any of the rest of the story? Do you have any idea why God did what he did ?if so please tell us ,if not why do you pass judgment on God?

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10-12-2011 11:16 PM  7 years agoPost 8786
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US Amendment One:
Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I love gravity, it always keeps my feet planted when I fly!

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10-12-2011 11:25 PM  7 years agoPost 8787
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I kinda like to show :

The Prophet Monkey Boy where the Dinosaur is in the Bible " WITH MAn

Just love how man crawled out of the primordial muck as a segmented worm Then to a fish , then to a lizard , then to a kinda bird then to a bird then to beast , then to a mammal, then to a talking mammal.

PS : I want more than 72 Virgins " I want it ALL "

PSS : Lil SKS : SATAN's dope
Better check in with the flying carpet maestro Dusty for some further coaching

The Christos's are coming / The Christos's are coming /

greyeagle

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10-13-2011 02:45 AM  7 years agoPost 8788
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Flood Freeks, we have a theory...
So back in Genesis, the peeps lived over 900 years. Some of them.
The oldest of Record is Mathusilah, at 969 he passed.

Adam and Eve perhaps hundreds of years old.

How bout this: Pre-flood, God had placed a water vapor
canopy above the earth. They had no sun shine save that of
the same reflectivity we see today under total cloud cover.

This canopy protected early man from Cosmic radiation.

The Daylight still produced photosynthesis, and plants grew.
They may have even grown better!

We really don't know. It is a theory just like the one where
an amoeba turns into a man and a woman over billions of years
without a DESIGNER, to become the SINNER he and she are today.

Perhaps God killed all the sinners in the waters of the flood
which lasted over a year prior to subsiding.

But HE DID save some. Eight of them. He saved them FROM
the waters with an ARK.

Today that same Salvation is the Ark of Christ Jesus.

And instead of a mere boat, all we have to do to RECEIVE
the Salvation of God is to get into His Ark, His Boat, His son!

ALL THIS MERELY BY Faith. Faith in God's Message.

Faith in God's Promise of The Resurrection!

Remember the Resurrection of Jesus came AFTER HE DIED FOR OUR SINS.

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10-13-2011 02:49 AM  7 years agoPost 8789
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And if you refuse to believe God's WORD on the matter.....

You will die in the impending Flood, Forever.

Why do THAT when all that God asks of us is to take His Hand
and believe in Him and His SON!

I love gravity, it always keeps my feet planted when I fly!

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10-13-2011 10:00 AM  7 years agoPost 8790
sks

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It's amazing no one commented about that picture.

I know Dennis does not have me on ignore anymore, and Thomas does not have me on ignore.

For concerned viewers don't worry, that dog was not harmed at all. I know this because I have it on good authority from the ranger that Dennis is neutered.

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10-13-2011 10:02 AM  7 years agoPost 8791
sks

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I kinda like to show :

The Prophet Monkey Boy where the Dinosaur is in the Bible " WITH MAn

Just love how man crawled out of the primordial muck as a segmented worm Then to a fish , then to a lizard , then to a kinda bird then to a bird then to beast , then to a mammal, then to a talking mammal.

PS : I want more than 72 Virgins " I want it ALL "

PSS : Lil SKS : SATAN's dope
Better check in with the flying carpet maestro Dusty for some further coaching

The Christos's are coming / The Christos's are coming /
did we say that you could take piano lessons?

no, we did not.

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10-13-2011 10:12 AM  7 years agoPost 8792
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And I responded with verses stating of deceivers that will come and deceive many ,and those who's true belief will be shown to them.yet you continue to ramble on about non-believers not believing?
This is the point that you continually try to avoid. People who never became believers in the first place, are not the same as believers who subsequently ''fall from faith.''
I don't see why you would think the Bible would say that non believers would simply multiply.
I don't know why you would think that I should think that that's what the Bible would say.

If it did say that, then you and BDIS would have a point, because that could indeed be construed as being a prophesy, with respect to what is happening in the world today. Because the Bible doesn't say that, it says ''people fall from faith,'' what is happening today could not be construed as being a prophesy, and you don't have a point - because as I explained, people who ''fall from faith'' are not the same as people who didn't become believers in the first place.
They are on the increase because of those who have fallen away do not pass these values to the next generations.
You are picking a few words, and twisting them to suit your agenda. The words you are twisting are the ones which speak about ''falling from faith.'' You have just twisted them into ''falling away,'' and then introduced the concept of values not being passed onto next generations to try make it sound as if that is what the Bible says. As you should well know, that is not what the Bible says. Quite simply, people who ''fall from faith'' must have had faith in the first place, or else they could not ''fall'' from it. This is another example of you bearing false witness to the Bible, by twisting it's words to suit your agenda. Perhaps you are one of the deceivers that the Bible mentions?
Now Dusty what was the situation on this earth when God created the flood? Did you read any of the rest of the story? Do you have any idea why God did what he did ?if so please tell us ,if not why do you pass judgment on God?
I am not passing judgement at all, nor will I try to justify murder, even though you would like me to try to do so. Do you presume to know the mind of your God? I am simply telling you what the Bible says. Are you going to try to deny that the Bible says that your God drowned everyone (except for the occupants of the ark) on the planet, which of course would have included all babies and children who never had a chance to learn the difference between right and wrong?

If you deny it, you deny that the Bible is literally true. If you accept that your God is a murderer who drowned babies and children who never had the chance to learn the difference between right and wrong, then you accept that the Bible is literally true. So, which is it?

Dusty

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10-13-2011 10:14 AM  7 years agoPost 8793
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How bout this: Pre-flood, God had placed a water vapor
canopy above the earth. They had no sun shine save that of
the same reflectivity we see today under total cloud cover.
This canopy protected early man from Cosmic radiation.
The Daylight still produced photosynthesis, and plants grew.
They may have even grown better!
How 'bout we assign you an animal costume?

Dusty

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10-13-2011 11:31 AM  7 years agoPost 8794
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This is the point that you continually try to avoid
No this is the point you avoid. You ae the only one talking about non- believers. The Bible if up full of passages about becoming cold to their faith, their love for the Lord.

Matthew 13:14-20
14 In their case the prophecy of Isaiah is being fulfilled, which says,
‘ You will keep on hearing, but will not understand;

You will keep on seeing, but will not perceive;

15 For the heart of this people has become dull,

With their ears they scarcely hear,

And they have closed their eyes,

Otherwise they would see with their eyes,

Hear with their ears,

And understand with their heart and return,

And I would heal them. ’

16 But blessed are your eyes, because they see; and your ears, because they hear. 17 For truly I say to you that many prophets and righteous men desired to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it.

The Sower Explained

18 “ Hear then the parable of the sower. 19 When anyone hears the word of the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what has been sown in his heart. This is the one on whom seed was sown beside the road. 20 The one on whom seed was sown on the rocky places, this is the man who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy;

These are some verses talking of falling away. I twist nothing Dusty except the concepts the devil has twisted in your heart.

As far as the flood I deny nothing other then your lack of knowledge of the attributes of God. If you knew this would you know the what,how and why of what happened. As Helicopter said if you fail to see the impending flood you to will be drowned .

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10-13-2011 12:16 PM  7 years agoPost 8795
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Under our human God-given FREE WILL, HE has an agenda.

Do you know what that is?

His Agenda is to redeem some.

The little babies you speak of that God apparently drowned
in the flood, were in His Care. For before knowing sin or
right and wrong, they are precious to Him of course.

What bugs God is Evil.

Continued disobedience, selfishness and the like.

When our hearts are given the GIFT of seeing Jesus Christ
on the Cross, dying for us, and the surrounding horror
of sin, we might have a chance to repent and come to God
for salvation.

It is God's wisdom to KILL His Son on our behalf.

But when you know it all's, keep saying JC my boy, and
there ain't no man named Jesus, and the resurrection is
false, and there is no God to believe in;

YOU MISS GOD.

God's agenda is to grant you, by gift, a NEW LIFE.

EV's call it being BORN AGAIN.

He who has died once will die again,
but he who has died twice will never die.

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10-13-2011 12:24 PM  7 years agoPost 8796
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John 6:65

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10-13-2011 12:48 PM  7 years agoPost 8797
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He who has died once will die again,
but he who has died twice will never die.
click.

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10-13-2011 11:44 PM  7 years agoPost 8798
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Sy:
You got it!!!!!

Click, you're dead.

Without the Savior, there is no hope for you.

Bummer

.
Click

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10-13-2011 11:46 PM  7 years agoPost 8799
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Atheism sucks.

And its irrational and stupid.

IT's foolloowers are dumb too.

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10-13-2011 11:49 PM  7 years agoPost 8800
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U in South London?
http://www.calvarychapelsouthlondon.org/

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