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08-12-2010 05:21 PM  8 years agoPost 1
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I'm trying to install my Align G600 gov on my TRex600NSP and JR X9303AS (aircraft) radio. I installed the gov per Align instructions and configured using the gear switch and governor function in the radio. All went well except: The gear switch does not turn the gov on and off (the light stays green all the time) and, in normal mode when I reduce the throttle to below 30% the gov does not turn off (light stays green all the time).
I'm wondering if there is something about the aircraft version of the 9303 that this gov does not like, or am I just missing something.

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08-12-2010 06:18 PM  8 years agoPost 2
dkshema

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In the Device Select menu, do you have the GEAR switch in the "INH", "ACT", or "GOV" mode?

If you intend to use the GEAR switch to control the governor, the GEAR switch setting in the Device Select menu needs to be "ACT".

The programming of the Airplane version of the 9303 is identical to that of the heli version. The ONLY differences in the A/S version and the Heli version are the location (and type, in the case of the trainer switch) of a few switches, and the A/S version has a ratchet throttle instead of smooth. The ratchet can be removed to make your throttle ratchetless for heli flying.

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08-13-2010 01:10 AM  8 years agoPost 3
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In Device Select the GEAR switch is in the GOV mode. Why ACT?

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08-13-2010 04:42 AM  8 years agoPost 4
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I think what Dave was saying is IF you want to use the gear selector to turn the G600 off then configure it that way. Should work just fine in GOV programming also.

This sounds like the G600 was not configured properly. did you go through the proper calibration process on the G600? Are your throttle end points setup very close to 100 Low and high throttle?

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08-13-2010 03:10 PM  8 years agoPost 5
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I believe the problem is with my limited experience and the sketchy, broken English instructions from Align. Where my experience is lacking, I need detail. None of the heli pilots in my club have this gov. Many thanks to both you and Dave for your help.

Maybe my expectations are incorrect. I am under the impression that when I set the gear switch to GOV mode and plug the single yellow wire into the gear channel of the receiver, and the three-wire plug into the throttle channel, that I will then program the NORM, ST1 and ST2 speeds in the GOVERNOR list settings (to be controlled by the FLIGHT MODE switch) and that the GEAR switch will turn the governor on and off.

Is that assumption correct? It sounds like you and Dave are saying that it's either/or, not both. How is it supposed to work?

Both throttle end points are close to 100. I don't have the TX with me right now but I remember that they were very close at 100 and I didn't have to move them much. How close do they have to be?

I went through the Align instructions carefully step by step and calibrated the low and high throttle positions.

Thanks again to you and Dave for your assistance.

Ron

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08-13-2010 03:56 PM  8 years agoPost 6
jschenck

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I am under the impression that when I set the gear switch to GOV mode and plug the single yellow wire into the gear channel of the receiver, and the three-wire plug into the throttle channel, that I will then program the NORM, ST1 and ST2 speeds in the GOVERNOR list settings (to be controlled by the FLIGHT MODE switch) and that the GEAR switch will turn the governor on and off.

Is that assumption correct?
Ah, I think that's where you may off a bit. The gov should disengage once it sees the throttle down to about 25% or the "gain" goes to zero. The way I typically set mine up is to have a zero gain in in flight mode N and have the appropriate values at Idle-1 & 2 (and 3,4 if you use them). If I remember correctly the gear switch doesn't do anything when you have the radio setup in GOV mode for channel 5.

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08-13-2010 04:45 PM  8 years agoPost 7
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That explains it. So, I would turn the governor off by switching out of IDLE-1 or 2 back to NORMAL.

But, if the gain is set to "0" in FM-N (meaning the gov is "off" because it sees the "0" where does the "throttle down to about 25%" come into play? Would that be the case only if you had the gain set to 70% (or some reasonable number) in FM-N? And in that case the only way to turn the gov off would be to switch to FM-Norm and reduce the throttle, correct?

So, in scenario 1 with the gain at 0, I would expect to see a green light on the governor in Idle-1 and 2, and a red light in NORM mode regardless of throttle setting. In scenario 2 with a 70% gain set in NORM mode, I should expect to see a green light in Idle-1 and 2 and a green light in NORM until the throttle is reduced to below 30% at which time it would go red. Correct?

Your preference is to have governor off in NORM and use your normal throttle curve. I'll give that a try, making sure that my throttle end points are both close to 100 for the high/low calibration.

Whew! You've been very helpful. Thanks.
Ron

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08-13-2010 05:40 PM  8 years agoPost 8
jschenck

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yep, I think that covers it. I don't remember the LED colors for the G600 but the general idea is there.

I actually am going to swap mine over for a Throttle Jockey since I was getting strange radio glitches that went away when I turned the G600 off. Just need to figure out how to swap the sensor connector wires around for the TJ Pro style connector. Been flying most the summer on straight throttle curves and it's been working pretty well except for some over speeding on medium powered descents and some tail slides.

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08-13-2010 07:01 PM  8 years agoPost 9
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I have a TJ Pro on order for my Hirobo SDX. Been flying them both on throttle curves. The G600 came with my T600 kit so I figured I'd try to utilize it. See ya

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08-13-2010 08:41 PM  8 years agoPost 10
budz

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i'll chime in
under device select, if you put gear to activate, it'll allow you to switch governor on/off manually with the gear switch. to do this, you will have to go to the EPA of gear channel and assign 0 to switch up position and the value you want your head speed to the down switch position. this will have the governor off in the up and on in the low swirtch position (you can assign the value either way to where you are comforatable on the SW position)

if you assign GOV under device select (make sure you have gear EPA to + and - 100 before you do this). then the governor will be activated thru the flight mode switch. just remember that it will turn on above 20% stick position (whatever value you have unless it's zero). you can adjust head speed with the flight mode switch.

on manually (gear switch on ACT) the led will stay greenif governor is in the ON position and re in the off position.

in the governor mode (gear channel in device select in the GOV setting) once you push throttle stick above 20% led will turn green. full stick down, led is red.

to check if sensor is okay, turn on governor and turn the fan and position the magnet above the sensor. the led should not light or should extinguish.

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08-14-2010 01:47 AM  8 years agoPost 11
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Set it up with gear switch in Device Select set to Governor; flight modes N, 1 and 2 set to 0, 80 and 82. Worked out great for me.

Dave, jschenck and budz thanks for all your help.

Ron

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