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04-27-2010 11:53 AM  8 years agoPost 61
SidewaysLS4

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Give it time

The tail kick happens far and few between, but it is a common trend with a lot of people. Then the bobbing...

I really hope they allow interface with the software soon (or the damn adapter for that matter), really wish these things could be on-par with the Skookum units. I got 2 helis suffering with the wonky 'one-size fits not many' default settings.

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04-27-2010 11:58 AM  8 years agoPost 62
iHover

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I'm a good 24 flights in with no problems.

You had me at Hover

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04-28-2010 03:42 AM  8 years agoPost 63
basmntdweller

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I tried something today on my 3G and it seems to have worked very well for me. I got my V2 update at Toledo. The tail was better but not what I wanted to see. I had my sensor mounted on one piece of 3M tape and strapped down hard with velcro. Today I grabbed a piece of carbide out of my toolbox at work. It was 1" square and 3/16 thick. For those that don't know, carbide is a very dense, hard "metal" used as a cutting tool for steel. Anyway I used this carbide as a dampener between the sensor and the heli. Other mfgs use a metal plate for their gyros so I figured this was worth a try. I put down 2 layers of 3M, the carbide, another layer of 3M and then the sensor. I tested it first without any velcro. It was as solid any of the 401s I have ever used on previous helis and it was windy today so I knew it was doing a great job. I landed and put the velcro on, mostly because I have had a gyro come loose before and I like that added security. I couldn't tell any difference with the velcro on so right now, I'm very happy with my 700LE 3G. I can still make it bobble on a hard stop but so does my flybarred 700 so I'm not gonna complain about that minor issue.

Matt


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04-29-2010 03:15 AM  8 years agoPost 64
Kevin Dalrymple

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I'm a good 24 flights in with no problems
I have 4+ gallons on mine, and still lovin it.

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04-29-2010 05:04 AM  8 years agoPost 65
woop

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I think that depending on you skill level you may or may not find the weaknesses of the 3g, I own both 3g and vbar, I flew the 3g and I think that it's a great system but when it comes to piroflips on a windy day you will notice the inconsistency in the piro rate, I never had a problem with the 3G tail, I think the 3G is very sensitive to vibrations more than other systems out there, bottom line is you heli has to be in tip top shape for the 3g to work perfectly, check all you bearings, loose ball links, and so on, you get the point.

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04-29-2010 10:44 PM  8 years agoPost 66
Kevin Dalrymple

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I think that depending on you skill level you may or may not find the weaknesses of the 3g, I own both 3g and vbar, I flew the 3g and I think that it's a great system but when it comes to piroflips on a windy day you will notice the inconsistency in the piro rate,
My skill level is not high when it comes to flybarless. i would like to try Vbar. The tail piro rate is bad, but the basics is what i am finding that most people are missing. It the cheapest system out there and it shows compared to Vbar. If you want your heli to fly like a Vbar system than buy a Vbar system.

I never had a fly barless system before so to me it works as good as a fly bar heli, except for the tail.

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04-30-2010 07:34 AM  8 years agoPost 67
m4rt

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Youkay

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Rymps, That is not the point........ The point is, if Align are going to put a product on the market, then it should be equal or better than what has gone before. If they choose to price it lower than their competitors, then that is up to them, but don't use us as a guinea pig to test their products. "V" Bar got it right through their own testing.

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04-30-2010 10:58 AM  8 years agoPost 68
WIRLYBIRD

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CAPE TOWN / SOUTH AFRICA.

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But because there was nothing else out there , they could take the time to do the self testing!!! The new lot are loosing market everyday their product isn't out there , hence the hasty entry into the market , so we all end up testers!!!
Dave.

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04-30-2010 03:30 PM  8 years agoPost 69
Helimike

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Anyone have news on the up date?
Michael

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04-30-2010 03:39 PM  8 years agoPost 70
Riq

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ND

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I cant believe I still have these, and they fly decent at best.

In NoDak we have wind a lot, and I fly a vbar a lot in the wind. The 3g is terrible in the wind.

I can fly the 250 with 3g on a non-windy day and think wow, this isnt too bad, fast and agile. But, when the wind comes up, I have to fight it, and hope it doesnt bob and weave into the ground. Piro consistency, forget about it.

The 250 was a waste of time trying the 3g on, as with a flybar it was fast and predictable. The only advantage for me is that my gorilla hands wont bend up the little flybar and head parts man handling it.

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04-30-2010 06:44 PM  8 years agoPost 71
iHover

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I you kidding. How much wind do you expect a 250 to handle? Anything more than a slight breeze with the flybar makes the thing a handful.
I have the 3G on a 600, I live in hill country out here in upstate NY. We often have wind to deal with. The 600 with the 3G handels it great. I really noticed this practicing inverted with the wind blowing at the side of the Heli.
Try putting the 3G on something thats capable of handling wind in the 1st place.

You had me at Hover

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04-30-2010 07:19 PM  8 years agoPost 72
Riq

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I was only comparing it with and without the flybar, and with and without vbar. With the flybar, the 250 is very manageable in the wind.
I understand the nature of the 250.

And yes, ive ran the 3g on a lot of larger birds and tryed to get them to fly similar to a vbar, and never felt fully confident in the way they fly. Sure they have lots of power and great cyclic, but the vbars spoiled me in what to expect. The 3g's just dont give me absolute confidence in it yet...thats what I hope v2 or v.X, or a cable will help with.

I dont feel great about bobbles, tail kicks, and whatnot on the 3 3gs ive tested thus far, but im still trying more stuff. Im trying diff methods of holding it down, tape and plates, still adjusting the pots, and diff dampeners. Im not giving up, just want a cable or update, or the magic oil to get these going without issue.

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05-02-2010 11:36 AM  8 years agoPost 73
Graphite74

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05-02-2010 02:11 PM  8 years agoPost 74
DALEPABAJO69

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well it's about time finally something over the horizon.
let's just hope it doesnt take to long before the rest of us regular folk's get it hook-up on our heli's.

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05-02-2010 03:21 PM  8 years agoPost 75
Graphite74

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It says one week view to be launched, say they will get the firmware revision, the V2 with the dongle and software.

Let's see if it's true! this will greatly enhance the setting, a greetings and a hug

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05-02-2010 03:34 PM  8 years agoPost 76
Fnity

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Hey guys I'm new to FBL and have the 3g 700E coming, was told I could use my gyro of choice on the 3G system, and was wondering if this is true? I have read most of the thread here and its a bit, discouraging having the 3G on its way to hear about all the people that are having trouble, and even putting their machines in... Any advice would be appreciated, this will be the 1st FBL heli, in my area and there is no local help for FBL. I talked to a guy at a recent FF that had 3 align FBL helis and 700E on its way also, and he and his brother looked great with them. He said to pretty much just follow the manual and made it sound like cake, just the flying(feel) is what he said took time to get use-to.....

Frank Leyva
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05-02-2010 03:41 PM  8 years agoPost 77
DALEPABAJO69

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looking closely at the photos,it seem's similar to a Vbar software just a little less complex though.
if they said a week I honestly dont think so,by the looks of it there still fiddleing with it.
but at least there's something around the corner.
let see how much the USB adapter will cost us?
I figure the first three tab's are just regular set-up and the other tthree are for fine tuneing

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05-02-2010 03:42 PM  8 years agoPost 78
DALEPABAJO69

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looks like to me on the fourth tab at the bottom of there srceen is where you would set tail gyro gain.
the last tab I figure should be base gains and rates

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05-02-2010 04:05 PM  8 years agoPost 79
DALEPABAJO69

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Fnity,it does take some time to get use to flying flybarless but it is kinda of the same,I would suggest no cyclic inputs on spool up cause the gyro would tend to over correct it self.
pitch is a whole lot faster than normal since it does rev. up a little faster but you should be able to handle it if you set up your gyro correctly.
useing seperate tail gyro besides the 3G's is posible you just not need to connect the tail gyro plug.
but what's the fun in that if you cant use the whole system,I mean this 3G does have it's quirk's,I suggest set up you'r whole system as per manual see how it flies and figure out the bug's later.
Align should figure all this stuff out and have a fix for it.

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05-02-2010 06:15 PM  8 years agoPost 80
Fnity

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Thanks DALEPABAJO69, I had also figured that if the 700E 3G didn't feel right I would use the TotalG and throw the 3G on my 600, or 500....
I will try it stock for now, and see how I like it.

Frank Leyva
Rave, Next-D, Radix
Scorpion Power Systems
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