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09-04-2017 08:47 PM  15 months agoPost 501
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Fantastic Fall2Fast! I'm glad our info is actually helpful!

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09-05-2017 09:36 PM  15 months agoPost 502
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@ NQNA
Interesting report about the metal mount improving tail bounce. I am running the Align MBX+ FBL, 74mm blades and the two piece metal tail shaft and never encountered any tail issues with full fast left right piros. You may be a more aggressive flier than me however. I bought the Tarot metal mount to show off the pretty servo better and it's a tad lighter and smaller than the stock one. Both perform equally well for me. Good to hear it helped for you.

EDIT: I just re read your post on the grips. You have a different FBL than I do. Your piro rate might be faster than mine. I am at stock settings and 100% on piro on the FBL and TX. I have been thinking about going to 110-120% on rudder end points to speed up the tail a bit.

Happy Flying !!!

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09-06-2017 04:46 AM  15 months agoPost 503
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Yesterday the winds were really blowing so the new blade grips had a really good test. The V2 perform much better, more stable and precise compared to the older version. I was very please, especially since the winds were 25+ and gusty.

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09-06-2017 10:16 PM  15 months agoPost 504
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Thank's everyone for the input on the V2's. I'll push the button on a pair and try them out. You guys sold me. That twitchy feeling to the 470 did surprise me. My 450's seem more precise.

Happy Flying everyone !!!

Bill S.

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09-11-2017 01:06 AM  15 months agoPost 505
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Any of you folks that have installed the V2 grips been concerned about having less thread on the pitch links ?

I am measuring ~ 2mm exposed thread per side on the turnbuckle pitch links with the V1 grips. The 500X servo to swash links links are the same thread size but 4mm longer, 2mm each side from center than the 470 pitch links. I was considering using those if you think the thread on the 470's pitch links were getting short for comfort.

What do you folks with the V2 grips think ??

Personally I thought the thread length was short on the V1 grip setup.

Ideas ???

Bill S.

BTW just got my V2 grips in the post box.

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09-11-2017 03:38 AM  15 months agoPost 506
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It looks like about 1.86mm or so on my links. I've had no problems.

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09-11-2017 05:15 PM  15 months agoPost 507
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EDIT: already answered on last page.

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09-16-2017 06:27 PM  15 months agoPost 508
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V2 Blade Grips For 470LM
Got the V2's on yesterday and went flying. Quite a different feel, kinda sluggish from what I was used to. I had been running 80% flat getting 5:30 min and 3.7 per cell on touch down. Now I am at 90% flat and that feels pretty good but lost 30 seconds flight time. I'm going out again today to get more used to them. I think overall I would have to say it is an improvement and definitely more consistent feel in hover and fff transition. I just have to get used to moving the sticks more in tight maneuvers. I might make a few FBL tweeks as well.

Bill S.

EDIT: After another round of flights today and a few FBL tweaks this V2 setup is definitely a worth while investment. Smooth performing without the "twitchy" feel.

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04-22-2018 12:26 AM  8 months agoPost 509
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Is everyone tuned up for the flying season? I will still be flying my 470 from last season with the belt drive tail, but we’ll see if I change that up.

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05-02-2018 05:10 PM  7 months agoPost 510
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Yep !! Already been out once this year then it got cold and rainy. Tomorrow is looking good. I bought a Tarot head block just to try and fitted it over the winter, don't waste your $$$. Switching and swapping dampers and spacers resulted in too tight or loose. Had to buy 2 .05mm shims for proper fit and the head button hole is not stock size thread.

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05-02-2018 10:42 PM  7 months agoPost 511
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I’ve always shied away from Tarot for just that reason. For me Saturday is looking good to start my helicopter season. Fingers crossed

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05-04-2018 05:40 PM  7 months agoPost 512
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Revive This Thread
Had a great day flying yesterday, 7 packs flown, sunny and 10 MPH winds at my back. I should have spent some sim time over the winter. Had a little first time out jitters and a few sloppy flips and left turns. Eight years on these things and that happens every year. I hope this thread can be revived a bit and get more folks posting.

On a side note: I had great luck with Tarot heads and thrust tails 5 years ago when I converted two 450 Pro's to FBL and Align parts fit them perfectly too, dampers and such even aftermarket like Trueblood, still flying them. The fit on this 470 head block was disappointing. I see they are now selling main grips as well. Buyer beware.

Bill S.

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05-04-2018 09:46 PM  7 months agoPost 513
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I’m with you on reviving the thread. I like to see what people are doing and if they’re having a good time!

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06-08-2018 02:22 AM  6 months agoPost 514
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Again today I lost a socket screw out of the tail rotor belt tension case. I think I will try a 12mm screw instead of the 10mm Align is using. Maybe that will allow the tension to remain tight but still have some treads. Or locktite

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06-08-2018 02:11 PM  6 months agoPost 515
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If you are talking about the two screws for tension adjustment I used blue loctite and I have removed them several times and re-loctited them each time. The stuff has built up on the threads and I have had no loosening in near 100 flights. Perhaps that helps.

Bill S.

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06-09-2018 06:48 PM  6 months agoPost 516
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@NQNA another thought... I use loctite as mentioned and at 1 3/4 turns out each the witness marks of where the loctite was on the threads is more than the thickness of the tensioner so a longer bolt would not be necessary.

JMHO.

Bill S.

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06-10-2018 01:21 AM  6 months agoPost 517
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Thx Velocity. I’m going to take another look at it tomorrow and see what I decide. It seems like I used locktite the last time I lost a screw which is why I was surprised to loose one again.. I'll give some feedback.

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06-21-2018 08:57 PM  6 months agoPost 518
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I decided to do a test. I used a small amount of locktite on the 10mm screw and on the other side I installed a 12mm screw without locktite. Two flights so far and no screws missing. We’ll see what happens.

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06-22-2018 11:52 PM  5 months agoPost 519
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I just sauced up half the thread of the screw since I wasn't sure where it would end up on the thread when adjusted correctly. I do have a lot of gunk now on my screws but they have now held adjustment for many flights. Please report back on your findings. I't seems just the two of us are posting here as of late.

Bill S

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09-14-2018 04:49 PM  3 months agoPost 520
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Been flying at my usual place and the last few times there has been bees that land on my glasses. They stay away while setting up and getting things ready but once I get in the air... 2 close saves on my 450's and this time the 470 was just too low. The damage was surprisingly light, feathering and main shaft, main gear, servo horn, skids, slight boom bend, main blades, and a broken belt. Surprisingly hard on bearings however, all 4 grip radial bearings and the two upper mains. The Super Combo servos, and the Fusuno canopy seem to have emerged unscathed.

Getting it back together now.

Bill S.

EDIT: Forgot one thing, check the grub screw on the pinion. The pinion spun past the flat on the shaft but was snug and still visibly at the correct height. I usually replace that screw anyway but a reminder of how important that is.

UPDATE: After taking it out to the field I had a noticeable tail wag. To my surprise I found a slightly bent tail shaft. So two bearings and a hub just in case and all spins up smooth on the bench. I didn't even really check out the tail in depth since it went in on the other side, the tail blades didn't get nicked and no scratches on the grips. Surprising how forces can travel with no apparent direct hit in that area. By the bend in the boom one would think it went it on the rotor side. Possibly a boom strike but I don't see any dent in the boom.

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