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12-22-2010 07:02 PM  9 years ago
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Not neccesarily.

Quote taken from [url=http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/2010/06/16/genesis-126-27-are-we-%E2%80%9Clittle-gods%E2%80%9D-and-other-misinterpretations-by-dr-norman-geisler/]
Genesis 1:26—Does this verse indicate that there is more than one god?

Misinterpretation:
If there is only one God, why does this verse in Genesis use the word us in reference to God? Mormons often note that the Hebrew word usually translated God, Elohim, is in the plural, and the plural pronoun us is used. To them this indicates that there is more than one God: “In the very beginning the Bible shows there is a plurality of Gods beyond the power of refutation….The word Elohim ought to be in the plural all the way through—Gods” (Smith, 1976, 372).

Correcting the misinterpretation:
Several explanations for the use of the pronoun us have been offered throughout history. Some commentators have claimed that God is addressing the angels. But this is unlikely since in verse 26 God says, “Let us make man in our image,” while verse 27 makes it clear that “God created man in his own image; in the image of God he created him,” and not in the image of the angels.

Others have claimed that the plural pronoun refers to the Trinity. It is true that the New Testament (e.g., John 1:1) teaches that the Son was involved in the creation of the heavens and the earth. Also, Genesis 1:2 indicates that the Holy Spirit was involved in the creation process. However, students of Hebrew grammar point out that the plural pronoun us is simply required by the plural Hebrew noun Elohim, which is translated “God” (“Then God [Elohim, plural] said, ‘Let us [plural] make man in our [plural] image’”). Consequently, they claim that this statement should not be used to prove the doctrine of the Trinity.

Still others have asserted that the plural is used as a figure of speech called a majestic plural. Indeed, the Qur’an, which denies that there is more than one person in God, uses us of God. In this use, God is speaking to himself in such a manner as to indicate that all of his majestic power and wisdom were involved in the creation of humanity. As has been noted, the plural pronoun us corresponds to the plural Hebrew word Elohim, which is translated God. The fact that the name God is plural in Hebrew does not indicate that there is more than one God. (Queen Victoria used the plural of majesty when referring only to herself. She once commented, “We are not amused.”) A number of passages in the New Testament refer to God with the singular Greek noun theos, which is also translated “God” (for example John 1:1; Mark 13:19; Eph. 3:9). The plural nature of the Hebrew word is designed to give a fuller, more majestic sense to God’s name. It should be noted, however, that the New Testament clearly teaches that God is a Trinity (Matt. 3:16-17; 2 Cor. 13:14; 1 Peter 1:2), and, although the doctrine of the Trinity is not fully developed in the Old Testament, it is foreshadowed (cf. Ps. 110:1; Prov. 30:4; Isa. 63:7,9-10
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12-22-2010 07:04 PM  9 years ago
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You sir have proven yourself to be an uneducated baby sheep walking blindly through life sucking on momma ignorances teet.

please learn history and science if you want to talk intellegently with the big boys LOL
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12-22-2010 07:06 PM  9 years ago
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would you mind listing who you are replying to? I can infer but I'd rather be 100% positive! lol
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12-22-2010 07:09 PM  9 years ago
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If you believe in Science/Evolution, there is no reason to try to discredit Judaism, and Christianity with the talk of other religions in the first place. Unless your an Atheist to begin with and are just sowing dismay. And deliberately trying to bring others down your level.
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12-22-2010 07:10 PM  9 years ago
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Not neccesarily.
for every website like that theres a thousand that say different.

Christian and hebrew trash has always tried to get around the bibles LIES

A flood that never happened
the sun revolves around the flat earth
noah lived over 900 years old
moses lived 800 year LOL
earth created in 6 days

Please MORONS admit the bible and your beliefs are that of uneducated barbaric idiots of 3000 years ago.

or evolve

the bible has been proven to be fiction like a dime novel a whore reads
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12-22-2010 07:11 PM  9 years ago
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would you mind listing who you are replying to? I can infer but I'd rather be 100% positive! lol
I would quote you lol

your ok
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12-22-2010 07:13 PM  9 years ago
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for every website like that theres a thousand that say different.

Christian and hebrew trash has always tried to get around the bibles LIES

A flood that never happened
the sun revolves around the flat earth
noah lived over 900 years old
moses lived 800 year LOL
earth created in 6 days

Please MORONS admit the bible and your beliefs are that of uneducated barbaric idiots of 3000 years ago.

or evolve

the bible has been proven to be fiction like a dime novel a whore reads
WOW, back to square 1 with you. I provide a retort and you start throwing insults again? I honestly thought we could actually have an adult conversation but you have prooved time after time that when aggevated you just turn into another Gimbal?

to quote ESPN "C'MON MAN!!"
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12-22-2010 07:13 PM  9 years ago
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there is no reason to try to discredit Judaism, and Christianity with the talk of other religions in the first place.
im sorry its the other way around

your false religion trys to discount science at every turn because it flushes your belief down the drain with truth and reality.
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12-22-2010 07:14 PM  9 years ago
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the sun revolves around the flat earth
throw some more lies up, you know nothing about, God plainly tells in the Bible to begin with the earth is a sphere, and not flat.
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12-22-2010 07:16 PM  9 years ago
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WOW, back to square 1 with you.
When dealing with the ignorant, who once get backed into a corner with logic and reality start throwing insults.

They get it back.

you cant trash science

the bible however is a easy mark because its PROVABLE fiction

so lets not throw stones if you live in a glass house
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12-22-2010 07:16 PM  9 years ago
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A flood that never happened
the sun revolves around the flat earth
noah lived over 900 years old
moses lived 800 year LOL
earth created in 6 days
People in this thread have offered valid answers to all of that and all anyone can do is resort to name calling.

I'm going to leave this thread now and spend time with my family. The annimosity in this thread does nothing but aggrevate me.
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12-22-2010 07:20 PM  9 years ago
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your false religion trys to discount science at every turn because it flushes your belief down the drain with truth and reality.
nothing found in science has flushed my personal relationship with GOD down the drain.

At the end of the day that is what it is. A personal relationship. No religeon, just me and GOD and it's ultimatly just between GOD and I. No one else.

I don't need to argue with you or anyone else because aftet it's all said and done none of this will matter. I just thought we could all have a calm rational discussion on the topic, but I guess I was wrong?

Enjoy your Holidays and GOD bless.
When dealing with the ignorant, who once get backed into a corner with logic and reality start throwing insults.
I have never once gotten testy with you. I have made an effort to read and understand EVERYTHING you have returned. Not once have I thrown a single insult.
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12-22-2010 07:26 PM  9 years ago
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1 Corinthians 1:21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe.

Have a nice day everyone. Even the hard headed.
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12-22-2010 07:31 PM  9 years ago
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have offered valid answers to all of that
there are no valid answers to the myth, it fiction.
I have never once gotten testy with you.
no you havnt and if you want to discuss reasonable answers to evolution im here.

if you want to talk myth, be prepared

When i get "testy" its from dealing with the myth camp not you.
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12-22-2010 07:34 PM  9 years ago
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like a dime novel a whore reads
Now that is funny.

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12-22-2010 07:42 PM  9 years ago
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there are no valid answers to the myth, it fiction.
There ARE valid answers to the BIBLE. You just refuse to consider them. You offer half truths and misinterpretations and when a correction is offered you start flinging insults.

I cannot and will not try to have a conversation with someone unwilling to have one.
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12-22-2010 07:43 PM  9 years ago
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like a dime novel a whore reads
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Now that is funny.
It's totally uncalled for and childish
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12-22-2010 07:49 PM  9 years ago
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There ARE valid answers to the BIBLE.
what is a valid answer to a worldwide flood that covered 20' over the highest mountain?

first of all at that sea level there is no oxygen and they would freeze.

Thanks for playing.

Now whats your way around the truth, or simply put. How are you going to lie about this fiction????
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12-22-2010 07:58 PM  9 years ago
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With all this talk of one true god vs many gods of the past and present...how would the one true god camp explain the oldest continuing culture on earth.

The Australian Aboriginal culture has many earth and sky gods of the Dreamtime, passed down over a proven 40,000 years, with evidence showing up to 60,000 years. This predates the Christian god by at least, if going by the 1300BC account of Moses by a measly 36,700 years. Go figure. And all the Dreamtime gods get on just fine, sure there is the odd conflict, but that is just human/god nature right.

Just recently this little item was found in Northern Australia, just goes to prove people were out and about using a highly evolved brain 35,000 years ago....not being created 6000 years ago as some would like us to believe.
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12-22-2010 08:03 PM  9 years ago
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BDIS, Your trying to have a discussion based on logic when the bible is based on FAITH.

You have no foundation from which to make your point.

That is pretty darn funny as well.

( your best bet is to continue with your faith and stop trying to prove the unprovable ).
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