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10-12-2010 12:31 AM  8 years agoPost 101
rapidity

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wwwwaaaaaa
Auto hub seized to the shaft. Had to pound it out. Dug into the shaft pretty good. Need new shaft and prob should get another auto hub.

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10-12-2010 01:52 AM  8 years agoPost 102
Razz

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Thats a bummer! Maybe you got a soft shaft? Did you oil the one way bearing good? I used Triflow on mine.

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10-12-2010 02:10 AM  8 years agoPost 103
rich m

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Rapidity was that shaft hollow?

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10-12-2010 12:03 PM  8 years agoPost 104
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I used triflow, the hub seems fine. Shafts not hollow as far as I can tell.

Brians sending me out a new shaft. I appreciate their support.

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10-12-2010 12:10 PM  8 years agoPost 105
rich m

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I am just curious, did the shaft look polished or was it kind of rough looking?

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10-12-2010 12:15 PM  8 years agoPost 106
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You could see and feel the indentations from the bearing pins completely around the shaft.

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10-12-2010 12:29 PM  8 years agoPost 107
kcordell

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I always take all of my main shafts, clean them up with alcohol and drop the swash plate or main bearing on it. If it doesn't drop all the way down the shaft easily, especially around the holes, I chuck up the shaft in my cordless drill and get a piece of wet/dry 400, drop on some oil and away we go. Turn the shaft over and repeat. Clean again and drop the bearing again. Sure makes things easier when trying to assemble. Small little burrs around the holes can sure cause frustration when building.

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10-12-2010 12:40 PM  8 years agoPost 108
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I thought he meant where the auto hub was located. Yeah the shaft looked polished and smooth. Didn't have any problem at all assembling it.

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10-12-2010 01:18 PM  8 years agoPost 109
rich m

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I was actually curious if the whole shaft looked polished or kind of rough. I was wondering if that had anything to do with the one way locking up on it.

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10-16-2010 01:26 AM  8 years agoPost 110
Razz

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My tungsten tail weight mod.
I received my tungsten tail weight today, it weighs 1.3 heavier than lead, purchased from

http://www.maximum-velocity.com

I wanted to add some tail weight due to using TP 5S 5000 45c packs (675g ea.)

I was able to fit two strips inside the right carbon tail plate. I first removed the right carbon tail plate, took each tungsten piece and centered it, then marked the ends to match outside edges of carbon plate. I used a Dremel stone cutoff wheel, placed the tungsten into a vice, and cut the ends shorter. I did this for two pieces, then bolted them together, and used a belt sander to clean up the ends of the strips. I also had to make some very small cutouts in the tungsten strips to fit around the bearing and tail pulley-I just used a stone grinder to make the slight cutouts.

Next I used some 5 min. JB weld, and put a thin layer on the first T. strip, glued it to the carbon plate, then installed on heli to position it perfectly-used a couple small clamps to hold it into place for 10 minutes. I then removed the carbon plate, and glued the second T. strip to it, placed back on heli and clamped into position.

After 30 minutes, I removed the carbon tail plate and used a drill bit to extend 3mm hole into the carbon plate from the T. strips. I then used a little Krylon gloss black to paint it...you can hardly even see it! I used a 3mm button head bolt, washer and nut to also secure the T. strips to the carbon plate.

I ended up getting a perfectly balanced heli using 26 grams(1 ounce) of weight...can't wait to fly it tomorrow, and compare flight response

Brian Rasmussen
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10-16-2010 06:43 PM  8 years agoPost 111
mmc205

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although it balances the heli without adding a lot of weight near the CG, i believe balancing putting weight on the tail changes your moment of inertia in such a way that the heli may respond a bit strangely (specifically, the tail will have more momentum and the tail rotor will accelerate and decelerate much more slowly which will effect both your piro movements as well as your gyro gain). Namely, instead of the tail rotor having to accelerate a certain amount of inertia in the direction you piro, it has to accelerate quite a bit more due to the fact that the weight is place so far from the CG, making the moment of inertia quite different.

basically, using an airplane as an example the lighter the wings, especially the wing tips, the easier an airplane is to roll. the heavier the wings or wingtips, though the center of inertia would not change if balanced equally, the slower the airplane would roll if a certain torque was imparted on the airframe (torque is imparted by the ailerons) . some goes with a heli.

Something to consider.

In the end, its best to balance as close to the CG as possible, meaning motor/lipos/esc/electronics placement for the best possible performance.

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10-17-2010 08:57 PM  8 years agoPost 112
Razz

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mmc205,

What you are saying does sound good in theory, and I agree about getting the mass centralized. I only added 26g (1 oz.) which is not much. Dave Dahl mentioned to me that they have used up to 1.0 oz. attached to vertical tail fin for balance.

I have flown 4 flights so far, what I have found is the heli piros more even when upright or inverted, especially when you are adding collective inputs. It also tic tocs better when the tailboom is horizontal to the ground, as if the tail is holding better.

I am still playing with some tail rotor settings in order to get the correct feel for me( like my Total G tail on trex 700, which is perfect for me, super consistant in rotation, and quicker off the stick input). I'm trying different accel, P and I gain settings, along with Torq. pre comps. I'm also using 10% pitch pump. It's feeling really good!

I just dropped to a 12 T pinion, and am running a slower 3D HS for idle 1(2030)( for close and tight flying) and using idle 2 for harder 3D(2130) using 620 WC blades. I'm flying 7.5 minutes in idle 2 and only using 3100 ma out of 5000. I have no doubt that I will be able to fly at mixed HS's and be at 8.0 min. I'm installing telemetry tomorrow to keep track of pack voltage.

I'm having lots of fun, and this heli is making me look good

DX8, Ballistic FSO, Gaui X5, Warp 360, Vbar

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10-18-2010 04:37 AM  8 years agoPost 113
Brian B.

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Well I got to fly my heli for the second time today and all I can say is that I have a new favorite heli of the fleet. With the BeastX in everything felt so good and it just inspired me to fly better and harder. I flew for 6 minutes of light 3d and burnt about 3250mah's out of 2 5000mah 30c packs.

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10-27-2010 11:45 PM  8 years agoPost 114
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That's all I know is Trex so I bought a F6 here on RR and could not be any more excited. I finally got something different!!!!!! '

So hows everyone liking it.

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10-28-2010 12:25 AM  8 years agoPost 115
rich m

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So you pulled the trigger last night I see! Nice Rick you won't be disappointed.

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10-28-2010 01:05 AM  8 years agoPost 116
FenwayRick

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Yup can't wait

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10-28-2010 04:29 AM  8 years agoPost 117
Brian B.

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I really like this machine. Flies very smooth, tracks nice through manuevers and is a real pleasure to fly! Plus the kit is very nice and easy to put together.

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10-29-2010 03:41 AM  8 years agoPost 118
Razz

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Raptorwoody,

Glad you are enjoying your Furion 6. I may try a beastX...I set one up for a friend in a velocity 50...it was perfect for him in 'sport mode'.

What mode are you flying yours in? pro? Which blades?

Thanks,
brian

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10-30-2010 01:56 AM  8 years agoPost 119
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I am using regular Maverikk G5 620 blades. I am using expo set per transmitter (solid blue) and I have 30% expo in my transmitter. As for the tail and the pots right now, they are stock. I doubt I will move them from that spot as I like the way it feels. I have a BeastX in my Velocity too, but that is for a different time and place.

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