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05-01-2010 06:33 AM  8 years agoPost 21
Metalizer

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And they want to run a line of those rigs up and down the east coast???
No Fu$k!n Way.

This is crazy as just a few weeks ago i was talking to someone at work about how Obama was planing to drill off the east coast and not the west. I said with all the hurricanes ripping up through there that there would have to be a major catastrophe. O no he says. Cant happen. Hmmm...

Check this out. BP said such a disaster is unlikely to happen and never planed for one. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100501...l_rig_explosion

WTF is BP doing drilling on our shores Anyways.

Unlike some, i can not find any humor in this mess. But if you want to turn it into porn, how bought this.

All you way over payed, rich ciggar suckin, little pecker Fu$k!n brits, cap the holes and take your JUNK out of here. Go poison your own shores.

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05-01-2010 12:05 PM  8 years agoPost 22
TrexRookie

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Correction, it will cost BP, Anadarko, Cameron and Haliburton a ton of money.
Correction... the 'speculative cost/price' of oil will rise sharply due to this incident, thus passing the cost of this catastrophy on to the consumers... Since when does anyone hold oil companies accountable these days anyways?

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05-01-2010 12:18 PM  8 years agoPost 23
helibeast

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Yes they will use this as a reason to jack up prices. But its only one well out of hundreds,thousands? Saddam blew up dozens that burnt for a year and prices didn't sky rocket.

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05-01-2010 12:42 PM  8 years agoPost 24
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Correction... the 'speculative cost/price' of oil will rise sharply due to this incident, thus passing the cost of this catastrophy on to the consumers... Since when does anyone hold oil companies accountable these days anyways?
do you realize that this well was not a production well yet? They were just finishing up the well and didn't even have a production platform positioned over it.
And they want to run a line of those rigs up and down the east coast???
No Fu$k!n Way.

This is crazy as just a few weeks ago i was talking to someone at work about how Obama was planing to drill off the east coast and not the west. I said with all the hurricanes ripping up through there that there would have to be a major catastrophe. O no he says. Cant happen. Hmmm...
stop being so ignorant. you act as if this is an everyday occurrence. The occasional hurricane that targets the east coast is NOTHING compared to the North Sea storms that CONSTANTLY batter those rigs in that sea.

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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05-01-2010 01:15 PM  8 years agoPost 25
neilg.

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isn't there a ship that can act like a vaccumm cleaner and suck out oil and water and capture just the oil?

i know i have a vivid imagination

i hate to say it, but why can't BP just take responsibility and just say we F'kd up

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05-01-2010 04:48 PM  8 years agoPost 26
SSN Pru

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they have taken the responsibility, they are spending 11 million a day and have sent dozens of ships and helicopters. They are working on capping it.

The problem is it's just a gigantic disaster requiring the full 'resources' of the federal government

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05-01-2010 05:29 PM  8 years agoPost 27
philip 01

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Correction, it will cost BP, Anadarko, Cameron and Haliburton a ton of money.
negative. they will pass it right on to the consumer.

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05-01-2010 06:35 PM  8 years agoPost 28
Dennis (RIP)

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negative. they will pass it right on to the consumer.
Yup, we could easily see $5.00 per gallon gas this summer.

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05-01-2010 06:58 PM  8 years agoPost 29
Metalizer

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Spending 11 million a day ?
Well that just makes it all better. You believe what you read or do you know someone on the inside? Wandering about your own signature???

Bottom line is they should of been ready to deal with something like this quickly or dont drill under these complex conditions at all. Period!

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05-01-2010 07:54 PM  8 years agoPost 30
b.swett

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In 99.1% of cases, the normal, accepted and required safeties are all that's needed. In that last small %, there is noway to predict what would've and wouldn't have worked. In the catastrophic event that happened on the Horizon the only thing that could've changed the outcome would've been this acoustically operated SDV and that still would've allowed the rig have the blowout and killed people. The only thing that would've changed would be the size of the spill. It still would've taking time to get the acoustic device rigged up on a boat and get it to location and hope it had power to send the signal to the device. I dont know too much about these ASDV's, seems to be a little new to the side of the oilfield(GULF).

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05-01-2010 08:40 PM  8 years agoPost 31
pphil611

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oil
Do you guys realize how difficult is is to position a drill rig, and reach down a "MILE" or more and drill?
If our "do gooders" would let them drill on the surface (ie Alaska) its much easier, safer, and cheeper.

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05-01-2010 08:43 PM  8 years agoPost 32
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WTF is BP doing drilling on our shores Anyways.
I know, right? That's Russia's job.

So now the conspiracy theory is if the Obama administration let this crisis fester in order to shoot down pressure to open up more drilling. Not sure that would be enough if gas goes to $5. I'd argue that the government's part of the response was typical government incompetence. But you know the knives would be out if the last guy was still president.

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05-01-2010 11:47 PM  8 years agoPost 33
neilg.

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why does the federal government have to get involved???????????
(i know the governemtn must get involved)

if all the failsafe, state-of-the-art fancy-dancy 100% fool-proof well head shutsoffs worked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this is just like the coal mining industry. they can get the materials out of the ground but at what cost!

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05-02-2010 12:27 AM  8 years agoPost 34
SSN Pru

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Well that just makes it all better. You believe what you read or do you know someone on the inside?
LOL, you are so ignorant you don't even realize it.

provide some better information that what's readily available and I'll consider your position. Until then, GTFO with your childish remarks.
Bottom line is they should of been ready to deal with something like this quickly or dont drill under these complex conditions at all. Period!
What happened was a FREAK accident. How do I know it was a FREAK accident you ask? No, not because 'I know someone on the inside'. So, how you ask? It's simple.

It's NEVER happened before. If you did a bit of reading instead of spouting off at the mouth with ignorant comments then you'd know a bit more about what's going on yourself.

Your affliction may be cured, however, I believe you just suffer from the latter rather than the former.
Ignorance can be cured. Stupidity is for life!
Look at Rappy60's posts in this thread before replying.

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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05-02-2010 12:45 AM  8 years agoPost 35
TwistedRotor

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If our "do gooders" would let them drill on the surface (ie Alaska) its much easier, safer, and cheeper.
Really? The Exxon Valdez damage is still affecting that area. Do we really want to do that to the people of Alaska or anyone again?
Bottom line is they should of been ready to deal with something like this quickly or dont drill under these complex conditions at all. Period!
Agreed but unfortunately we don't live in that perfect world. I wish we did.

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05-02-2010 12:49 AM  8 years agoPost 36
SSN Pru

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Do we really want to do that to the people of Alaska or anyone again?
please turn in your vehicle and stop using gasoline.

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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05-02-2010 12:52 AM  8 years agoPost 37
555Ron

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What happened was a FREAK accident. How do I know it was a FREAK accident you ask? No, not because 'I know someone on the inside'. So, how you ask? It's simple.

It's NEVER happened before. If you did a bit of reading instead of spouting off at the mouth with ignorant comments then you'd know a bit more about what's going on yourself.
I like that. No need to investigate, hasn't happened before (apparently) so it probably won't happen again...

What about Piper Alpha. Just another FREAK accident, hadn't happened before so no need to look into the problems that caused it?

Oh ignorance is bliss.

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05-02-2010 04:49 AM  8 years agoPost 38
Rappy 60

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...he only thing that would've changed would be the size of the spill. It still would've taking time to get the acoustic device rigged up on a boat and get it to location and hope it had power to send the signal to the device. I dont know too much about these ASDV's, seems to be a little new to the side of the oilfield(GULF).
It would not of made a difference in this case, as the shear rams are not working. You could send acoustic pings all day long. No time to get the acoustic device rigged on a boat. They have small units on the life boats that they deploy and send the acoustic commands subsea. The subsea package has battery backup and charged accumulators (hydraulic pressure storage, similar to your air compressor cylinder).
What about Piper Alpha. Just another FREAK accident, hadn't happened before so no need to look into the problems that caused it?
Actually they did look into the problems on piper alpha and they implemented the work permit system as a result. This is a total freak accident, if you look at the total drilling around the world and calculate the number of catastrophes, I bet you will find that the % is very low.
WTF is BP doing drilling on our shores Anyways.
BP doesn't drill, it was Transocean and they are the ones who speced the rig and BOP. Ultimately its BP and Anadarko's responsibility as they own the lease from MMS.
Do you guys realize how difficult is is to position a drill rig, and reach down a "MILE" or more and drill?
Yep, 12+ hours to run down to 5000ft.
Correction, it will cost BP, Anadarko, Cameron and Haliburton a ton of money.
negative. they will pass it right on to the consumer
Huh, how do they do that. The price of oil is a commodity and is set everyday during trading. We are talking about one well here and it wasn't even producing. I don't think this is going to make a dent in the price of oil. What will make a dent is the political and public perception of drilling for oil in the US, that will have serious ramifications.

One last thing is that there is a lot of speculation in the media and reports that are just false. I think its a terrible situation and I hope it gets under control quickly.

Here is a link to some information on the current situation.

http://www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com/go/site/2931/

And some photos and diagrams. One shows that the rig is not on top of the well as some of the media have been reporting.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/uscgd8/

Dale

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05-02-2010 05:30 AM  8 years agoPost 39
b.swett

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Have you looked into the Piper Alpha tragedy. 2 separate works crews and neither one communicating w the other about ongoing work and nobody double checked the work permits. required watching here in the Gulf. Evidently someone doesn't know the facts.

Brian Swett

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05-02-2010 05:33 AM  8 years agoPost 40
b.swett

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+1 Rappy60, I know the shears aren't working was trying to make the point to whoever posted further back.

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