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04-29-2010 01:02 AM  8 years agoPost 61
DGS

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Thanks McKrackin!

I love these simple ideas that work.

Dave S.

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04-29-2010 01:09 AM  8 years agoPost 62
Corona007

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Zip tie
Why don't you just marry them then! lol, j/k

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04-29-2010 01:14 AM  8 years agoPost 63
Yug

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I'm glad to see someone else has used this method. I started using it a few years ago alongside my lasers to help get perfect alignment and minimal interaction. A good magnifying glass is also needed these days

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04-29-2010 01:14 AM  8 years agoPost 64
Ken Filloon

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Great job, now figue out how to set the blade tracking with a zip tie.

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04-29-2010 02:14 AM  8 years agoPost 65
McKrackin

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Great job, now figue out how to set the blade tracking with a zip tie.
For blade tracking,a zip won't help much but a turnbuckle in your linkages sure helps.
No longer limited to 1/4 turn adjustments.
I can do a millionth of a turn if I want to

I literally never use the word literally right.

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04-29-2010 02:41 AM  8 years agoPost 66
rcmike

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Good job. Nothing wrong with being creative and saving a little money. Personally I have never used a swash leveler and probably never will. It wasn't too many years ago there wasn't any such thing as a swash leveler. I bet most of the top pilots don't use one as well. I might try this method though just out of curiosity.

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04-29-2010 02:46 AM  8 years agoPost 67
SchmooDaddy

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For blade tracking,a zip won't help much but a turnbuckle in your linkages sure helps
I race pan cars and use turnbuckles through out the car to make adjustments. This is the first time I have seen them used on a heli.

Any idea why turnbuckles aren't used more frequently?

Schmoo

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04-29-2010 03:13 AM  8 years agoPost 68
snjbird

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I like that zip tie level, I have a few of the tool things, real Pain in the a$$! I have to give the zip tie a try! My 450pro has not had the level treatment since the swash is different than the Old 450 leveler! you mighta just saved me 15 bucks, Thanks

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04-29-2010 03:22 AM  8 years agoPost 69
Corona007

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Zip tie
Turnbuckels have been out for some time now...pretty cool if you ask me.

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04-29-2010 12:18 PM  8 years agoPost 70
jackheli

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Where do you get them?

It's easy to find an excuse to do wrong. Hard is not to find an excuse to do right.

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04-29-2010 01:36 PM  8 years agoPost 71
hootowl

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Where do I get zip ties?

LOL

Everybody is out of stock!

GREAT idea mckrackin!!!!

Thanks!

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04-29-2010 01:37 PM  8 years agoPost 72
playfair

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Personally I have never used a swash leveler and probably never will
I said this same thing a few years ago, then checked my "eyeballed" level with a tool, and found out how crooked my eyes were.
Did it matter in flight? You betcha. Maybe not so much for putzing around, but it sure makes rapid pitch changes "truer". When trimmed in hover either upright or inverted, you should be able to punch a straight climb.

The swash needs to be level throughout the entire pitch range.
Hopefully there's enough room on the shaft at top collective travel that I don't need to cut and install another tyrap under it, which would double the cost!


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04-29-2010 01:57 PM  8 years agoPost 73
hootowl

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What about trimming for hover lean?

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04-29-2010 06:44 PM  8 years agoPost 74
McKrackin

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Where do you get them?
Sorry but I don't know.
I had mine made for me.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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04-30-2010 06:59 PM  8 years agoPost 75
McKrackin

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The same guy that made my links made me some swash leveling tools too.
They work like the zip tie but are reusable.
I need to trim them to length and put a pointer on them but they are cool as hell.They fit perfect and are very rigid.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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04-30-2010 07:16 PM  8 years agoPost 76
McKrackin

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That's more like it

I literally never use the word literally right.

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05-02-2010 06:26 AM  8 years agoPost 77
X-Gear LLC

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mccrackin,

thanks for sharing that, I used it last night setting up a trex 250 and it worked flawlessly, i even leveled it again with the zip tie at an angle to prove you right. good job on this.

this is for the smart people that can't see how this works and continue to argue that it wont work

at what point in ones education does brilliance revert to stupidity and all common sense is lost? Every now and then i have to deal with a local engineer directly with the waterjet work, It can be like pulling teeth to get something through his head. I finally just agree with him and take care of the parts like i was going to do in the first place, he doesn't have a clue that i didn't listen to him and didn't make the part how he wanted. In the end, the parts exceeded what he was after, he continued to think he was right and I kept my hair.

Vibe 50 (V Bar) Protos 500 (Vbar) Trex 700 (Vbar)

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05-02-2010 02:10 PM  8 years agoPost 78
neilg.

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how do you hack zip tie off when you are done
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at what point in ones education does brilliance revert to stupidity and all common sense is lost? Every now and then i have to deal with a local engineer directly with the waterjet work, It can be like pulling teeth to get something through his head. I finally just agree with him and take care of the parts like i was going to do in the first place, he doesn't have a clue that i didn't listen to him and didn't make the part how he wanted. In the end, the parts exceeded what he was after, he continued to think he was right and I kept my hair.
1 problem with a reply is that sarcasim is not recognized

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05-02-2010 10:19 PM  8 years agoPost 79
Altrex

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I need help locating a metric zip tie. all mine are engrish

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05-02-2010 10:34 PM  8 years agoPost 80
LaurenceGough

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My own views:

I think Cable ties are too flexible to provide accurate results, but they are better than nothing I guess.

Also cutting them off could mark the main shaft, causing additional wear to the swash etc.

I use Trueblood swashplate levellers, no slop at all, slide smoothly and 100% accurate with 0 flex.

Saves you time, hassle and makes flight performance much better.

Cheers,

Laurence

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