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04-28-2010 07:48 AM  8 years agoPost 1
RajSingh

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Wondering if there is a list of people/companies who build gasser helis for a price.
Raj

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04-28-2010 12:37 PM  8 years agoPost 2
lperagallo

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Check out Bergen at http://Bergenrc.com

Lou

Twin Bergen 44Magnums FBL Wren NW44s - Kero start

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04-28-2010 02:25 PM  8 years agoPost 3
rbort

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Building
I've done several of those in the past, and can still do if you need it.

-=>Raja.

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05-01-2010 04:22 PM  8 years agoPost 4
Christopher J

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I still build for people as well.

Looking at your location Joe at East Coast Scale and Raja are pretty close.

Christopher J
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"Still all set & Flying the original"

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05-02-2010 02:27 AM  8 years agoPost 5
windy62

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Just make sure it's someone who knows how to build YOUR heli of choice.

Someone who's good with Century birds may not know all the tricks to an MA bird, etc...

windy62

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05-02-2010 02:31 AM  8 years agoPost 6
lazy-b

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Manila, Philippines

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Guys, whats the Normal Rate for Assembling a Gasser Helicopter ?

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05-02-2010 03:07 AM  8 years agoPost 7
Helizrule

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I have been going custom building for years. In the gasser department I specialize in Century Machines such as the Predators.

One mile of road will take you one mile. One mile of runway will take you anywhere in the world.

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05-03-2010 03:46 AM  8 years agoPost 8
classic

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When I did it a few years ago, I charged 500 bucks for a full build and set. But that was building PIA machines like the Joker and 3DMP helis. That may seem high but I almost never did the same exact model more then once, it was using every differant radio system know to man, And That was full build, set up and test flown.

If it had been a raptor or trex with a simple JR or futaba radio then it would have been half that. But the guy who I did most of my builds for always wanted something totally differant radio and heli wise...

But for the past year I have had no disire to build helis, even my own

Which is worse, ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care!

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05-03-2010 05:40 AM  8 years agoPost 9
rbort

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I would tend to agree
The amount of time spent to build a helicopter from the ground up, install the radio, program it, fly it, and fine tune everything on the field is over 20 hrs easy. I would say $500 would be on the low side with the high being around 1K to build a machine for someone else. I too did several for MIT, and earned right in this range.

-=>Raja.

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Spectra 27 3DMax, 3310 flts
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05-03-2010 12:06 PM  8 years agoPost 10
Helizrule

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That's right on Raja. I have been building custom machines since I was in high school and back then in the late 80's I charged nothing less than $300.00 for a GMP or Schluter build. Back then you had to build the wood radio tray, build and balance the wood blades, cut, glue and paint the canopy. A gasser is far more work than a Raptor not to mention the field set up. Lots of field hours to get it dialed in and programmed properly. I can't build a gasser for anything less than $500.00 or I am wasting my time.

One mile of road will take you one mile. One mile of runway will take you anywhere in the world.

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05-03-2010 12:11 PM  8 years agoPost 11
Rototerrier

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My god...I had no idea there was even a market for such a thing. I love building...never even thought about making money at it. I might have to start looking into this.

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05-03-2010 01:19 PM  8 years agoPost 12
helicenter

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Build
You cant make any money at it unless you are very good, and stand behind what you do.

Doug

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05-03-2010 06:09 PM  8 years agoPost 13
C.A.P.

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custer park IL.

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If you are a newbee, build it yourself, It makes for a good learning, You will know more about your heli this way, and if you need help with the final setup, I would go to Raja, He gives free setup advise all the time on RR, he is one of the best when it comes to free setups, besides your ARE, going to crash, and that money is gone, But if your are loaded, then knot your self out, I would go with a payed builder, Wally

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05-03-2010 07:29 PM  8 years agoPost 14
j.8

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Denmark

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If you are a newbee, build it yourself, It makes for a good learning
I don`t want to ruin anybodys buiness, but it`s very
good advice from CAP.

I allso belive that Bergen, helicenter, and experienced
people like Raja plus others inhere (gasser forum) if
they offer it, are capable to build and setup the heli
correct and safely.
But if that is how your heli is build, then you would
have to send it in for maintenance as well, helicopters
do not keep flying perfectly and safe by them self.

Regards Bo

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05-03-2010 08:44 PM  8 years agoPost 15
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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Plano, Texas

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I think I need to offer to build helicopters for people in my local area. I like building helicopters. And to think I could get paid $500+ for it? Sounds good to me.

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05-03-2010 10:25 PM  8 years agoPost 16
classic

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Justin,

It can be good money and not a bad idea if you like to build,
BUT, you have to be able to prove your good at it and that you really know how to do quality builds and set ups. Plus you need to be willing to stand behind it if something goes wrong.

The first guy who hired me had bought a heli RTF of mine and loved the set up and the percision I used to build it. He was very rich and said he could make more money working in his job and by paying me to build he would actually save money due to his time being so valuable to him. He owned about 15-20 RTF helicopters, all differant kinds, and I only built five for him. My other customers were two differant UAV companies that I built and test flew for.

Its good money but it is a lot of stress knowing that if something should ever go wrong, you could be held accountable, but the time investment. That is the two main reasons why I don't do it any more.

But if you do decide to do it I wish you the best!

Which is worse, ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care!

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05-04-2010 12:09 AM  8 years agoPost 17
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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Building a helicopter correctly is not big deal. So long as all the parts are machined correctly, then it should go nicely together. Building an airplane is another story. I have bought many ARF planks which had all sorts of misaligned and warped parts which required much sanding, drilling, and modifying. A helicopter should not require any modification. It is for this reason that I love building helicopters, and I hate building airplanes.

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05-04-2010 03:52 AM  8 years agoPost 18
classic

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Building a helicopter correctly is not big deal.
that is probably why you will not be hired right away.

Any guy with some tools can slap together a heli. But not any guy with some tools can build one properly with a perfect set up. For example,
If you don't use the right kind or the right amount of loctite in certain places, it can affect how a heli will fly or weither if it will stay together for any good amount of time.

If you think your eyes are good enough to align the servo wheels, and all the linkage to an exact 90 degree set up all the way up the head {if that is what the heli calls for} then your wrong. Most FAI guys use measureing tools to get it perfect.
That means No subtrim in the radio at all anywhere on the heli!

It is more then just building a heli, its being able to set it up perfectly so that flies like its on rails, basically a FAI set up. That kind of set up takes a lot longer then just setting a machine up for stick banging flight like 80-90% of the guys on here do.

Many true AP'ers want their helis set up perfectly where they can take their hands off the sticks and the heli will just sit there for 10-15 seconds before it slowly starts to drift.

And then there is making sure that the heli doesn't vibrate, if someone is paying someone to build and set up a RTF heli for them, it sure as heck better not vibrate.

See Justin, if the customer were building it, they wouldn't be that picky, but since someone else is building it, then it better be perfect!

Which is worse, ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care!

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05-04-2010 11:47 AM  8 years agoPost 19
doorman

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+1
CJames, is absolutely correct... it is not just a matter of "popping" a kit together....
And gassers also have their own set of rules to follow, when it comes to making them smooth and fly right... I have been building and flying gassers since about 2001, and it took a little while to realize those differences, and I agree 200% that you had better have the proper types of loctite, know how much of it and where to use it, and measurement tools.... the pitch and throttle curves will not be the straight lines that are on most of todays 3D type helis....

I also do builds for people... and it had better be 100% on when you deliver it..... and I am confident that I have built enough heli's since 1991, to be capable of building and setting up just about anything out there.... the only thing I have not worked on would be turbine model...

Stan

AMA 2918-Team Spin Blades,,Castle Creations, Unique Aircraft

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05-04-2010 12:48 PM  8 years agoPost 20
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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Most FAI guys use measureing tools to get it perfect.
What kind of special tools are you referring to? Swash plate leveler? What?

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