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04-29-2010 09:40 PM  8 years agoPost 1
wifeorheli

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hey guys my 600n is runnin +-11 deg. Now at full neg extremes swash binds. Thats ok right cause your hardly ever supposed to be having the sticks in that position right?

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04-29-2010 09:42 PM  8 years agoPost 2
michael88997

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if it bearly binds its ok... you can get a swash ring to stop that but you should never be there anyway... just make sure its bearly binding

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04-29-2010 09:46 PM  8 years agoPost 3
wifeorheli

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yea thats what i figured i have to go full neg then full cyclic and hold the cyclic and go positive for the swash to click back up.

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04-30-2010 01:44 AM  8 years agoPost 4
Yug

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That's ok. You just need to be mindfull of this during flight as you don't want to pop a link.

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04-30-2010 01:56 AM  8 years agoPost 5
MutantGarage

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Just dial your ATV back a notch, it's not like you can really use that last degree of pitch if it's going to bind. You sure don't want to crash because you were doing something and pushed the stick to the limit and popped a link.

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04-30-2010 02:09 PM  8 years agoPost 6
BarracudaHockey

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Yup, you shouldn't be binding.

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04-30-2010 05:30 PM  8 years agoPost 7
dela

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Listen carefully to what YUG and MutantGarage said!

If you have significant binding, each time it binds, you run the risk of having a ball-link pop off the ball.

Even if I rarely ever move the stick to the binding position, each time I do so, I run the risk of having a ball-link pop off the ball, followed by totally out of control, high powered flight.

It's not worth the risk to me. I setup so there is no binding.

Ron

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04-30-2010 06:56 PM  8 years agoPost 8
maveric4

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Guys,

When you check for binding I am assuming its at full neg and full pos collective.
When you check for binding where is the cyclic stick. Is it full aileron, full elevator, or is it in the cyclic corners.

Thanks

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04-30-2010 07:40 PM  8 years agoPost 9
BarracudaHockey

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Corners.

The problem is the stick is square and the swash is round.

You can get a fancy radio with an electronic cyclic ring and max out the throws.
Get a plastic cyclic ring and max out the throws.

Or set your throws so that you dont get any binding in the corners.

Or you can leave it be and risk popping a link.

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04-30-2010 08:08 PM  8 years agoPost 10
Four Stroker

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Popping a link is very entertaining except of course for you.

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04-30-2010 08:33 PM  8 years agoPost 11
LonR

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Any binding is not good at all,even if its a tiny bit.You can strip a servo wheel,pop a link,ware a link down fast,burn a servo up fast ect..

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04-30-2010 08:42 PM  8 years agoPost 12
Zaneman007

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Bind is no good. You do not want a link to pop off in flight.

I'd recommend a cyclic ring for your radio.

And make sure that there is no binding.

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04-30-2010 11:36 PM  8 years agoPost 13
maveric4

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Thanks for the info guys.

I will check mine. To check do you just turn the head and watch for any binding at these extremes.
Does it matter where the flybar is. Does the head need to be turned with the flybar at full tilt to the side.

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04-30-2010 11:38 PM  8 years agoPost 14
wifeorheli

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cool i will try to get it setup with no binding and see how it flies. How are guys gettin +-14 on there trex's

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05-01-2010 01:17 AM  8 years agoPost 15
outhouse

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450pros have a longer mainshaft

on the 600 the uk swash gives you more room

and of coarse FBL

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05-01-2010 02:48 AM  8 years agoPost 16
wifeorheli

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so does the le have a longer shaft? or is the le head just chrome

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05-01-2010 03:17 AM  8 years agoPost 17
MutantGarage

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I pull the blades off and spin the head with the flybar paddles at both extremes at full pos and neg pitch while I rotate the cyclic control through it's full range of motion. If there's binding, you will feel it in the flybar as you rotate it with a finger tip.
I also look for the bind points and rock back and forth on them and play with the radio and flybar to make sure they have some clearance to allow for slop in the mechanisms.

I think it's better to sacrifice collective range for cyclic range.
I'm still a bit of a beginner, so I've got the cyclic D/R 60% anyway, but with the D/R switch off, there is no binding anywhere.

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05-01-2010 06:43 PM  8 years agoPost 18
wifeorheli

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well i set my d/r to 66% on both thats what i have to do so it doesnt bind I cant sacrifice pitch i want atleast 11 my washout block isnt almost touching the head at full pos. I need a way to move the swash up but i got the new a-arm elevater setup and cant do that

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05-03-2010 04:36 AM  8 years agoPost 19
MutantGarage

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If you ever fly with D/R off, you're at risk of binding, correct?

I wouldn't do it, that extra degree or two of pitch is not worth the crash. If you really need the pitch, consider getting a different head or going flybarless.

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05-03-2010 04:57 AM  8 years agoPost 20
Spitfire1

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Its very difficult to get very much throws with the rex 600, even with only +- 12 each way it will bind on the rotation pins at the top or on the bearing at the bottom.

Usually I would agree binding at the extremes is bad, but your cyclic will be very limited if you dont with the trex 600.

I would take the risk and let it bind slightly, the only time you will be that far over anyway is in a panic moment just before you about to crash anyway.

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