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04-05-2010 01:42 PM  8 years agoPost 1
Rookie400

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I wonder: Those of you who use simulators for practice, how do you go about it? I mean, are there any particular method you prefer?

As for me, using Phoenix (AFPD before that), I deliberately use different el-models to force myself to rely less on a particular model's characteristics and instead force myself to pay more attention to what is going on in front of me. I usually start off with the T-Rex 600 for increased stability and then move down gradually to the smaller, more agile ones (I have and am preparing to fly a Blade 400). I could go the other way around, from the most agile to the more sluggish ones but at my current skill level, the 600 gives me a handful already.

I am currently learning to hover and what I do for each model is, I start off at 100% simulation speed and increase the speed by 5% increments until I can do what I intend at maximum simulation speed, then go back to 100% for another round. Two or three rounds and I go for a smaller model and repeat. When I have reached max sim speed for the smallest model I return to the largest, which by now seems to move ridiculously slow, then repeat from the top the entire routine. I will increase wind/turbulence strenght also, from calm to pretty gusty. Calm first because I want to know that any loss of control is due to my lack of skills and not conditions I wouldn't be ready for anyway.

I can't say if this is THE best way, it's only my way of doing it.

What methods/routines are you using?

(Also: For Phoenix/Blade400 owners: What setups in Phoenix will give me the heli closest to the real thing? A sim is good and all but it's still just a sim, and I believe a bit of tweaking might give me a 400 that is as close to the real 400 as Phoenix can give me)

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04-14-2010 11:33 PM  8 years agoPost 2
dlflyer

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I chose the model I own. I practice hovering in all modes. Moving to a new mode only after mastering the one I started with,tail in. It takes self control to only hover and not get caught up in forward flight before you master your hovering.

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04-15-2010 04:32 PM  8 years agoPost 3
Rogman88

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I've heard pro guys say that you need to fly one helicopter until you can fly the crap out of it. Many new pilots start buying different sized heli's because they "get the bug" and want everything out there. They become a "jack of all trades and master of none". If you are starting with a blade 400, I'd recommend choosing a 400 on the sim and fly the crap out of it. Spend a couple of minutes at the beginning drilling orientations. That quickly becomes frustrating and boring so transition to fast forward flight and new moves that are fun to practice. I learned in college not to cram all night before a test but study in little bursts every day and you'll retain more in less time. For example 10 minutes of flight time every day for a week is far more productive than a hone hour session on saturday. Here's an in depth thread on my sim time.

https://rc.runryder.com/t578724p1/

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04-17-2010 01:28 PM  8 years agoPost 4
Rookie400

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Thanks for the input, guys!

Dlflyer: I for one has to totally agree with you about self control and not rushing it. When looking back at my last go, I see that this is something I do need to "practice",to get better at. My B400 hovering is "ok", I believe but not good enough (Radd's 1 foot square is still not quite there and yes, I want to have that small 400 within that square o_O ), still I have looked at FF and bank turns. Impatience. Furthermore I have been taught the lesson not every day is the same, some days are "just not the right day for flying". More on the list of things to learn, to ask myself if I'm fit for it that day, and to answer truthfully. I still have some impatience to get rid of. Let's hope and pray I won't be bitten by the "so much to prove" bug Nasty bug, that one is.

Rogman88: Never turn a deaf ear to pro guys It's true that I try other models, not only helis. I like to take a break from practice with the Cessna 182 or the Osprey (coz that's a machine too fun to give it a miss) but when it comes to helis, I don't know. Perhaps it's the increased stability of the larger helis, they give me more time to observe, and I won't lie: Hovering the 400 within a 1 foot square in 2-4 m/s wind is devilishly difficult and yes, frustrating when I don't have the time to really grasp what just happened. I suppose I believe the sluggishness of a T-Rex 600 is helping me, but I do see your point and perhaps I'm really not helping myself at all, only slowing the learning process down. I really don't know.

What I do know is that I still have some way to go to feel really comfortable with taking the 400 up for the first time but I believe Radd is the way to go and if that means 20 battery packs (no 10 minutes of practice on these batteries), then so be it

PS: Guess who found out his DX6i needs to be sent back to Horizon? The monitor shows smooth moovements but the T/CP stick is off centre by quite a lot. 0% and 100% are good but centre stick is for some reason not giving me a centre on the monitor. Oh well, more time to prepare my mind for this

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04-26-2010 05:47 AM  8 years agoPost 5
chopper_crazy

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I always fly the same helicopter everytime I am on the simulator. I try to fly a routine that I will do in real life. I look at it as a learning tool not a video game.

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04-26-2010 04:24 PM  8 years agoPost 6
Rogman88

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I try to fly a routine that I will do in real life. I look at it as a learning tool not a video game
Yep that's exactly how my sim time has evolved. Now that my orientations are down pretty good I've started doing a routine so I won't forget maneuvers. The problem that I was having during my real flights was that I'd land and realize that I was doing the same stuff over and over and had forgotten to do something that I'd meant to practice. So what I did was make a pneumonic BIS-FITTNAR which is the acronym for:
Bounce piros - I have several variations
Inverted controlled piros- transitioned to inverted flight and funnels
Stationary rolls - usually nose in to get my nose in practice
Flips - now transitioned to making shapes with my flips
Tic tocs - 4 point, 2 point, tic toc circles
Tail stands - straight and with piros
Nose stands - straight and with piros
Aleron stands - straight and with piros, and transitioning with half piros to go between all three
Rainbows - (with flip/half flip, piro and stops in the middle, nose up and nose down

Then do some big moves thrown in like funnels, tail slides, outside/inside loops, 450 degree knife edge cobra piros, just basically stuff to break up the small moves in BISFITNAR.
So I basically wrote this down on a piece of paper and started flying it on the SIM until I had it in memory. Now when I go to the field with my real heli's I've already got my routine structure so that I can vary every flight but still have some structure as to not do the same exact routine every time.

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