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10-13-2010 02:25 PM  8 years agoPost 521
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10-14-2010 04:04 AM  8 years agoPost 522
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I can tell you a few miners from Chile that surely believe in god lol
Tell you what you should do outhouse.

Why don't you e mail all your concerns about God & the Church that you have expressed to us here to the president of Chile, those rescue workers, and to those 33 miners and their families?

Be sure and let us know how that goes.

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10-14-2010 04:53 AM  8 years agoPost 523
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I can tell you straight up, mankind got those minors out of that hole. Not a miracle, not god, not jesus. An American company went down there and drilled the escape hole and made the escape possible. not god. left in the chilean hands the minors would still be down there. If we waited for god to rescue them they would all be dead.

having family down there and understanding how there culture is wrapped around christianity I would not waist my time down there.

maybe you would be happy if a priest would have wore a big ole outfit like the pope and sprinkled holy water on the escape capsule so god could take credit

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10-14-2010 05:04 AM  8 years agoPost 524
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having family down there and understanding how there culture is wrapped around christianity I would not waist my time down there.
Yeah well, thats pretty much the same you are doing here.
I can tell you straight up, mankind got those minors out of that hole. Not a miracle, not god, not jesus. An American company went down there and drilled the escape hole and made the escape possible. not god. left in the chilean hands the minors would still be down there. If we waited for god to rescue them they would all be dead.
Then, go tell them that.

No balls.

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10-14-2010 06:31 AM  8 years agoPost 525
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nice try dennis you dont get under my skin for half a second lol

converting you to reality would be a waist of time, young impressionable minds who read post like these however are still open to real evidence and or debates.

Not everyone is as old as dirt and set in there ways

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10-14-2010 07:11 AM  8 years agoPost 526
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Not everyone is as old as dirt and set in there ways
With age, comes experience and wisdom.

Of course, a high school drop out, or a God/Church hater would not agree. So, I understand. You and myself bouncing this back and forth obviously will not convince either of us either way. So, lets do it for the entertainment value of others.
converting you to reality would be a waist of time, young impressionable minds who read post like these however are still open to real evidence and or debates.
God and Church haters will never convert many. They might catch a few here and there. But, their hate will drive the majority away as that is, as a general rule, not what people choose.

Your so called "Real Evidence" can be twisted in so many ways when in actuality, there can be absolutely no compatibility between Faith and Science for obvious reasons you are quite blind to. In other words, science cannot prove that Faith does not work or is a waste of time. No way. No how. Same as Faith cannot dis prove of science that actually does exist.

Ask those miners in Chile how they feel about that. Tell them their prayers are and were a total waste of time and energy and no one was listening anyway. Tell their children that their prayers to the angles to bring Daddy home safe were a waste of time and ineffectual and angles do not, and never have, exited and their parents lied to them. Tell their Mothers and Fathers their prayers to God to bring their Sons home safely were a waste of time and no one was listening.

Just think, if you went out and told the world what you say here on this little old Heli forum, you would be famous. Thousands of atheists and agnostics would want to hug and kiss you. You could write a book and make new friends. You might even get rich and famous.

No balls.

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10-14-2010 11:15 AM  8 years agoPost 527
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Another day From God! But it is still counting down 5, 4, 3 you get the picture

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10-14-2010 01:05 PM  8 years agoPost 528
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Interesting thing about Christianity -vs- Islam.

A Christian martyr dies helping the needy.
A Muslim martyr dies killing infidels.

Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep

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10-14-2010 06:07 PM  8 years agoPost 529
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10-14-2010 06:51 PM  8 years agoPost 530
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With age, comes experience and wisdom.
Not always LOL not always.
God and Church haters will never convert many
this is where your ignorance shines bright, I dont hate an imaginary charactor and the church does do good things. You are pretty much wrong on all counts.
Your so called "Real Evidence" can be twisted in so many ways
Nope it cant, evolution is not in debate scientificaly, not at all.
wrong again grandpa
no compatibility between Faith and Science
again the most closed minded statement you have made that shows enough ignorance for the whole forum. Science is compatible, it does not go after you and try to change your personal beliefs. The bible is full of mistakes even you admit this, does this make you not compatible with the bible? becasue science proves things a old religous wives tale got wrong doesnt mean science is not compatible.

it is religion that is stubborn to a fictional book written by man for man, Its followers hold on to despite fiction being quite evident.
Tell them their prayers are and were a total waste of time
It was not a waist of time because there faith made them feel good, it gave them hope, it gave them the light at the end of tunnel. but in the end it was man who saved them. It shows how petty you are sir to try and use this tragedy for your personal needs in a public forum debate.[very weak debating skills sir] The bible should be used as it was ment to be used, it is a good guide for those who have nothing, only people with loose screws use it for there own agenda and missinterpet its use, trying to turn it into a history book. It was written and used for political gain as much as it was a personal spiritual guide when it was written.

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10-14-2010 07:01 PM  8 years agoPost 531
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Another day From God! But it is still counting down 5, 4, 3 you get the picture
your days are always counting down from the day you were born. religion has nothing to do with this.

using fear to sell christianity works for the uneducated, if you peddled this in africa or other overpopulated improverished areas of the world you might do pretty good.

In a highly educated country you fail

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10-14-2010 07:02 PM  8 years agoPost 532
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10-14-2010 07:09 PM  8 years agoPost 533
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A Christian martyr dies helping the needy.
A Muslim martyr dies killing infidels.
that would be great if we were debating religions. This is a debate on evolution not one on faith or muslim trash.

after 2000 years of christian murders and abuse and robbery! it amazes me that people think a 100 years of positive christian involvement in the world makes up for all the bad done in the past.

its funny how the christian religion changed dramaticaly as the world became more educated and grew out of the dirt into modern times.

the interpetation of the bible has changed over the last 2000+ years and it directly changes to the government in power.

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10-14-2010 07:19 PM  8 years agoPost 534
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http://vimeo.com/13726978

this explains why, when and where the bible was created

it also shows the clear path in which the old testament was stolen from egypt as well as why all religions use the same basic story of father and son and why they all were born dec 25th thousands of years before jesus was imagined

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10-14-2010 07:28 PM  8 years agoPost 535
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Nope it cant, evolution is not in debate scientificaly, not at all.
wrong again grandpa
That depends totally on who you are talking to and which scientist. There are biblical scientists as well that would strenuously dis agree with the other evolution scientists.
It was not a waist of time because there faith made them feel good, it gave them hope, it gave them the light at the end of tunnel.
Thats what Faith in God is all about.
It shows how petty you are sir to try and use this tragedy for your personal needs in a public forum debate.
Thats the same thing you are doing by simply responding.

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10-14-2010 07:59 PM  8 years agoPost 536
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That depends totally on who you are talking to and which scientist. There are biblical scientists as well that would strenuously dis agree with the other evolution scientists.
biblical scientist are not mainstream scientist and only constitute a fraction of scientist. None are involved in evolution in any way shape or form.

every aspect of there work has no real merit and is easily dissproven.

they also habe no credability among real scientist

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10-14-2010 08:11 PM  8 years agoPost 537
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biblical scientist are not mainstream scientist and only constitute a fraction of scientist. None are involved in evolution in any way shape or form.

every aspect of there work has no real merit and is easily dissproven.

they also habe no credability among real scientist
Of course, thats what some evolutionary scientists would say. Thats very obvious and I would think you could come up with a better response than that.

Biblical scholars ARE recognized within the bible community. Evolutionary scientists ARE recognized in evolutionary community. Since they directly oppose each other, its obvious some would not recognize the other. Not all. But some. Most would probably respect each other for the long road to their educational accomplishments. Something you might consider for yourself.

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10-14-2010 08:36 PM  8 years agoPost 538
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Of course, thats what some evolutionary scientists would say
No that is what any mainstream scientist would say evolutionary or not.
Biblical scholars ARE recognized within the bible community. Evolutionary scientists ARE recognized in evolutionary community
yes but evolutionary scientist are recoganized among all scientest as to where biblical are kept in the fiction dpt where they belong. they are a very very small part of the big picture and again proven to be not credible at all.
Most would probably respect each other for the long road to their educational accomplishments
biblical scientist still accomplish real science, when it comes to evolution they are laughed apon

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10-14-2010 08:42 PM  8 years agoPost 539
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No that is what any mainstream scientist would say evolutionary or not.
No, thats what YOU just said.
yes but evolutionary scientist are recoganized among all scientest as to where biblical are kept in the fiction dpt where they belong. they are a very very small part of the big picture and again proven to be not credible at all.
BS
biblical scientist still accomplish real science, when it comes to evolution they are laughed apon
Yes, I am sure all your evolution scientist pals that you hang with put out a lot of respect for others. Much like yourself.

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10-14-2010 08:56 PM  8 years agoPost 540
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he more you fight it, the deeper you have dug your hole.

So how reliable is the Bible chapter that relates to evolution? Let's leave aside the long-standing evidence that Earth is older than 6000 years and that there was no world-wide flood, and look at what else Genesis says.

Genesis 1 gives the order of creation as plants, animals, man and woman. Genesis 2 gives it as man, plants, animals and woman. Genesis 1:3-5 says light was created on the first day, Genesis 1:14-19 says the sun was created on the fourth. Genesis 7:2 says Noah took seven pairs of each beast, Genesis 7:8-15 says one pair.

The list goes on. The fruit of the tree of knowledge is said to kill within a day of being eaten, yet Adam and Eve don't die after eating it. Genesis says there were giants (Nephilim) before the flood and that the flood annihilated all creatures other than those on the ark, but Numbers says there were giants after the flood.

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