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04-07-2010 07:37 PM  8 years agoPost 1
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rrApprentice

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I'm in the market to buy a heli for AP work!(photo/video).
There are too many choices out there...not sure which one to pick.
Maximum load is about 21.0 lbs included the camera mount stuffs.
I'm looking at Bergen gasser Industrial,
Spectra G and Century Predator.
But I never own a gasser heli before could someone here recommending me one. I'm also consider electric heli too but afriad 21 lbs is too much for the heli.

Greatly appreciated if someone here can helps!

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04-07-2010 08:12 PM  8 years agoPost 2
rxwarrior

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Personally I would go with the bergen, because there is not a better person to deal with than Cris Bergen. He will talk to you anytime with any problems you might have.

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04-07-2010 08:13 PM  8 years agoPost 3
oldfart

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Check with gjestico here on RR, he has some awsome big electric helis that he uses for AP work.

Gassers work better then nitros for AP work because they do not hae as much residual smoke, but they do have higher amlitude vibration nodes.

The nitros can be geared for good lifting, but the smoke gets everywhere. (I have lifted a total airborn weight of 23 lbs easily with a Predator 90 nitro)

But a big electric is not only very smooth, but has no smoke. SO that would be the route I would look into.

Phil

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04-07-2010 08:37 PM  8 years agoPost 4
helicenter

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electric
There are a lot of 35 pound electric scale machines running very well, you need the right gearing with the proper batteries.

I have two scale machines that are in the 21 pound weight range that fly well with a solid 12 min flight time.

Doug

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04-07-2010 09:01 PM  8 years agoPost 5
Chris Bergen

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Tried to send PM, but your PM center is turned off...

Chris D. Bergen

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04-07-2010 10:21 PM  8 years agoPost 6
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rrApprentice

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Thank you All for your feedback.

Chris, I'm not sure why that PM is off.
Should be on now I hope.

Anyway, I'm still thinking about the gasser.
I love electric but kind of expensive especially the battery.
But for sure I will own them in the near future...for now I really want to get the gasser up running to do the job.

So, Bergen is my first choice so far on the list after some research today. Predator seem very reasonable in price.

Most importantly is I have to got a reliable heli. and robust design. because I don't want to upset my partner professional equipments.

Thanks,

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04-08-2010 04:25 AM  8 years agoPost 7
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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The Spectra is a finicky helicopter. I'm not sure I would recommend it for AP work. The Bergen Observer allows you to mount a camera out front.

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04-08-2010 01:37 PM  8 years agoPost 8
Chris Bergen

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Here's the error I get,
Error Message BACK
Chapter has chosen not to receive private messages.
To send this member an email click here.
Go into "MY Home" Then "Edit Options", click Yes on receive PM's...

Or you can call us...

Chris D. Bergen

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04-08-2010 01:48 PM  8 years agoPost 9
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rrApprentice

Savannah, usa

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Sorry Chris,
I got it fix.
Thanks

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04-08-2010 05:35 PM  8 years agoPost 10
guilartec

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longer flight times, more power available, almost no smoke (?), I think a gasser should be better for this applicacion.

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04-08-2010 07:52 PM  8 years agoPost 11
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rrApprentice

Savannah, usa

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Thanks Justin and Guilartect.

So, the two gasser helis. I think that will work for me and made on my final list are:
The Bergen Intrepid GAS EB and Century Predator Condor NX v2.0.
Condor is a very popular one and has good reviews but I don't know much about the Intrepid. Anyone here own this kit? and it's performance?

Price for the Condor with G26 BH Hanson mod.
Is $1849 not that cheap that I thought.
Not sure what is the price for the Intrepid EB with same engine G26 BH Hanson mod. will cost...

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04-09-2010 12:08 AM  8 years agoPost 12
rxwarrior

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Mishawaka In. USA

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Go to bergenrc.com the prices are there, and you will get top notch service. the Intrepid EB is $1520.00 with the G26 zenoah give Chris a call at 1-(269)663-2060 you will love the expert help you will get there.

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04-09-2010 01:16 PM  8 years agoPost 13
AceBird

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Utica, NY USA

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I am surprised you didn't post your question here:
https://rc.runryder.com/f25p1/

You asked for robust and well experienced so I would go with Bergen. The Predator Condor is a more modern design but doesn't have the track record that Bergen has to date. You will also need lots of personal help with a gasser if you are not well experienced with one.

The G is not suited for heavy lifting in my opinion.

Ace
What could be more fun?

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04-09-2010 11:15 PM  8 years agoPost 14
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rrApprentice

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Thanks AceBird,

Yes, I'm talking with Chris Bergen right now and hopefully I will end up with a Bergen kit.

I heard gasser engine do have problem crusing at high altitude if you don't tune the engine correctly.

JR gasser GSR 260 model offering at Airfoil is a very cool one too but its a little more expensive.

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04-10-2010 07:11 AM  8 years agoPost 15
3kidzheli

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Could find a used prredator and convert it over to condor for much less than retail on one. I have a pred gasser with han 26 still on 720 's and condor tail and it has a jprather mount that is doing very well. The cam system could be alot heavier and would be even better pic quality but I am usng light weight/cheap/small equip. I have had my pred for 6 yrs NEVER had a prob nor engine failure, I have good help (Bill Meadors) on the century stuff but would love a benzin and $ is why I don't so if that is your issue a pred is great. I found a pred for a grand that is ready to fly so they are out there... If I could do it how I know is right, get a frame and check into the zen mod motors, Bill's engines run like a smooth porche no vibe...

There is no such thing as up, it's all out...

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04-10-2010 03:03 PM  8 years agoPost 16
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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Is the JR gasser still for sale?

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04-10-2010 03:27 PM  8 years agoPost 17
shawmcky

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Edit
oops,wrong place

Team- unbiased opinion.K.I.S.S principle upheld here

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04-10-2010 04:29 PM  8 years agoPost 18
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rrApprentice

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Yeah, JR GSR gasser is selling at Airfoil site.
The kit is selling for $2200.

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