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04-10-2010 03:53 PM  8 years agoPost 21
ShuRugal

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if you want a spektrum/jr radio with over 7 channels, you'll break the 500 mark, as the next one up is a JR 9-channel. You might find a good deal on a used one if you look around though

Futaba or spektrum/JR will be fine for robustness, as they both use active frequency-shifting. Cheaper 2.4 systems like Airtronics simply pick a frequency on startup and stay with it the whole flight.

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04-10-2010 04:01 PM  8 years agoPost 22
lrogers

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FEMA makes electric starters for the Zenoah engines. They are not cheap, but don't look to be to hard to install. I called customer support at Hobby Lobby (not the arts/crafts Hobby Lobby) and was told that they could get me the correct started for my G-26. I'm thinking about installing one myself when I turn the Mongoose into a Cobra.

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04-10-2010 04:17 PM  8 years agoPost 23
Adaboy

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On board gen.
IR,

did you say that the mongoose has an on board generator, or does the g26 have it? Also how are you starting you gasser now? And do you have one scale? I going to check out your gallery now.

Thanks.

Sounds like were cooking with gas....

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04-10-2010 05:41 PM  8 years agoPost 24
lrogers

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The generator is an option for the Mongoose. It's one of the Jewel generators that Raja (rbort) makes. It's a motor that is turned by the counter shaft (the one that drives the tail rotor). It has a voltage regulator that plugs into an open slot on the receiver. Once the helo spools up, there is a green indicator that shows the generator is functioning. It will supply all the power needs of the receiver, governor and servos AND keep the battery topped off. I've gone to field, flown all afternoon and had the battery show a better charge than when I went! Mine is a single output model and there is a dual output model too that a lot of the guys doing aerial photography work use to power the pan/tilt of their cameras.

At this point, I'm using the recoil starter that comes with the G-26. Choke the engine, push the priming bulb about 20 times, pull once, open the choke and pull until it starts, usually on the 2nd or 3rd pull.

At this point, I have a .50 size scale H-500D and the 60-90 size Sea King that is under construction. I had an Airwolf on my T-Rex, but that was damaged beyond repair in a crash. When I rebuild the T-Rex this time, it's going back scale; probably an Air Star with a 3 blade head.

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04-10-2010 08:21 PM  8 years agoPost 25
Adaboy

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Damaged TREX
IR sorry to hear about your airwolf scale as it looked awesome in your gallery. I checked out your new project scale model and I must say that's a huge beautiful bird!!! I looked at that myself but thought I may not be able to fly it without getting in the cockpit lol.

Tell me your thoughts on the Blade 400 3D RTF Electric Heli. I just got back from one of the hobby shops here in Dallas and they were pushing this as the best way to start. It comes with a Futaba radio and only needs batts and charger and blade adjustments.

Help me out here my gut is telling me not to waist money on a smaller bird like this. If I have to start out smaller than the gasser I want do I have to start with that one? The TREX 450 they said handled better and the cost was a little more not including the radio. I saw it but still think it's too small. Maybe I don't completely understand help me.

Thanks

Sounds like were cooking with gas....

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04-10-2010 09:24 PM  8 years agoPost 26
payne1967

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the larger the heli the more stable it is
but the cost to repair is greater
before all the small electric craze the 30 size heli was king in the uk to learn on
today's 30's have grown to a 50 size (yes you can still get 30 class heli's)
why i don't recommend a 450 to learn on is that they are too unstable for a beginer
a 30 or 50 machine is far better
as you're looking into scale a 30 or 50 will make a good scale project after you've learnt to fly

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04-11-2010 12:39 AM  8 years agoPost 27
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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If you buy an Align heli, you can by parts at nearly every hobby shop. Have you been to Aero Hobbies in Lewisville yet? Andy will hook you up.

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04-11-2010 03:38 AM  8 years agoPost 28
lrogers

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Yeah, it sucked to lose the little Airwolf. It looked really cool in the air. During the post crash investigation, I discovered that I had made a VERY stupid mistake during the assembly. I swapped out the tail rotor servo with a faster one. I thought I had the arm centered, but...... Loosing a bird because of a really stupid set up mistake at such a basic level really chapped my hide. I can say with 100% confidence that I will NEVER make that mistake again! Besides, there are 100's of other mistakes I can make!

I don't know too much about the Blade 400. From what I've heard, it's an okay machine, but the servos are not too hot. It's about the same size as the T-Rex 450. If it came down to a choice between those two, the T-Rex 450 would be my choice.

As I stated earlier, I think the .30-.50 class machine is the better choice to learn on because of the better stability. The T-Rex 600 nitro is in this class. You might also want to check out the Raptor 50, the Raven and the Pantera.

As was pointed out above, there are a lot of nice fuselages out there for the 50 class. The prepainted Funkey fuselages (http://www.heliworld.com) are a quick way to get into scale. They can be assembled straight out of the box in a couple of days or you can start adding more scale details and turn them into contest winners. Take a look at Copter Doctor's gallery. He took a Funkey H-500E and added a cockpit and other details to it. I think he took 2nd or 3rd at Nationals with it.

Pop on down the discussion list here on RR and take a look at the beginners sections as well as the heli specific sections. You can get a ton of information on the various heli's out there and see what others think of them. Here you can quickly find all the pros and cons of various models.

One more thing to think about. When I bought my T-Rex 450 and got it ready to fly, there wasn't a whole lot of difference in cost between it and my Hawk. It was cheaper, but not as much as I would have believed. Granted, the cost of Lipo's has come down a lot in the last year or two and that would widen the gap some. However, I still don't think the difference in cost offsets the difference in stability you get in a larger machine.

Larry Rogers - R/C Helicopter Pilot

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04-11-2010 01:42 PM  8 years agoPost 29
broggyr

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I have to agree about the stability of larger machines. I went from a Falcon40 (fixed pitch) to a Honey Bee King II (first collective-pitch machine) to a Miniature Aircraft 1005 Gasser. The length of this heli is longer than the other two helis combined. Definitely more stable. However, my learning curve has almost flattened, as I can't afford to put a $1,000 hole in the ground if I can help it...

- Brian
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