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12-24-2010 05:41 AM  9 years ago
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Dig a Cave and Plant a Garden - he's a coming -

You better clean the place up a bit while your at it. He may pay you a visit.

Here we have a service that pump's our's out and changes the chemical for $25.00. Pretty good deal.
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12-24-2010 05:52 AM  9 years ago
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You all base creation from genesis

Genesis had 5 authors before it made it to the OT

It was also told around campfires for 300-500 years before it was wrote down many times by many different scribes.

The two best books of many were put together and 2 other authors and a redactor [editor] who freely added to it as he felt. Now were getting genesis together but how did moses get placed as author???

J: a writer who used Yahweh/Jehovah as the divine name.
E: a writer who used Elohim as the divine name. *
P: a writer who added material of major interest to the priesthood.
D: the author of the book of Deuteronomy. *
R: a redactor who welded the contributions of J, E and P together into the present Pentateuch.

the Yahwist source ( J ) : written c. 950 BCE in the southern Kingdom of Judah.

the Elohist source ( E ) : written c. 850 BCE in the northern Kingdom of Israel.

the Deuteronomist ( D ) : written c. 600 BCE in Jerusalem during a period of religious reform.

the Priestly source ( P ) : written c. 500 BCE by Aaronic priests in exile in Babylon.

The Torah redactors: first JE, then JED, and finally JEDP, producing the final form of the Torah c. 450 BCE.

Today, the vast majority of Bible scholars believe that the Torah is a composite document, edited together from a variety of earlier sources. This view is also accepted as correct by all rabbis and scholars in non-Orthodox forms of Judaism, and by many priests and scholars in many forms of Christianity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Documentary_hypothesis

Other words moses want even assigned as the author until the greko roman period when they wanted to assign all the storys a author.

but all you morons want to base your creation myth off this fiction

Do me a favor and educate your dumb azzes and come back to this thread when you have a hint of intellegence or some proof of some kind.
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12-24-2010 05:52 AM  9 years ago
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Dig a Cave
It wouldnt be the same without you lol
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12-24-2010 05:54 AM  9 years ago
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Cave couldn't
Hold EM !!!
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12-24-2010 05:58 AM  9 years ago
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but all you morons want to base your creation myth off this fiction

Do me a favor and educate your dumb azzes and come back to this thread when you have a hint of intellegence or some proof of some kind.
You've just been promoted from "dumb jerk" to "arrogant dumb jerk".

The pay is lousy. But, the shoe fits you well.

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12-24-2010 07:34 AM  9 years ago
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My belief is strong enough to bet my life on thou, is yours? Whats your angle if so? how will it benefit you buy betting your life on that belief in Evolution? Will you be frozen in cryostasis, in hopes that 20,000 years from now you can be thawed out to fly the next generation in RC Helicopters, controlled only buy the mind. No TX Needed. Peace..........
This is a perfect example of why people follow the various religions. No matter the religion, some sort of afterlife is always involved. Whether re-incarnation into another human, or some sort of spiritual existence.

One thing we get from seeing the various religions for what they are, is that we should make the most of this life, because it's the only one we have. When we die we become plant food.

Don't let death scare you, enjoy your best years and be thankful for them. However badly off you think you are, there are always plenty that have worse luck than you, so be thankful for what you have. Don't fear the unknown, because you won't know it. We all find everlasting peace in the end.

The only way any of us are going to live on beyond our natural life in any way shape or form, is through our children. Our purpose in life should not be to hope for a better life for ourselves, but to make this world a better place for the next generation. Don't be so selfish.

Merry Christmas

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12-24-2010 07:40 AM  9 years ago
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I'll pass on the nearly two hours of sluring. Most of the population in the united states Are Christian around 78% of us
Outhouse is right. Although the majority of Americans identify themselves as Christians, most of the more educated folk obviously don't believe in creation. If they did, then why is evolution taught in schools?

One other thing, I noticed you mention faith in evolution. Faith does not enter into the equation. Do you need faith to know that you are reading this post? Do you believe that you are reading this post, or do you simply know that you are?

Those who recognise evolution as fact, have arrived at that conclusion after considering all of the available evidence. It's as simple as that. No belief, no faith, it's quite simply there

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12-24-2010 12:16 PM  9 years ago
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Your so called science is dung... You can stick your evolution where the sun does not shine... My belief is strong enough to bet my life on - rcflyer
Then you may as well dig yourself a hole, sit on down and pull the dirt back in on top of you -- cuz you've bet your half-baked empty-headed voluntarily-blind life on a zero-odds proposition. Your lack of education is painfully obvious.
how will it benefit you buy betting your life on that belief in Evolution? Will you be frozen in cryostasis, in hopes that 20,000 years from now you can be thawed out to fly the next generation in RC Helicopters... - rcflyer
This is a perfect example of why people follow the various religions. No matter the religion, some sort of afterlife is always involved. Whether re-incarnation into another human, or some sort of spiritual existence.

One thing we get from seeing the various religions for what they are, is that we should make the most of this life, because it's the only one we have. When we die we become plant food.

Don't let death scare you, enjoy your best years and be thankful for them. However badly off you think you are, there are always plenty that have worse luck than you, so be thankful for what you have. Don't fear the unknown, because you won't know it. We all find everlasting peace in the end.

The only way any of us are going to live on beyond our natural life in any way shape or form, is through our children. Our purpose in life should not be to hope for a better life for ourselves, but to make this world a better place for the next generation. Don't be so selfish. - Dusty
Well said, Dusty. You (and outhouse and a few others) are among the several bright lights shining on this thread -- amid a tragic majority of very dim bulbs.
Merry Christmas
A Glorious Winter Solstice and a Prosperous New Year to you as well.
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12-24-2010 06:19 PM  9 years ago
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12-24-2010 06:27 PM  9 years ago
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Christianity -- the belief that a cosmic jewish zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree... yeah, makes perfect sense.
That paragraph is a thing of profound and utterly hilarious beauty.
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12-24-2010 07:05 PM  9 years ago
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Some opinions From The Other Side

Are Godless Atheists a Threat to America?:

Christian Right attacks on atheists have helped ensure that atheists remain the most despised minority in America. These attacks are not a series of isolated criticisms; instead, they are integrated and coordinated. Taken together these attacks effectively portray godless atheists as involved in a conspiracy against America, American values, and Christianity. Atheists have no respect for traditions, for values, for religion, or for anything that makes America what it is.

Godless Atheists Are Enormously Powerful, if Few in Number:

Every good conspiracy theory needs a powerful enemy to fight and atheists are no different. The number of irreligious people in America continues to grow, but the number of open atheists continues to be relatively small; despite these numbers, however, godless atheists are portrayed as wielding incredible power over society, culture, and politics. How else could they be at the root of all America’s ills? This may also lie behind the need to portray all liberals as godless.

Godless Atheists are a Threat to the Children:

Good conspiracy theories also need to be framed as cause to protect the innocent and vulnerable children — people are willing to do almost anything to protect children, it seems. It’s only natural, then, that atheists are often depicted as a threat to America’s children: they are infiltrating the schools, for example, to drive God out and they are corrupting the entertainment industry in order to corrupt the nation’s youth as well.

Godless Atheists Poison Society:

Of course, it’s not just the children who are be threatened by the godless atheist menace, it’s all of society. Godless atheists are driving God out of the public square, out of government, and out of every place else in American culture. The fact that God either never was or never really belonged in these places isn’t addressed. Instead, all that matters is that atheists are undermining what it means to be an American and undermining America itself.

Godless Atheists Seek to Destroy Godly Christianity:

If it’s not bad enough that godless atheists hate and are trying to destroy America, they also hate and are trying to destroy Christianity. This helps prove that atheists are in league with Satan, whether knowingly or not. The difference between this and undermining America is more a question of semantics, though, because such Christians don’t acknowledge a difference between true Christianity and true patriotism. If that’s what’s needed to be Christian, though, perhaps it should be undermined.

Godless Atheists’ Stubbornness is a Sign of the Evil:

If godless atheists were reasonable people, they wouldn’t be so stubborn when confronted with the obvious truth of Christianity — they’d just convert. At least, that appears to be the conclusion which many Christians hold about atheists. The circular nature of the argument complete misses them — they act as though every reasonable person would instantly convert to Christianity if simply given a chance. The fact that atheists don’t is taken to demonstrate their evil intentions.

Godless Atheists Should be Segregated:

In the past, minorities accused of conspiring against the majority have been segregated — Jews were confined to ghettos in Europe, for example. Such physical segregation isn’t politically feasible in modern America, but other types of segregation are pursued. Political segregation is achieved, for example, by excluding atheists from political discourse and insisting that they sit down, shut up, and stop saying things that upset Christians.

Godless Atheists Undermine Basic Morality:

Because it is assumed that atheists have no good reason to be moral, it is concluded that atheists are in part responsible for what conservative Christians see as the decline in basic morality in all sectors of American society. One way or another, godless atheists are perceived as being at least partially to blame for everything the Christian Right dislikes in America: tolerance of gays, abortion, the separation of church and state, and so forth.

Godless Atheists Invite Divine Wrath:

Perhaps to assuage some guilt for their efforts to deny atheists equal respect and tolerance, Christian conservatives insist that atheists’ actions put everyone at risk because God is likely to punish the entire nation for the atheists’ actions. Thus God sends hurricanes as punishment for tolerance of homosexuals and wildfires as punishment for abortion. God only wants the best for America, that’s why so many innocents are killed to punish America for tolerating atheistic ideologies.

Conspiracy Theories as a Desire to Impose Order on Chaos:

As a rule, people like to think that there is a semblance of order and especially control operating behind our political and economic systems; yet for some, this order takes on sinister connotations. The order they see is not the organic sort which can arise piecemeal out of the nature of complex systems, as with the example of large cities. Instead, the order which exists is created by vast, shadowy forces seeking world domination.

Such an attitude is not confined to any particular religious or political persuasion — it is easy to find conspiracy theories among leftists and even atheists. However, it is currently easier to find conspiracy theories among members of America’s Christian Right; in fact, for some of them, their political and social agendas appear to be based as much upon the conspiracies they see as upon the religion they follow. Too often, conspiracies and religion intermingle, each serving to reinforce the other.

Conspiracy theories are dangerous because they can and often do create large-scale scapegoating. It seems that there is more psychological satisfaction in seeing even Satan in control of events rather than no one at all. Indeed, the nature of their struggle against conspiratorial forces commonly takes the form of Good vs. Evil. The True Believer is not opposing impersonal forces of history or nature, but instead a history-spanning program directed at oppressing, if not killing, people just like him. This offers a good deal more excitement and gratification. With the world divided into black and white, judgments about whom to trust and whom to hate are made much easier. In the modern world where people have become alienated from tradition, family, and even themselves, it serves the ego to find a worldview which allows for simpler decision making.

http://atheism.about.com/od/godless...nspiracyGod.htm
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12-24-2010 07:21 PM  9 years ago
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Deet, ya think you'll ever grow tired of being known as the resident idiot here?

Seriously -- that's an honest question. Answer it as best you can -- IF you can.
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12-24-2010 07:22 PM  9 years ago
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12-24-2010 07:29 PM  9 years ago
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Deet, ya think you'll ever grow tired of being known as the resident idiot here?

Seriously -- that's an honest question. Answer it as best you can -- IF you can.
Knowing you and guys like outhouse for some time here on this forum Gimble is the single reason why I know that atheists are the single most despised minority in America.

Congrats
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12-24-2010 07:30 PM  9 years ago
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Deet, GREYEAGLE, BDIS, rcflyer, etc charter members in good standing of the International League Of Light Thinkers, Half-Baked Twinkie Division.

Any chance a mere civilian could get on the monthly newsletter's mailing list?

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12-24-2010 07:46 PM  9 years ago
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Knowing you and guys like outhouse for some time here on this forum Gimble is the single reason why I know that atheists are the single most despised minority in America.

Congrats
Speaking for myself, thats not because of your views. You are entitled to believe the way you wish.

Its because of your attitude towards others and their rights to believe the way they wish, the hate, and for the lack of respect you show for others.

Both you arrogant tirds deserve everything you get in return for that.

Merry Christmas to you and your families anyway.

May both your New Years improve your character.

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12-24-2010 07:56 PM  9 years ago
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atheists are the single most despised minority in America.
Wrong, and you cannot prove otherwise.

The far more despised segment of America are stupid people -- specifically the voluntarily-blind, who imagine -- despite all evidence to the contrary -- that they know diddly. YOU don't know diddly. You don't even know Bo Diddley.
Both you arrogant tirds
This from a proven pinhead who can't even manage to spell the word turd.
deserve everything you get in return for that.
And you know what 'we get'? We get respect from many here and elsewhere for being bold enough to take the time to put you morons in your place where you belong -- in your corner, on your stool, wearing your pointed dunce caps.

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12-24-2010 08:21 PM  9 years ago
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Wrong, and you cannot prove otherwise.
Here ya go tird:

Americans Despise & Distrust Atheists and the Irreligious More than all Others

Atheists are the most despised and distrusted minority in the United States. Americans are more prejudiced and bigoted against atheists than any other group. This isn't a subjective perception of atheists, it's a fact that is reinforced by every study done on the subject. The reasons given for this bigotry are varied, but they are all also generally incorrect in their portrayal of atheists. Atheists are thus hated more for what people attribute to them than for what they really are.

Much more here:

http://atheism.about.com/od/atheist...AntiAtheism.htm

Congrats on your status in life
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12-24-2010 08:28 PM  9 years ago
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Americans Despise & Distrust Atheists and the Irreligious More than all Others
Wrong. Back to school for you. Just wait outside for the short yellow bus.
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12-24-2010 08:30 PM  9 years ago
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Only a card carrying member of the League of Light Thinkers would consider that an accurate source of useful information. Rush Limbaugh is despised by more Americans than atheists are, you empty-headed moron.
Ya but. He's right.

You ain't.

Besides, he's not a minority.
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