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08-14-2010 11:59 PM  8 years agoPost 21
fla heli boy

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you're a f'ing freak. Really, I thought OCB was bad, you, my bloated chump, you are a true f'ing idiot. What part of being an American don't you grasp??? If you're so in love with the gay a$$ goat humping Muslims, why don't you go live there???? You'll be the first one to cry and moan about somebody coming to save you while they saw your head off with a rusty butter knife. Ur a pathetic human being.
You make be embarrassed to be an American. No wonder the world hates us.........putz

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08-15-2010 12:28 AM  8 years agoPost 22
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Fla-
Actually Twisted is not too fetched. Although I may not agree, he has some good points.
1-Religions in one essence or another all exhibit cultish traits.
2-Millions have in fact died in the name of Christ.

Twisted- I don't think anybody would have an issue if the Mosque in question was a respectable distance from "Ground Zero". What has people incensed is the fact of the very close proximity to the site. Debris from the aircraft was found on top of the building in question after the attack.
It is beyond human decency to put this Mosque this close.
As far as the Constitutional issue you are correct, it is a double edged sword and we have to accept the good with the bad of it.

But would an Aryan church next to a Holocaust memorial be just as offensive?
Absolutely and just as protected Constitutionally.

Liberals are like a "Slinky", useless but entertaining when pushed down stairs....

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08-15-2010 12:34 AM  8 years agoPost 23
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What part of being an American don't you grasp???
Are you for real? I just mentioned parts of the "American" Constitution and this is what you come back with? Your ignorance is what's embarrassing.

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08-15-2010 12:48 AM  8 years agoPost 24
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Actually Twisted is not too fetched. Although I may not agree, he has some good points.
1-Religions in one essence or another all exhibit cultish traits.
Really. I am sure some do.
2-Millions have in fact died in the name of Christ.
Thats true. But, that was hundreds of years ago. Who is doing it now? You want to live hundreds of years ago, fine. But, we need to defend ourselves NOW.

TwistedRotor mentioned parts of the Constitution. Fine. Now, there are those that wish to take advantage of it. Including the wacko lefty government we have now which a HUGE majority of Americans disagree with.

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08-15-2010 12:50 AM  8 years agoPost 25
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I don't think anybody would have an issue if the Mosque in question was a respectable distance from "Ground Zero".
There it is. The real question. The answer is definitely a "IMO" response.
Absolutely and just as protected Constitutionally.
Agreed, so why a thread about a response from a person that swore to the best of his ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States?
Now, there are those that wish to take advantage of it
And some who wish to ignore it when it suits them.

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08-15-2010 01:14 AM  8 years agoPost 26
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And some who wish to ignore it when it suits them.
Exactly.

Just like the lefty wacko government we have right now.
Agreed, so why a thread about a response from a person that swore to the best of his ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States?
Because there are the majority of Americans who feel both our legislative and executive branches of our government are twisting our Constitution not for the purposes of protecting us, but only for the self serving needs of preserving their own power.

The president now has a negative 22% support.
Our Congress has even less.

Shhh. Don't tell anybody. But, this is a president that cancels a "National Day Of Prayer" at the white house that has been tradition for many years with past presidents. But, celebrates "Ramadan" at the White House in addition to holding a State Dinner for his guests.

This guy just don't know how to make friends and influence the American people.

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08-15-2010 01:23 AM  8 years agoPost 27
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Agreed, so why a thread about a response from a person that swore to the best of his ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States?
Because he has exhibited so much contempt for said Constitution and the American people.

The Constitution is not a "Living Document" as so many on the left seem to see it as.
You can not protect,preserve and defend when it suits you or apply it to ones personal agenda.

Once again Dennis-100% dead balls on accurate.

It's a technical term.........

Liberals are like a "Slinky", useless but entertaining when pushed down stairs....

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08-15-2010 01:26 AM  8 years agoPost 28
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08-15-2010 02:34 AM  8 years agoPost 29
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Thats true. But, that was hundreds of years ago. Who is doing it now?
Have you forgotten the attacks an abortion clinics? These were committed by supposed christians.

The fact is religion has caused tons of problems over the ages. Millions have died in the name of god. Chris Rock had a line in the movie Dogma that made perfect sense and I'll paraphrase it. 'The problem with religion is that it's a belief, and people will fight, kill, and die over a belief.' Put two mutually exclusive idealogical systems near enough to each other and you're going to have conflict.

So the short answer is, it's still going on even today.

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08-15-2010 02:48 AM  8 years agoPost 30
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Have you forgotten the attacks an abortion clinics? These were committed by supposed christians.
Thats tragic. But, its hardly mass murder or war against another country.
The fact is religion has caused tons of problems over the ages. Millions have died in the name of god. Chris Rock had a line in the movie Dogma that made perfect sense and I'll paraphrase it. 'The problem with religion is that it's a belief, and people will fight, kill, and die over a belief.' Put two mutually exclusive idealogical systems near enough to each other and you're going to have conflict.

So the short answer is, it's still going on even today.
Yes, religion has caused tons of problems over the centuries. But, today, the only one that wants to rape, kill, and murder innocents is Radical Islam. Its really to bad people like yourself cannot put your energies towards that instead of today's religions that DO NOT rape, kill, and murder innocent men women and children without concern for their own lives. Radical Islam is the only religion today that celebrates putting a bomb on their young people and placing them into a crowd of innocents and blowing everything to smithereens.

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08-15-2010 03:57 AM  8 years agoPost 31
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fwiw..

No need for the adjective...islam is doing what it has has always done,,,Just with 21st century weaponry...The proof of my thesis is the deafening silence from"moderate" islam...A pox on them.

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08-15-2010 03:57 AM  8 years agoPost 32
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Because there are the majority of Americans who feel both our legislative and executive branches of our government are twisting our Constitution not for the purposes of protecting us, but only for the self serving needs of preserving their own power.
That's a your personal opinion not fact. The 26% strong approval rating does not reflect your statement. If you think it does, show me where 74% or even 51% share your view of the "legislative and executive branches of our government twisting our Constitution"
The Constitution is not a "Living Document" as so many on the left seem to see it as.
Actually by definition of a "living document", it is. If it wasn't we wouldn't have been able to add amendments.
this is a president that cancels a "National Day Of Prayer" at the white house that has been tradition for many years with past presidents.
Reagan and Bush Sr. only did it once during their administration, Clinton didn't do it at all, and Bush Jr. did every year. BTW, Obama didn't "cancel" it. Stop getting all your news from Rush and Fox and look it up for yourself.
today, the only one that wants to rape, kill, and murder innocents is Radical Islam.
You're right RADICAL Islam, just like RADICAL Christians blow up abortion clinics. It doesn't mean ALL Muslims or ALL Christians are evil or bad. But like the saying goes, a few bad apples spoils the bunch.

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08-15-2010 04:09 AM  8 years agoPost 33
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You're right RADICAL Islam. Just like RADICAL Christians blow up abortion clinics. It doesn't mean ALL Muslims or ALL Christians are evil or bad. But like the saying goes, a few bad apples spoils the bunch.
For awhile there, you had me fooled. I thought you were defending Radical Islam and slamming Christians as killers instead.

Its very hard to imagine comparing Christians killing abortion doctors (as tragic as that is), to Radical Islam strapping a bomb on their young people and sending them into a crowd of people and blowing everything to smithereens, or flying large aircraft into buildings and killing hundreds upon hundreds, or being chicken sh#t and hiding behind civilians to cause their death, etc, etc, etc.

If Muslims came out in mass and denounced the violence of Radical Islam, I could give them a break. But, they don't. Only very few do. That, to me is a very big deal. Thats just one of the reasons why a lot of people object to a mosque close to ground zero. Muslims are not to be trusted. Thats their fault. Not ours. Radical Islam attacked us. We did not attack them. Their Quran (sp) says to kill the infidel. Our bible does NOT say to kill anyone.

There is more than just a few bad apples in Radical Islam. There are thousands. Hundreds of thousands. And, there are millions of them who remain scared and silent. To bad.

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08-15-2010 04:35 AM  8 years agoPost 34
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Our bible does NOT say to kill anyone.
Oh yes it does:

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)& (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Kill Followers of Other Religions. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB) & (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Death for Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Kill False Prophets (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT) & (Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
Infidels and Gays Should Die (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)

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08-15-2010 04:57 AM  8 years agoPost 35
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Oh yes it does:
I googled everyone of those versus you quoted. This is the web site that comes up almost every single time:

http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm

I have read the King James version of the Bible at least a dozen times many years ago. Not for serious religious reasons. But, rather more for my own curiosity. Not a single one of those versus are in the King James version. There is no religion in the USA today that preaches that crap except Radical Islam. If they did, the USA would have been destroyed within a long time ago.

I don't believe your link at all. You mentioned cults. That web site is definitely the same. Only far, far worse in my mind. I thinking you provided that link as a knee jerk reaction for your argument, or you are a member of that one. One or the other.

Others can take your link as they wish. I know what it is. Its a web site of misinformation and HATE. With the later being the worst.

Unfortunately, freedom allows some to make idiots of themselves on a regular basis.

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08-15-2010 05:40 AM  8 years agoPost 36
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Not a single one of those versus are in the King James version.
Oh, so since it's not worded exactly like it is in the version YOU read it must not be so even though the translation means the same thing. What a cop out.
There is no religion in the USA today that preaches that crap
Yes there is, it's called Christianity. Right after the talking snake and the big boat holding all the animals.
Unfortunately, freedom allows some to make idiots of themselves on a regular basis.
Yup, but I try not to hold it against you guys.

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08-15-2010 06:02 AM  8 years agoPost 37
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Oh, so since it's not worded exactly like it is in the version YOU read it must not be so even though the translation means the same thing. What a cop out.
Do you really and truly believe any religion actually practices that crap in the USA, or anywhere else, except Radical Islam?

Translation???? Killing is killing. Show me the actual words from the Bible THOSE particular versions are. You can't. They don't exist except possibly in a very, very twisted mind. Don't you even know about the 10 commandments? They go against everything posted on that web site you link to.

If all those quotes from your so called bible and the information on that web site was true, then the USA, long ago, would have been a nation of tribes and waring factions killing each other and looking for more. Much like Radical Islam is today. Yes, we do kill each other here. We have crime. But, much more for greed and taking advantage of the innocent than for religious reasons.

Amazing, and a very, very ignorant argument on your part.

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08-15-2010 07:00 AM  8 years agoPost 38
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In recent times though
Did not Irish Roman catholics and protestants plant bombs in the middle of civilian areas,not hundreds of years ago,they are trying to start it all over again,look at the news outside of America.How many of you think what they did was justified??I bet this will draw very few comments about the justification for their acts.These facts are ignored in this type of argument.Maybe they were "Radical republicans"perhaps.How many of you think what they did was justified?

Team- unbiased opinion.K.I.S.S principle upheld here

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08-15-2010 03:02 PM  8 years agoPost 39
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my point, "Twisted Sister", is not that they should not be allowed to build it (of course they can, it's a free country), but WHY are they so hell bent on building it THERE??? They've been offered state property, but no, they'd rather spend more money and build it on that site. If the could, they'd build it on the actual Tower site itself. Don't know if this is 100% fact, but I've read that Mosques in the past were traditionally built on sites of victorious conflicts. If true, doesn't that change your mind at all ???? It should.

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08-15-2010 03:42 PM  8 years agoPost 40
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Show me the actual words from the Bible THOSE particular versions are. You can't.
Here a just a couple examples from YOUR version. I'll leave it up to you to do the rest of YOUR research. There are also many different versions, what's next do you want me to get it from the original Hebrew scrolls?

And the man that will do presumptuously, and will not hearken unto the priest that standeth to minister there before the LORD thy God, or unto the judge, even that man shall die: and thou shalt put away the evil from Israel. Deuteronomy 17:12

And he that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death Exodus 21:15

And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbor's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10

Since these words ARE in the bible and people in Christianity decide to ignore some aspects of it to get the full message then why can't people of another faith do the same? You keep saying "Radical Islam" which I agree is messed up, but is this mosque specifically for the "Radical" practices you have expressed? No, so why all the hubbub?
Don't know if this is 100% fact
fla heli boy: "sticking to insults rather than fact checking since 2008"

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