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08-12-2012 04:56 PM  5 years agoPost 281
fung_jeff

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I was wondering if anyone of you guys have converted the Raptor to 12s USING the clutch.

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Jeffrey Fung...15 Years old - FLEET: Evo 50, Raptor 30, Trex 500, SDX's, X-Spec, Logo 10/400

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08-12-2012 06:09 PM  5 years agoPost 282
Heli143

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Paul,
I am not using the soft start or gov on my ESC. I believe Emile does the same thing on most or all of his clutch conversions.
As for the pitch and throttle curves they are set up pretty much like the nitro versions with the throttle being set up in percentages depending on the heli power combo.

I hope I haven't confused you

Fung Jeff
I haven't had any reason to go to 12S yet but Emile might have on one of his so I will ask him to chime in.
My Long Ranger was flying on 6S and flew well in FFF but in a hover I had to use a lot of throttle to hover.
I went to 8S with a 4S sitting on each side of the frames and it flies and hovers like a dream.
My MD500 even with 5 blade head flew well on 6S but I plan to move up to probably 10S on that heli.

the only heli I have without a clutch is my Trex600 that is going into my blackhawk fuselage.

Roy Mayoral

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08-13-2012 02:11 AM  5 years agoPost 283
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I am not using the soft start or gov on my ESC. I believe Emile does the same thing on most or all of his clutch conversions
actually i use the soft start on all my setups. with a clutch, the softstart makes your clutched machine a poor man's turbine i havent selected a govorner mode but the esc's i use (castle turnegy and align all assume a gov mode when in stunt 1 or 2 mode because in these modes, when i reduce to low stick, the rpm stays the same. the castle's gov modes are a bit more complicated than i like to dealwith so i use simple/fixed end points and it works for me.
i use 12s on my bigger 60 size machines and the 50 size ones so far are all using 6s with one using 5s

drive a rotary, fly a rotorcraft

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08-13-2012 05:15 AM  5 years agoPost 284
fung_jeff

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I don't want to spend more money in batteries so I want to use my trex 500 batteries instead. Would a 90 sized motor just rip the drive train of the raptor as those are the motors that only fit the requirement of a clutch and 12s.

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Jeffrey Fung...15 Years old - FLEET: Evo 50, Raptor 30, Trex 500, SDX's, X-Spec, Logo 10/400

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08-13-2012 03:15 PM  5 years agoPost 285
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not sure what you are asking but a motor of the 90 class will have a lower kv rating and require more volts to give you good performance. if you use am otor around the 700-1100 kv area you should be good with 6s. not sure what you use in your 500. you can adapt a clutch to any size motor really, u just need the right prop adaptor. i have used motors with output shafts in the 5mm size without issues. larger sizes 6mm-8mm requires smoe mods if you cant find a prop adaptor and i am glad i have a lathe for that

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08-13-2012 03:39 PM  5 years agoPost 286
PJRono

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I wouldn't run a 12S motor with 5mm shaft, I've personally snapped a 5mm pinion shaft off on 10S.

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08-13-2012 11:43 PM  5 years agoPost 287
fung_jeff

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Could I buy the 5mm prop adaptor and get a milling machine to mill it out to 6mm or any other diameter I like?

Jeffrey Fung...15 Years old - FLEET: Evo 50, Raptor 30, Trex 500, SDX's, X-Spec, Logo 10/400

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08-13-2012 11:46 PM  5 years agoPost 288
fung_jeff

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I want to use my Trex500 batteries (6s 3300mah). They seem to be too small for a raptor 30/50 and I don't want to invest in more batteries. I'd like to series them so I get a 12s 3300mah flight pack. Using the HS Calculator, it shows I'm limited to using ~450kv motors because I want to use the raptor clutch.

Jeffrey Fung...15 Years old - FLEET: Evo 50, Raptor 30, Trex 500, SDX's, X-Spec, Logo 10/400

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09-12-2012 03:57 AM  5 years agoPost 289
rotornutz

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Hi guys just completed my raptor 50 conversion i'm running 10s 4500 ma 65c my heli is tipping the scale at 10 pounds it just seems on the heavy side

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09-12-2012 04:14 AM  5 years agoPost 290
Heli143

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I was using 6S in pod and boom on my raptor 50 conversion and it flew great and wasn't that heavy.

Once I installed it into a fuselage I changed to 8S batteries with 2 X 4S.

Roy Mayoral

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09-12-2012 02:06 PM  5 years agoPost 291
PJRono

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6S works better with the R50 conversion and 550 blades.

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10-01-2012 12:25 AM  5 years agoPost 292
Heli143

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When I went to IRCHA my heli refused to fly. no matter what Emile and I tried, it would not get off the ground. On the second attempt, Emile noticed the motor was wobbling although all the bolts were tight.
After tearing it apart I found the engine had busted pretty bad.
I installed a new Thunder Tiger 800Kv motor AND a new clutch bell just in case.
At Dalton, the heli flew fine but it made the loudest noise which we could not stop, so back to the house and pull it apart.

Since it flew fine and the only other thing that had been changed was the clutch bell, I pulled it apart and checked the bearings. I found the bottom bearing was notchy so I changed it.

The heli now flies smoothly and most importantly quietly. so if any of you have this kind of problem, do not forget to check the bearings and if there is any doubt, just change them.

Now I am going to detail and paint the fuselage and bring this project to an end.

As George Lopez says... I CAN'T WAIT!!!

Roy Mayoral

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01-21-2013 10:30 PM  5 years agoPost 293
Rotowerkz

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After my initial foray into electrifying my Raptor 50, I was not satisfied with the motor placement. Having a 4035-500 taking up space where batteries would be ideally located, I replicated Nasty1's idea of moving the motor up to the back (behind the main shaft), and using a 111T main gear from the Raptor e550/e620.

I used 12S as my working voltage, and found that with a 12T pinion (Scorpion 6mm pinion works well here), I was about get my Castle HV110 governor to hit around 2000 with no effort (setRPM mode).

I maidened the new configuration today. It flies much better now - the batteries are better protected (they sit where the fuel tank/engine used to sit), and the gearing is close to ideal. I'm running an Align Trex600 flybarred head at the moment, but I may bump this thing up to a FBL head soon. I had some SAB 620 Red Devil CF blades on it, and I really like the way they sound.

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01-21-2013 11:19 PM  5 years agoPost 294
PJRono

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Does it balance correctly? I would think that even with the servos up front that you would still need more weight up front.

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01-22-2013 12:03 AM  5 years agoPost 295
Rotowerkz

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It's slightly tail-heavy, but not bad. I have a 2S LiFe pack way up front, so that helps a bit. I guess I'll have to see how much weight will bring it into balance.

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01-22-2013 01:39 AM  5 years agoPost 296
Heli143

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Nice work roto!

Individuals finding different ways of doing these conversions is great for all of us interested in doing them and serves as a great learning tool also.

Thanks for Sharing!

Roy Mayoral

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02-17-2013 05:40 AM  5 years agoPost 297
DCORSAIR

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Electric Raptor Ecureuil
Just came across this post and thought I would share my conversion. It has stock Titan mechanics, Neu 1912/1.5 motor, CC 80HV, and running on two 4S-4000 lipo's in series mounted on each side of the fuse, had to leave the side windows out. I think I bought the mount from GrantL so it was already made for the Raptor. I'm using the stock clutch and gearing as well. Flies great and so smooth and stable. I'm up to about 6 1/2 minutes safely, only thing is it came out very heavy, I'm guessing 10-12 lbs or so I bet...

Here it is next to my TT Schweizer 300.

I didn't take any pics yet of the set up, got it flying so good I didn't want to touch it.

D. Lee.....t.Born again.t.....

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03-12-2013 03:43 AM  5 years agoPost 298
Heli143

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Nice!!!

Other than the motor it is almost identical setup I have on my two raptor conversions.

The electric conversion carries the weight like it don't care

Roy Mayoral

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09-24-2013 01:12 PM  4 years agoPost 299
DCORSAIR

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Raptor .50 conversion kit for sale

I decided to sell this setup for a Raptor .50, details in the classified electric motor section.

D. Lee.....t.Born again.t.....

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10-23-2013 10:50 PM  4 years agoPost 300
Raptor Pilot

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Some very nice conversions in this topic, have been thinking about converting one of my Raptor v2's for a while now and I now have a few ideas how to go about it from reading this topic. Thanks to all who posted in it.

If it doesnt move and its meant too... use WD 40. If it moves and its not meant too...use duct tape!

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