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04-19-2011 04:15 AM  7 years agoPost 5241
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Just almost !
Outhouse: aka - The New Unabridged Addition = Toilet Bowel

Displaying more and more of your prideful- touted and boasted Biblical Education.

Again witness to your lack of understanding and reading comprehension of the Gospel. You - never - ever did learn anything from your deep studies of the Gospel did you ?? Feel safe you are allowed to repeat the lesson's until you get it

You only get 50% Still a D - grade.

You left a Floater : AGAIN !!! " Please : flush twice "

"the dumb crazy guy who walked into the city and caused trouble knowing they would kill him, is not worth celebrating"

Jesus of Nazareth : { KING } = King of the Jew's did not walk in !

He rode in : "Actually about 1.8 miles" on the back of a fole donkey ! That's a baby donkey People recognized him as the True King !!! The Messiah :

Seem's he gathered a bit of attention in doing so "just to make a point" ---- the reason for doing so ! If you know the Bible : Good Ole Jesus is always making a subtle point with many such a activity - kinda a good humor trademark -- book is full of them -- got to look for them. Some are pretty humorous.

Causing Trouble : That one is a understatement !!! Very good !

The Jewish Politicians went just ape !!! For fear of losing their power over the citizen's. That's one of the best stories in the Bible !!! Roman Centurion's get involved, another King get's evolved, a close friend rat's him out, all sort's of trumped up charges get levied against him from the Jewish lawmaker's in town.

Side Note: SKS { We got a APE Yet ??? ""

Yes - Do give a bit of partial credit though : {

: """Celebrate Easter """

Please use lot's of Egg's and Lot's of candy and toy's for the baby bear cub's and the scores of kitten raccoon's !!!

Jesus has a special place & love for children !!!!

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Whoop's I almost MISSED IT !!!!

How could I ??? {{{ """Doubting Thomas """ }}} Oh !!

Man that their is Bonus Point's

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04-19-2011 06:39 AM  7 years agoPost 5242
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Jesus of Nazareth
you dont know the first thing about such a person.

its not even a %100 that he ever existed at all! let along that he rode a donkey

even the best of right wing scholars can say with certainty is that --- "there was a hellenistic traveling jew teacher who ticked off the pharisees and was put to death on a cross by romans"

thats it,, thats all that is really known and that is up for serious debate!

so ride that baby donkey yourself and get a education you furry pet lol

everything written about such a person was done so by not one eye witness

not one person who wrote anything about him never met jebus

most writing was done hundreds of years after his death.

only parts of the 4 canonical books that survive today go back to roughly 30-40 AD and were written down ONLY after being told around campfires for 20 years by jews
Jesus has a special place & love for children !!!!
ya and i wish he would quit telling the preachers about love and children cause the priest have been showing the kids a little bit to good of a time. sickos

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04-19-2011 11:09 AM  7 years agoPost 5243
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I'm out until my agent works his deal
Thomas, you are a total, utter disgrace to the acting profession. A job's a job, you know how hard it is to find decent roles. Besides, this part might make you.

What's the matter, Easter party season keeping you busy?
SKS { We got a APE Yet ???
'fraid not. For one, I don't like them, and most kids I know don't either.

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04-19-2011 11:09 AM  7 years agoPost 5244
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ya and i wish he would quit telling the preachers about love and children cause the priest have been showing the kids a little bit to good of a time. sickos
You sound as if you were hurt by someone at an early age.My panda sense tells me you have much anger here.

You love to throw this crap out all the time . I would venture the guess that more non-priest-atheist types molest small children then priest even if you discount the priest-people ratio. so just take that thought and spin it in your bowl for a while and see what it gets you.

We are ALL sinners but ALL of us can be forgiven if we only ask.

This is not to say that all is ever forgotten though.

We all WILL have to pay the consequences for our sin.

Now or later no matter we will ALL pay up in the end!!!!

SKS my agent is calling you every day but you dont answer no contract no movie for me

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04-19-2011 02:24 PM  7 years agoPost 5245
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Saving GRACE is the teaching from Genesis to the Revelation!
So you say, but the last passage you quoted didn't stand up to scrutiny. Is that the best you could do?
One more note: First Timothy 5:3-17 is all about taking care of widows, be they mothers, or neighbors.
Yes, but because it quite clearly says that if you don't take care of them, then you have denied the faith and are worse than an infidel. If you don't think that infidels get saved, then how would you explain that someone who is worse than an infidel would be saved?

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04-19-2011 02:37 PM  7 years agoPost 5246
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You love to throw this crap out all the time . I would venture the guess that more non-priest-atheist types molest small children then priest even if you discount the priest-people ratio. so just take that thought and spin it in your bowl for a while and see what it gets you.
The thing is though, it's not crap. What group of people, entrusted to look after children, and who are part of an organisation that enables them to do so, would you like to compare these priests and the church with?

School teachers or social workers perhaps? Then of course to be comparable, their organisation, be it school board or social work department or whatever, would have had to have tried to cover the crimes up.

Somehow, I don't think you'll find any trusted group of people and their organisation, who are more guilty of child molesting, than these priests and the Catholic church. Not even close.

And you try to defend them?

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04-19-2011 05:44 PM  7 years agoPost 5247
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[quote]And you try to defend them?
read my typing!! I am defending no person or persons here!!
If it was up to me (which it is not) I would take any person that hurts a child out and have then horse whipped

But to discredit a group because it has a few bad apples in it when the group giving the discredit has just as many if not more bad apples in it just shows their self ignorance.
What group of people, entrusted to look after children, and who are part of an organisation that enables them to do so, would you like to compare these priests and the church with?
The biggest count of those molesting children are those who are part of or associated with the education systems throughout the world.

The church doesn't defend these people . They remove them from their service just as any of those discovered in a education system would.

Percentage wise the church problem is lees then the rest of the world but not any less a problem. Man's sin nature is the same in all of us. Yes even you Dusty

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04-19-2011 06:47 PM  7 years agoPost 5248
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that's rich, Thomas, coming from someone who's about to play the part of a boy who becomes the object of another man's obsession.

outhouse was just referring to the hypocrisy that he sees, and how all the "data" doesn't stack up. But you lot just fill in the gaps with your imagination don't you?

I have been speaking with your agent by the way, and he says you'll do it, but there have been complaints from the Christian community regarding the nature of the role and what it represents.

We'll have to talk about this later.

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04-19-2011 06:59 PM  7 years agoPost 5249
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this I take exception to . . . .
We are ALL sinners but ALL of us can be forgiven if we only ask.
No, we're not. That's an ethical misconception you have because you can't think for yourself. Like, it's not sin that causes an author like Thomas Mann to write about a man's growing homosexual feelings when he goes to Venice for a health stay.
This is not to say that all is ever forgotten though.

We all WILL have to pay the consequences for our sin.
Yes, I know. I saw Death in Venice once, and no doubt about it, Jesus is going to send me to Hell for watching it. How dare I do the things that I shouldn't.
Now or later no matter we will ALL pay up in the end!!!!
Exactly, Thomas, if you don't take that role you'll regret it for the rest of your life. You won't be remembered, your grandkid's friends are going to ask your grand children: what did he do? Oh, he just dressed as a panda and entertained us. Instead of, see that amazing film: he was in it!!!!!

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04-19-2011 09:41 PM  7 years agoPost 5250
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Jesus is going to send me to Hell
Is good to see you are finally getting it just remember it is by your choice not his

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04-19-2011 09:57 PM  7 years agoPost 5251
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^^^^

no, it's not. I had no influence on the casting director. I wanted to play one of the violinists but ended up cast as the hotel manager.

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04-20-2011 12:58 AM  7 years agoPost 5252
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Jesus is going to send me to Hell
if jebus was even real

he is nothing but dust and bones

dust and bones

the resurrection was a known myth created by hellenistic jews

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04-20-2011 01:24 AM  7 years agoPost 5253
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read my typing!! I am defending no person or persons here!!
Attempting to play down the significance of this scandal, is consistent with the actions of someone who is defending it.
But to discredit a group because it has a few bad apples in it when the group giving the discredit has just as many if not more bad apples in it just shows their self ignorance.
That is not only incorrect, but in fact the opposite is true.

First of all, consider the amount of time the average priest spends in charge of children compared to say, the average teacher. Now consider how many more teachers there are in the world compared to priests, and it should be obvious that it would be very surprising indeed if the number of child sex abuse allegations made against teachers was not significantly higher than against priests. I wonder though, how many of those teachers were Christians, and in particular, Catholics?

As for your allegation regarding atheists, consider the U.S. prison statistics by religion, from the Federal Bureau of Statistics:
Catholic 29267 39.164%
Protestant 26162 35.008%
Muslim 5435 7.273%
American Indian 2408 3.222%
Nation 1734 2.320%
Rasta 1485 1.987%
Jewish 1325 1.773%
Church of Christ 1303 1.744%
Pentecostal 1093 1.463%
Moorish 1066 1.426%
Buddhist 882 1.180%
Jehovah Witness 665 0.890%
Adventist 621 0.831%
Orthodox 375 0.502%
Mormon 298 0.399%
Scientology 190 0.254%
Atheist 156 0.209%
Hindu 119 0.159%
Santeria 117 0.157%
Sikh 14 0.019%
Bahai 9 0.012%
Krishna 7 0.009%
When it's clear that there are very few incarcerated atheists, it is illogical to allege that they have ''just as many if not more bad apples'' in relation to any crime. Why would you do so?

It's been suggested in this thread before that atheist prisoners would claim to be Christians to try to increase their chances of parole. If that was true though, why are there more Catholics in the statistics than there are protestants, when there are so many more protestants than Catholics in the U.S.?

Someone who wants to give the impression that he is going to work hard and lead a good life so that he will achieve salvation, would surely look better in the eyes of the parole board, than someone who believed that he would achieve salvation even if he re-offended.

Therefore, if it was true that a significant number of prisoners lied about their religion to achieve parole, then the best category to pick would be protestant. But the statistics do not reflect this at all.

What the statistics do tell us is that per capita, not only are there very few atheists in jail, but that there are many more Catholics than there are protestants in jail. Given that there are so many more protestant churches in the U.S. than there are Catholic churches, why do you think that the scandal involved only the Catholic Church? The answer is obvious. Catholics commit more crime in general, so child sex abuse is no exception. The filthy priests, along with all the other Catholic criminals, think they will achieve salvation no matter how many crimes they commit. Perhaps it's the fact that they consider themselves to have a sinful nature that draws them to the Catholic denomination in the first place.

Hartford Institute estimates there are roughly 335,000 religious congregations in the United States. Of those, about 300,000 are Protestant and other Christian churches, and 22,000 are Catholic and Orthodox churches.

http://hirr.hartsem.edu/research/fa...ts.html#numcong
The church doesn't defend these people . They remove them from their service just as any of those discovered in a education system would.
Wrong. There are several examples of exactly this having happened.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_sex_abuse_cases
Man's sin nature is the same in all of us.
This is what we always hear from Christians who believe that we are 'Adamic' If one does more good than evil, would that not mean that it's is one's nature to do good, rather than to sin?

It's all about good and evil with you guys. In reality, it's not so black and white. Just because you may have committed a minor sin, such as honking your horn at someone on the road who doesn't really deserve it, doesn't mean that you would commit a major sin such as murder.

Just because nobody is perfect, does not mean that it is our nature to be sinful. The worst offenders are of course the very people who believe that it is our nature to be sinful. Really though, that shouldn't be any surprise, nor should it be a surprise that the scandal in question involved the Catholic church rather than any other organisation.

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04-20-2011 04:55 AM  7 years agoPost 5254
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fwiw..

Does this mean I'm in trouble because of my Alpaca fetish?....Seriously, it's interesting that there seem to be no Deists in the slammer...

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04-20-2011 08:38 AM  7 years agoPost 5255
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Are Christians "Anti-Science?

Not at all. Science has many Christian roots. Most of the early scientists were Christians (Copernicus, Galileo, Pascal, Isaac Newton, Carl Linnaeus, Johannes Keppler, Robert Boyle, Louis Pasteur, Jean Henri Fabre, Michael Faraday, John Ambrose Fleming, etc.). The faith of these great scientists was not a separate part of their thinking; indeed, it was integral to their thinking as they operated within a Christian framework. (See the book How You Think the Way You Do by historian Glenn S. Sunshine.)

An interesting fact is that the vast majority of all scientific development has come out of western civilization, which has Christianity as its basis. Christianity views God as rational and trustworthy, which implies that His creation is rational and orderly and thus can be examined. Nature in the Christian view (as compared to non-Christian worldviews) was no longer an object of fear and worship.

The idea of laws of nature came from Christianity. And the concepts of subduing nature and being stewards of nature are right from the first book of the Bible—Genesis.

As D. James Kennedy suggests, science could not have begun in the Buddhist or Hindu worlds. The essence of those religions is that the physical world has no reality, that it is an illusion. Scientific inquiry requires the assumption that the world is real. Nor could science have begun in the Muslim world because that worldview is dominated by fatalism, and fatalism is antithetical to the concept of progress.

Here's another interesting aspect to Islam, according to historian Glenn Sunshine in his book Why You Think the Way You Do. While Muslim scholars excelled at practical learning such as geography or astronomy, they did not develop science in the sense of explanations of why the physical world works the way it does. This was in part because Muslim thinkers taught that seeking explanations of physical processes was either not possible or inappropriate. It was argued that the very idea that natural laws exist was blasphemous because it denied Allah's freedom to govern the universe as he saw fit. Indeed, Muslims who might challenge the Quran with scientific thinking were considered infidels and it was obligatory for all good Muslims to kill infidels.

Misconceptions about the Bible have been around for a long time. For example, one misconception is that the Bible teaches that the earth is flat, or that it is the center of the universe. A closer examination of Scripture shows otherwise. The idea of a flat earth from the Bible is rooted in the biblical language of "four corners" in Isaiah 11:12 and Revelation 7:1, and "four winds" in Jeremiah 49:36 and Matthew 24:31. The Hebrew and Greek words translated "corner" are also translated as "quarter" and are best understood as "directions" or "headings." The Bible's usage obviously refers to the four directions as measured from the particular focal point of interest and is the standard convention used in surveying and mapping to this day. Moreover, in Isaiah 40:22 the Bible uses the term the "circle of the earth," also translated "sphere of the earth" as is evident from the context.

It can be said that Christianity has produced more literate and educated people than any other movement in the history of mankind. For example, in America all but 3 of the first 126 colleges established in the United States were built in order to propagate the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

The Bible was not written as a science textbook. But, when the Bible does reveal truths related to science, the Bible can be trusted. Indeed, the Bible demonstrates scientific knowledge and concepts far before mankind had developed the technological base for such knowledge.

Biologist William J. Cairney (in the book edited by John Warwick Montgomery) discusses many such biblical pre-science evidences in the fields of human health, disease control, agriculture, etc. He states, "These rules of sanitation and diet stand on a foundation requiring considerable knowledge of epidemiology, microbiology, physiology, plant pathology, and animal pathology, all of which require a technological base not available until the last hundred years or so of human history."

Henry Morris (in Appendix 8 of his Defender's Study Bible) lists numerous other pre-science evidences in the Bible.

When pressed, even the most hardened atheistic scientists acknowledge that science and the supernatural are compatible. See this link for a most revealing summary from a debate between Christian Frank Turek and atheist Christopher Hitchens: Big Bang and God.

So-called conflicts of science and the Bible are often conflicts between interpretations of the facts. While there are questions for which there are as yet no explanation, there is no fundamental conflict between science and Scripture.

Dinesh D'Souza in his book What's So Great About Christianity thoroughly refutes the notion of past conflicts between science and the church. He shows that the Galileo affair, perhaps the most famous, and other alleged disputes are a red herring.

Further, D'Souza details the consistency with modern science and the Bible. For example, he demonstrates that, "In a stunning confirmation of the book of Genesis, modern scientists have discovered that the universe was created in a primordial explosion of energy and light...." He notes that the Bible is unique among the documents of ancient history—and especially unique among religious documents—in positing an absolute beginning of the universe. But now modern science tells us that the Bible is right!

D'Souza adds: "The Big Bang resolves one of the apparent contradictions in the book of Genesis. For more than two centuries, critics of the Bible have pointed out that in the beginning—on the first day—God created light. Then on the fourth day God separated the night from the day. The problem is pointed out by philosopher Leo Strauss: 'Light is presented as preceding the sun.' Christians have long struggled to explain this anomaly....but it turns out that there is no mistake. The universe was created in a burst of light fifteen billion years ago. Our sun and our planet came into existence billions of years later. So light did indeed precede the sun. The first reference to light in Genesis 1:3 can be seen to refer to the Big Bang itself. The separation of the day and the night described in Genesis 1:4 clearly refers to the formation of the sun and the earth. Day and night—which we experience as a result of the earth's rotation—were created much later than the universe itself. The Genesis enigma is solved, and its account of the creation is vindicated not as some vague parable but as a strikingly accurate account of how the universe came to be."

More importantly, while we live in a time of change and of great scientific discovery, what we discover about the human heart is that it has not changed at all. Matters of human nature, emotions, relationships, and ultimate meaning remain the same. It is in Scripture that we find enduring truths as appropriate for modern man as for ancient man.

http://www.faithfacts.org/search-fo...ns-anti-science

see also - Common Misconceptions about Christianity
http://www.faithfacts.org/search-fo...ut-Christianity

For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind. 2 Tim 1:7

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How the Bible and Evolution Conflict
An Analysis of the Tension Between Two Worldviews

Let's first make the point that the tension between the Bible and evolution is not at all about the age of the earth! Authors Timothy Martin and Jeffrey Vaughn, in their book Beyond Creation Science, argue that the majority view of Christians throughout the ages has been that the Bible teaches an old earth. They quote, for example, St. Augustine, considered the top theologian in the early Christian age, as saying in his ancient book titled The Literal Meaning of Genesis: "But at least we know that it [the creation day] is different from the ordinary day with which we are familiar." While some Christians hold to a literal 6-day creation, even these do not necessarily hold to a young earth view, believing that the creation week happened billions of years ago.

The tension between evolution and creation is philosophical not scientific. Here are some points:

Creationism and evolutionism begin from two radically different points. Creation: In the beginning there was God. Evolution: In the beginning there was random chance.

Darwinian doctrine insists that the evolution of life is a random process—that we are here by a series of pure accidents (e.g., mutations, and molecules in motion, gene recombinations and duplications). This is in direct conflict with the biblical doctrine of election—that life is not merely a series of accidents. According to the Bible, each believer is in some sense individually foreknown and chosen by God from before the foundations of the world. (1 Samuel 16:7-12; Psalm 139:16; Jeremiah 1:5; Matthew 24:31, 25:34; Romans 8:29-30; 1 Corinthians 2:7; Galatians 1:15; Ephesians 1:4-12; 2 Thessalonians 2:13; 1 Peter 1:1-2, 2:9)

The God of the Bible is more than Creator and Savior. He is also Sustainer. With evolution, life is a self-sustaining process ruled by fate, and God plays no role in the universe or in the ongoing lives of men. This contradicts the biblical doctrine of providence—that all things happen under the authority of God, and that God is still at work sustaining (though not re-creating) His creation. (Genesis 45:7-8, Nehemiah 9:6; Esther 4:14; Psalm 104:30, 145:16, 147:9; Proverbs 16:9,33, Isaiah 45:1,7, 46:10; Matthew 6:26, 10:29-31; John 5:17, 14:16-17, 15:26, 16:13-15; Acts 17:26, 18:9-11; Romans 8:9-11; Colossians 1:17, Hebrews 1:3)

Still another aspect of the God of the Bible is that He is Judge. The Bible makes a major point of an afterlife in heaven or hell. Indeed, Jesus discusses this concept more than any other biblical figure. As part of the process of ultimate judgment by God, a new type of resurrection body will emerge to another life—to either be glorified in heaven or condemned to hell for eternity. Evolution is in great conflict with this view, including the fact that the physical cannot evolve into an afterlife. (Matthew 5:22,29,30, 23:33, 24:31; Romans 8:23; 1 Corinthians 15:42-53; 2 Peter 2:4-10)

The Bible says that man was created as a special being—in the image of God, as opposed to the evolutionary view that has man is just another animal in the evolutionary process. (Genesis 1:26-27, 2:7)

The Bible indicates that creation was a completed event in the past, and is not continuing as evolution suggests. (Genesis 2:1-3; Ecclesiastes 3:14; Hebrews 4:3-11) As put by the Concordia Study Bible (annotations page 8), "His creative work was completed—and it was totally effective, absolutely perfect, 'very good.' It did not have to be repeated, repaired or revised, and the Creator rested to commemorate it."

Given the above, the creation by God of distinct "kinds" as described in Genesis 1 and 1 Corinthians 15:38-39 implies that transmutations between kinds is precluded, or at least superfluous.

The Bible indicates that there is clear physical evidence of creation. (Psalm 19:1-6; Acts 17:24-29) Evolution denies the evidence for creation. If Darwinism were a reasonable hypothesis, atheists would have a perfectly good excuse, in contradiction to Romans 1:20. On the other hand, creation is a consistent theme throughout the Bible.

There is no hint of evolution in the Bible. While this is an argument from silence and thus does not necessarily preclude evolution, such an important concept as to origins would surely have been suggested in the Bible due to its theological implications. On the other hand, creation is a consistent theme throughout the Bible. It is mentioned approximately 64 times in 18 books of the Bible.

Evolution is a philosophy based on naturalism and materialism. Naturalism holds that nature is all there is and that the universe is self-sufficient without a supernatural cause or control of the world. Materialism regards matter as the original cause of all—that matter did its own creating. Materialism denies the existence of the soul. The philosophical assumption of evolution is therefore essentially atheistic or agnostic, thus clearly incompatible with special creation and the other miracles of the Bible. With evolution, if God exists, He is so distant as to be irrelevant.

The Bible teaches that God created man by fiat, that is, by supernatural power, not by natural processes. (Genesis 2:7; Psalm 33:6,9; Psalm 148:5; 2 Corinthians 4:6; Hebrews 11:3)

Some 75 passages of Scripture including those by Jesus, refer to the creation narrative of Genesis 1-2, confirming it as actual history. (Matthew 19:4; Mark 10:6; Luke 3:38, Revelation 2:7) See In the Beginning elsewhere on our site.

There is an important reason to interpret from the Bible that Adam was a real person. Unless the concept of original sin through Adam is true, Jesus' coming makes no sense. That is, Christians believe that Christ's atoning sacrifice for our sins was necessary because of man's sin nature inherited in some sense from Adam. The Bible teaches that Jesus was the "second Adam." So if Adam was not real, thus did not bring sin into the world, Christ's redemptive sacrifice was not necessary. (Genesis 3:15-19; Romans 4:22-25, 5:12-21; 1 Corinthians 15:21-23,45-57; 1 Timothy 2:13-14).

The overarching theme of the Bible is Creation/Fall/Redemption. (God created the universe "very good." Then man spoiled it by his rebellion—the "Fall", necessitating God's redemption of mankind through Christ.) This sequence is crucial to Christian theology. Did God really create things bad, not "very good" as the Bible says (Genesis 1:31)? If things were bad to start with, the Fall becomes a superfluous concept. (The Fall presupposes that there was something good from which to fall.) Thus, a major point of tension exists between the Bible and evolution at the heart of the biblical doctrine of the Fall. Note the following quote from G. R. Bozarth, The American Atheist magazine, September 1978, 30:

"Christianity has fought, still fights, and will fight science to the desperate end over evolution, because evolution destroys utterly and finally the very reason Jesus' earthly life was supposedly made necessary. Destroy Adam and Eve and the original sin, and in the rubble you will find the sorry remains of the son of God. If Jesus was not the redeemer who died for our sins, and this is what evolution means, then Christianity is nothing."

Evolutionism, indeed, denies that man even has a sinful nature or else suggests that we should not be faulted for our human nature because "that is just our nature." Thus evolution is inconsistent with the Christian belief that man is indeed fallen and in need of a savior.

The theory of evolution itself has continually changed over time. This is in contrast to the Bible, which has not changed over time.

Morality in evolutionary thought is a function of natural selection, survival of the fittest, or situation ethics. The Bible teaches transcending moral truth, given by God. (Exodus 20:1-17; Isaiah 5:20-21)

Evolution is closely associated with the philosophy of secular humanism, which accepts human beings as the ultimate source of meaning and value. The Bible, of course, places God as the ultimate source of meaning and value.

The Bible teaches that man was created for a special purpose. Evolution denies that man has a divine purpose, or at least implies that man's purpose in life is whatever one wants to make of it (secular humanism). (Isaiah 43:7; Jeremiah 29:11; Matthew 6:10; Romans 8:28, 14:12; Galatians 1:15; Ephesians 2:10, 3:21; 2 Timothy 1:9; 1 Peter 4:10)

Since evolution offers no real purpose for life, it results in an absence of meaning, and therefore an absence of objective moral values. This is clearly in conflict with the Bible. Evolution results in a philosophy of nihilism (the denial of any basis for truth), which ultimately ends in despair. The Bible claims to have the Truth, which gives ultimate hope. (John 14:6; Colossians 1:27)

The Bible not only fits the evidence of scientific investigation, it provides an answer for why the world was created. Evolution does neither.

http://www.faithfacts.org/evolution...lution-conflict

For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind. 2 Tim 1:7

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04-20-2011 11:56 AM  7 years agoPost 5257
helicopter

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Good Find!
GForce:
To me, my friend, your name means God's Force working
in you! (although my PC has a similar video card..)
Wow, wonderful thoughts! I am blessed to have read
these posts! Thank you so much!

At nearly 40k views this thread has been living in the
darkness of 5 guy's atheistic evolutionism; a foreign
'Religion' created in the mind of man who wishes to retain
his personal autonomy and sovereignty. These poor uneducated
fellows are misinformed, yet mistakenly and truly believe
that their world view is the correct synopsis of all life.

They are at 180º in opposition to the very LOVE of our
Creator God, and are literally RUNNING from Him at breakneck
speed, rather than simply agreeing WITH Him and accepting
His Loving, Merciful GIFT of Forgivness, Redemption, and
Reconciliation under the auspices of His Own Son Who died
in our place - bringing the atonement of sins so that
Fathers justice could reign with perfect alignment!

All that God asks of us is to BELIEVE that HE Exists
and that we are depraved sinners in desperate need of
salvation from sin and unbelief.

Yet the posts here are full of oppositionary thought to
the clean, pure teaching of the Holy Bible; it is very
refreshing this early April Morning, just before Easter,
to find such a delightful post!

Bless you dear heart for your kindness.

Happy Easter and a Joyful day to you and those whom you also love!

Byron [OP]

Luke 24
Jesus Has Risen
1 On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, the women took the spices they had prepared and went to the tomb. 2 They found the stone rolled away from the tomb, 3 but when they entered, they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus. 4 While they were wondering about this, suddenly two men in clothes that gleamed like lightning stood beside them. 5 In their fright the women bowed down with their faces to the ground, but the men said to them, “Why do you look for the living among the dead? 6 He is not here; he has risen! Remember how he told you, while he was still with you in Galilee: 7 ‘The Son of Man must be delivered over to the hands of sinners, be crucified and on the third day be raised again.’ ” 8 Then they remembered his words.

I love gravity, it always keeps my feet planted when I fly!

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04-20-2011 12:18 PM  7 years agoPost 5258
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Wow this is a first in this thread. A creationist who doesn't live in the U.S.

Did you see the video I posted a few pages ago?

Watch at YouTube

Not at all. Science has many Christian roots. Most of the early scientists were Christians (Copernicus, Galileo, Pascal, Isaac Newton, Carl Linnaeus, Johannes Keppler, Robert Boyle, Louis Pasteur, Jean Henri Fabre, Michael Faraday, John Ambrose Fleming, etc.)
These are 'early scientists of the modern era, not 'early scientists'. You may be surprised to find that the worlds oldest 3 universities were founded in Islamic countries, well before any of the guys you mention were born. Obviously, next to nothing was known about natural laws in those days, so such fields of science did not exist. Have a look at my posts in this thread for more info.
Muslims who might challenge the Quran with scientific thinking were considered infidels and it was obligatory for all good Muslims to kill infidels.
Typical Christian propaganda. If that statement was true, then freedom of religion would not have been allowed in most Islamic societies throughout history, like it has been. Muslims would just have killed all the infidels, right?
When pressed, even the most hardened atheistic scientists acknowledge that science and the supernatural are compatible.
BS. Here's a quote from your site which conflicts with that position, and is worth a laugh too.

''The evidence for Darwinian evolution is so fragmentary that it would not command any respect at all, if it were not for the fact that the evolutionists have agreed in advance to exclude all thought of intelligent design.''
So-called conflicts of science and the Bible are often conflicts between interpretations of the facts. While there are questions for which there are as yet no explanation, there is no fundamental conflict between science and Scripture.
That's utter nonsense. Science has discovered that we evolved from simpler lifeforms. The Bible says that man was 'created' in God's image. There's a pretty big fundamental conflict right there.
The universe was created in a burst of light fifteen billion years ago.
Where did you get this idea from? As far as we know, there was no light in the universe before the first stars were formed, which didn't happen until billions of years after the big bang.

You appear to accept that the earth is billions of years old, but you think that creation was a one off event. Do you accept that mankind has only been around for a fraction of this time, or do you think that we have existed for billions of years?

I'll wait until you address these points before I address the rest of your posts.

Dusty

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04-20-2011 12:24 PM  7 years agoPost 5259
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Helicopter,

Your position falls flat on it's face every time you fail to address questions that others put to you, regarding what you post.

Are you unable to answer the questions I asked in my reply to your previous post?

Dusty

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04-20-2011 01:31 PM  7 years agoPost 5260
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When a scientist tells you ‘The science is settled’ in regard to any subject, he’s ceased to be a scientist, and he’s become an evangelist for one cult or another. Especially here on RR.

The entire history of science is that nothing in science is ever settled. New discoveries are continuously made, and they upend old certainties.

That should be obvious.

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