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08-10-2010 11:43 PM  8 years agoPost 21
wgeorge111

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Yes with its built in power supply it should be fine when you plug it in the wall

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08-11-2010 01:35 AM  8 years agoPost 22
Ace Dude

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I highly doubt the TP-820CD is going come with an integrated power supply. I've heard the TP-820CD will be about $300 and 800W power supplies aren't cheap and I don't see room for one in the case.

There will be a version of the 610C with an integrated power supply, but that's an 80W charger.

  

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08-11-2010 02:38 AM  8 years agoPost 23
wgeorge111

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I highly doubt the TP-820CD is going come with an integrated power supply. I've heard the TP-820CD will be about $300 and 800W power supplies aren't cheap and I don't see room for one in the case.
I agree with you, however, I have 2 of these chargers on back order so I called thunder power today to see if I will be able to use a 24V external power supply with it and they said that there is no need, it has it's own power source. I reminded him I was talking about the 820CD 800watt charger and he confirmed it will plug in the wall. This was what was told to me by thunder power. It seems conflicting by the picture, since the picture shows 11V-24V DC input in the picture. They said it is 12V DC input only.
Give Thuder Power a call and see if they confirm this with you as well
Phone: (702) 228-8883

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08-11-2010 07:17 AM  8 years agoPost 24
Hati

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There is NO WAY they can have the current size AND and integrated power supply pushing 800 Watts. Unless they bent the rules of physics or invented a new type of power supply.

I have just got a carrier grade 24V 1200 W power supply, that, admittedly, has extra components to comply with carrier requirements, but most of the parts would be common to a lesser quality supply as well. This thing is bigger then two of these TP chargers on the top of each other...

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08-11-2010 05:53 PM  8 years agoPost 25
Terrabit

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I used a couple TP1010C/210V combos for about three years, two iCharger 1010B+'s for a year and two FMA PL8's w/MW 1500-24 ps charging 2x 6x 6s (12x 6s) for the last month or so. The PL8's are quite impressive. They do everything my other chargers have done and more, and they do it better. Higher discharge and balance discharge rates, better internal resistance monitoring, special modes that adjust charge rates automatically a cording to feed back from the lipos, etc. And then there's the software. I currently use crappy lipos so it's not as important. But when I do get around to upgrading to premium lipos I will create fuel tables so I can accurately chart performance over time.

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08-11-2010 06:23 PM  8 years agoPost 26
Ace Dude

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I will create fuel tables so I can accurately chart performance over time.
I'm not sure how fuel tables would enable you to chart performance over time.

  

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08-11-2010 06:47 PM  8 years agoPost 27
Terrabit

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I suppose the change in internal resistance over time is the best indication of performance but I'd also like to chart the change in the charge curve over time.

I believe I can chart both with the CCS software. In fact I'm pretty sure I can chart these changes for individual cells.

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08-11-2010 07:10 PM  8 years agoPost 28
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Yes, IR over time is the best indicator. I'm just under the impression that the fuel table is only to assist with automatic charge rates and to get a an accurate the fuel level indicator. I might try generating some custom fuel tables sometime, but I don't see myself using them much.

  

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08-11-2010 07:19 PM  8 years agoPost 29
Terrabit

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Okay, I get it. It's a graph, not a table. The info is on pg 56-57 in the PL8 manual - graphs on 55, fuel tables on 57. Once a week, should I be so inclined, I can take some graphs of a charge or discharge cycle and compare them with previous graphs. Better yet I can export this data to an Excel file for easier comparison.

Say what you will but, in my opinion, this is way too cool!

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08-11-2010 07:54 PM  8 years agoPost 30
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No doubt, it's cool. I've owned quite a few graphing chargers and a CBA II. I just find myself not using those features unless I suspect a problem. Pulling out all that stuff and going through the process takes time.

  

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08-11-2010 08:38 PM  8 years agoPost 31
Terrabit

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Pulling out all that stuff? What stuff? To my understanding you simply charge or discharge and select the graphs you want to view. I wasn't aware that graphing chargers were all that common. Which ones did you have?

Here's a list of available graphs:
  • Amps vs. Time
  • Cell Volts vs. Time
  • Fallback vs. Time
  • Fuel vs. Time
  • Internal Resistance vs. Time
  • Pack Capacity vs. Time
  • Pack Volts vs. Time
  • Cell Volts vs. Capacity
Here's a screenshot:

Here's a link to the manual: http://www.fmadirect.com/support_docs/item_1321.pdf

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08-11-2010 09:08 PM  8 years agoPost 32
Ace Dude

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Pulling out all that stuff? What stuff?
Chargers, power supplies, USB interfaces, packs, LiPoSack, and computer.
To my understanding you simply charge or discharge and select the graphs you want to view. I wasn't aware that graphing chargers were all that common. Which ones did you have?
Chargers with graphing that I've owned: Schulze, Orbit PocketLader, Hyperion 720i NET 3, FMA Multi4, FMA PowerLab 8.

Don't get me wrong, it's way cool! I'm just saying that after a while it becomes work and I'd rather fly than babysit batteries.

  

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08-11-2010 09:20 PM  8 years agoPost 33
wgeorge111

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I checked again with Thunder Power.
The 820CD DOES need an external power supply 11-28V
It WILL NOT have its own power supply

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08-11-2010 09:52 PM  8 years agoPost 34
Terrabit

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Chargers, power supplies, USB interfaces, packs, LiPoSack, and computer.
Okay, I get it. All that stuff is already out in my case. I use it pretty much daily. I does its thing while I do homework, surf internet or bloviate here on RR or HF.

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11-13-2010 01:48 PM  7 years agoPost 35
Gorgin4325

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Hi guys,

This thread is a few months old I believe. Have there been any updates on the TP-820CD?

Regards,
G

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11-13-2010 04:11 PM  7 years agoPost 36
Ace Dude

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I heard it was expected to be released in December, but that's just hearsay.

  

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