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04-20-2011 01:50 PM  7 years agoPost 5261
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The entire history of science is that nothing in science is ever settled. New discoveries are continuously made, and they upend old certainties.

That should be obvious.
there are certainties: the sun is the sun, and the earth orbits it. Progress has mostly been refinements of old theories or broadening of view of the situation.

Atoms are still atoms, so are electrons, now or thousands of years previously etc. . . so your comments are ignorant to say the least.

Newton and Darwin will be remembered thousands of years from now, and their work will STILL be valid. Your belief in a God that doesn't show Himself, however, is another matter entirely.

Oh, and you were utterly awful in the film. That has the most p*ss poor acting performance I've ever seen. You didn't even had a large part and you still messed it up.

Dusty, we better dart Dennis again, I hear Afghan zoo wants him.

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04-20-2011 01:54 PM  7 years agoPost 5262
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Newton and Darwin will be remembered thousands of years from now, and their work will STILL be valid
Oh, I see. You wish to predict thousands of years into the future the validity of evolution ????

Most scientists will predict how foolish that statement is by their own experience.

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04-20-2011 02:03 PM  7 years agoPost 5263
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You wish to predict thousands of years into the future the validity of evolution
what? Is the tranquilizers still not worn off yet?

Tell me, raccoon, do you think an atom now is the same as it was if we were having this conversation 2000, 3000 years ago, or thousands of years into the future?

I don't need to predict. The validity of evolution has never really been contested in the strict sense. It has been discredited by those who see fit to discredit it due to their own intellectual shortcomings and their deluded, moronic thinking.

But, no, evolution is as apparent as atoms, electrons and that dart that's going your way, loaded with enough chemicals to knock out an elephant. or a bear as the case may be.

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04-20-2011 02:13 PM  7 years agoPost 5264
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I don't need to predict. The validity of evolution has never really been contested in the strict sense. It has been discredited by those who see fit to discredit it due to their own intellectual shortcomings and their deluded, moronic thinking.
Another very good example of the cult of atheism's intolerance, hate, anger, and raging arrogance.

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04-20-2011 02:20 PM  7 years agoPost 5265
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victim alert!!!
raging arrogance
what raging arrogance?

Would you call Newton as having raging arrogance when he put forward his laws or did calculations which NO ONE else at the time could do? Was he arrogant?

there's a difference between telling the truth and the way people see it being delivered. If you want to shoot the messenger, fine, that's your choice. I have no problem with that: it doesn't, however, take away the validity of the message.

that's what you don't get.

drdot gets my humour - but he's too busy with llamas or something like that, not that the forestry department need know. And I've never actually see a bear rehearse his lines before, but there's always a first time. And gforce2011, we don't need your services: you're in the wrong film!!!

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04-20-2011 03:04 PM  7 years agoPost 5266
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Would you call Newton as having raging arrogance when he put forward his laws or did calculations which NO ONE else at the time could do? Was he arrogant?
No, just atheists here on RR.

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04-20-2011 06:24 PM  7 years agoPost 5267
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Would you call Newton as having raging arrogance
I think those religious nutters are still trying to find Newton so they can lynch him lol

that were not happy Galileo was only put on house arrest until he died for telling the church the sun does not revolve around the earth.

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04-20-2011 06:28 PM  7 years agoPost 5268
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so your comments are ignorant to say the least.

Newton and Darwin will be remembered thousands of years from now, and their work will STILL be valid. Your belief in a God that doesn't show Himself, however, is another matter entirely
that is so true, anyone who bashes science is a fool because there lives depend on it. not on a 3000 year old myth.

it took man a long time to figure out how the natural proccess on earth plays out, and religious fools want us to go back deeper to the dark age because we still have more to learn.

admit defeat, religious nutters are still trying to dumb down america

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04-20-2011 06:28 PM  7 years agoPost 5269
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Dusty, we better dart Dennis again, I hear Afghan zoo wants him.
Didn't you dart him again just there?

Perhaps he's got the devil in him now, and the darts are having no effect.

And gforce2011, we don't need your services: you're in the wrong film!!!
Ya never know. Perhaps he'll work his way up from the cutting room to a starring role.

Dusty

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04-20-2011 06:34 PM  7 years agoPost 5270
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One more time to state a fact of science and to drive the atheists cult members batty:

The entire history of science is that nothing in science is ever settled. New discoveries are continuously made, and they upend old certainties.

That should be obvious.

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04-20-2011 06:38 PM  7 years agoPost 5271
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No, just atheists here on RR.
Just for a moment, consider the facts, rather than your opinion.

Throughout history, man has put what he can't explain down to some God or other, and has been proved wrong every time. We know that the sun isn't a God, nor does it need a chariot to pull it across the sky, and we know that thunder and lightening aren't caused by Thor's anger. Etc etc etc.

Quiet apart from the moral high ground that Christians think they stand on, to continue to not only believe in such a deity, but to believe that you will be given an afterlife, that will be denied to those who don't believe in the particular deity that you believe in, is about as arrogant as you can get.

While we would rather discuss the topic, rather than spend time having to explain to you just how arrogant your position is, sometimes I guess you have to be cruel to be kind. Even though they don't know it, raccoons are often darted for their own good.

Dusty

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04-20-2011 06:43 PM  7 years agoPost 5272
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The entire history of science is that nothing in science is ever settled. New discoveries are continuously made, and they upend old certainties.
Oh dear, you're back to repeating the same thing again and again.

This is a very simple matter, and sks provided a very simple answer, obviously in the hope that even you might understand. Here it is again:
sks:
there are certainties: the sun is the sun, and the earth orbits it.
Do you understand this? Do you think there's even the slightest chance that these facts are incorrect, and that some day we might find out the the sun is not the sun, or that the earth doesn't orbit it?

Dusty

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04-20-2011 06:46 PM  7 years agoPost 5273
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The entire history of science is that nothing in science is ever settled. New discoveries are continuously made, and they upend old certainties.
not true, actually.

it's all about levels of precision and how well defined you want things to be. For example water is water, regardless of how we see it. It has always run along the course of least resistance. The fact that we eventually found out that it was composed of many molecules do not alter the hydrodynamical properties we found out about it previously, but rather allowed us to understand it more in precise terms not possible by previous methods.

The process of theory refinement is done by empirical verification and refereeing by experts etc. . . you think that science doesn't have a clue or that it's subject to change and therefore cannot be relied upon to "disprove" God etc. . . which was never it's point.

You want Darwin or Newton to be overthrown and declared rubbish so you can still have some credibility for your "faith". It doesn't work like that - never did. Darwin settled it, and as a consequence the questioning of your "faith" is one of the many implications that it, unfortunately, leads to.

It's ironic that you should think that science is always changing etc in the way you say it does: it doesn't. If it did there would be no real body of knowledge that we could rely on: our internet, cars, planes, etc. . . would not work and hence would need to be redesigned/reconceptualised to make way for these newer "theories" as you suggest. It's not the case - and never has been.

Dusty, outhouse, I'm tired of this. Just ring up the producers and tell them I think Dennis is a p*ss poor actor and get some other person to play the gondolier.
No, just atheists here on RR.
I'm not an atheist, never have been. And your talk about science is rather odd considering that outhouse is just quoting the written stuff and all the historical documents and records that lead up to the forming of the Bible, and how all it was all dubiously done. If you can't accept another person's independent research, and he can verify it for you in person, then there's obviously something wrong with you.

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04-20-2011 07:42 PM  7 years agoPost 5274
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racoon you have been outdone again
The entire history of science is that nothing in science is ever settled. New discoveries are continuously made, and they upend old certainties.

That should be obvious.
yes science corrects itself unlike religion that is stale and stagnent.

like it or not science is the best you have, when you have a heart attack very very soon it is science that is working on perfecting its methods that will save your life. not a ancient jewish myth with a man made god figure.

so what is the alternative to science Mr racoon????

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04-20-2011 07:44 PM  7 years agoPost 5275
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that is so true, anyone who bashes science is a fool because there lives depend on it. not on a 3000 year old myth.
it's actually worse than that, outhouse. They're not just fools, they f@£@$@ hypocrites. Total, utter, hypocrites.

Now, where's that script, and why hasn't Thomas agreed to play Tadzio yet?

helicopter to Thomas: Tadzio, Tadzio, wherefore art thou Tadzio - oops, wrong film . . .

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04-20-2011 08:02 PM  7 years agoPost 5276
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so what is the alternative to science
Nobody is bashing science. Science is a great thing to make all our lives better, longer, to discover new things, and to update/correct old science.

The only ones that bash science are the nutjobs that think science has ALL the answers to the beginnings of man. Of course, those would be the hateful, anger filled and raging arrogant cult like atheists on RR that have turned into nothing but evangelistic evolutionist wackos.

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04-20-2011 08:32 PM  7 years agoPost 5277
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The only ones that bash science are the nutjobs that think science has ALL the answers to the beginnings of man
obviously a pollen sniffer like you would never understand what the word SUFFICIENT means, eh?

What does the word SUFFICIENT mean, exactly? Look it up.

If the Bible says the the earth is flat, and someone proves that the earth is round, that's enough to say that the Bible has lied is it not?

If the Bible says that the sun orbits the earth and some astronomer finds out otherwise is that not sufficient to say that the Bible has lied yet again?

No proper scientist will EVER say he has all the answers because then NO ONE would need to do any research now, would we?

I don't care about what happened before the BIG BANG, if God started it or not etc. . . What concerns outhouse, me and Dusty is that the Bible is full of lies and you're worshiping something that doesn't - and never has - made any sense or had any shred of credibility.

Darwin's work is sufficient for you to question the validity of your faith - that is all.

And Thomas, helicopter's got his eye on you. I'd watch out if I were you.

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04-20-2011 08:39 PM  7 years agoPost 5278
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No proper scientist will EVER say he has all the answers because then NO ONE would need to do any research now, would we?
The only thing is that arm chair scientists here claim they DO have all the answers.

Of course, they don't. Not here. Here they are just propagating a hate filled, angry, and raging arrogant cult of intolerant dipsh#ts.

Nobody knows about the beginning of man. Never have. Never will.

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04-20-2011 08:56 PM  7 years agoPost 5279
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Nobody knows about the beginning of man. Never have. Never will.
if you are talking about the beginning of man as regards who made the universe, caused the big bang, atoms, electrons and other elementary particles into being - then yes, we don't know.

If you are talking about whether man evolved from simple cellular life forms, then the answer to that is not in dispute. Darwin solved it and further advancement in science is sufficient to put the answer in the affirmative.

Man evolved from apes. Whether you like that or not is of no concern to me. It's the truth.
The only thing is that arm chair scientists here claim they DO have all the answers.
by your remark, you show yourself to be unable to reason and deduce. If you want to shoot the messenger that's fine by me - that's your problem not mine.

You wouldn't know good research if it slapped you in the face.

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04-20-2011 09:10 PM  7 years agoPost 5280
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If you want to shoot the messenger that's fine by me
Bang

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