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04-04-2010 06:33 PM  10 years ago
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Scott1115

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500 machine - advice
I have decided to jump back into RC Heli's after 20+ year "vacation." New advances in everything make it seem easier to re-learn and fly. I still expect to have my share of crashes!

I think, based upon what I've read, a 500 size helicopter would suit my needs best. My past experience still haunts me where bigger meant more stable and more manageable. But a 600 and 700 might just be a bit out of my $$ range . There are so many choices now, and many companies appear to make quality birds.

I am looking for:
1. quality build and quality parts
2. access to parts/availability (remember I plan to crash)
3. flight worthiness
4. beginner friendly (by de-tuning) with ability to grow.

Please make suggestions, pros/cons, etc....The more advise the better. I need to learn from your successes and failures.

Lastly, which online vendors have provided good, dependable service with fair (not necessarily cheapest) prices

Thanks!
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04-04-2010 06:42 PM  10 years ago
eggmcmuffinplz

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Remember, there are two "500" sizes.

A true 500 size that swings 500-560mm blades are:
Logo 500, Outrage 550, Swift 16, Hurricane 550, and a few others I know im missing.

The "500" sizes that swing 425mm blades are:
Trex 500, Protos, Logo 400, Atom 500, and the Vibe 500.

The rex's are always going to win over parts availability, but the parts quality isnt as good as some other machines(ie head and tail parts get sloppy after a short time).

The logos offer very high quality parts, but the only place to get parts is Readyheli.

And the outrage head seems to be the most tunable if you are going to to for a true 500.

I hope this helps some.
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04-04-2010 07:30 PM  10 years ago
RcRules

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I went with atrex 500 for my first bird love the thing much more stable than a 450.But recently i just biult a trex 600 n becouse i just couldn`t get over my nitro adiction and that thing is stable as it gets it would have been even eisier on my 600.But i also got lucky with some of the freinds iv made at my lhs and certain airfields in my area they where as much help as my simulator in my opinion.But i have to agree go large or don`t go at all besides i don`t nd a small copter for a back yard flyer my back yard is large enough even for my 600 its just the neighbors would not like the noise so i fly my 500 back there and love it .Rich
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04-04-2010 07:52 PM  10 years ago
BobTheBuilder32

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[size=large]I love my little 450 but I will say it gets small fast. I'm almost done building my new 500esp and like the size of it for now. I love the tuneability of the O550 but I can't bring myself to spend that kind of cash on a battery, even the HK batteries for a 550 size heli cost to much in my mind. I think a 3300mah zippy is the largest pack I will ever buy. When I need something bigger I will go get a Velo50. So my vote is for a 500esp
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04-16-2010 04:50 AM  10 years ago
dkshema

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Trex 500 heli. DX7 radio. Turnigy 6S 2650 30C LiPos. 13 tooth pinion.

'Nuff said.
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04-16-2010 03:29 PM  10 years ago
Heli0228

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Starting out
AS I stated in the other post you had, when you start out I think nitro is a better way to go, because you will be starting and stopping starting and stopping, as stated with nitro you have full power until you run out of gas, and all you need to charge is a receiver battery. The above is if you start out with a experienced pilot on a buddy cord, that way if you get in trouble the other pilot can get you down. I think a good used Trex 600N or a Raptor 30or 50 would be a great start. I think the Trex 500 is a great heli but I just like nitro when I am teaching a new person to fly. I have a friend that got a Hobby King clone of a Trex 500 and it seemed to be a and OK heli, it had a metal head and good servo's but time will tell how it holds up. Can you learn to fly with a Trex 500, yes you can, but still find some one to help you there is a lot more to learn than you think when it comes to flying heli's or planes. But the FIRST thing you need is a goog SIMULATOR and when you can fly all around on the sim then get the heli, this will save you lots of money.
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04-18-2010 01:07 AM  10 years ago
TJinGuy

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I am looking for:
1. quality build and quality parts
2. access to parts/availability (remember I plan to crash)
3. flight worthiness
4. beginner friendly (by de-tuning) with ability to grow.
The Rex500 is a fine bird. The heli is very good quality and flies very well. Parts are super easy to find and it is very tough in a crash. The Align head is not the best out there but its benefits outweighs its drawbacks in my opinion. Now is it beginner friendly? Yes and no. In truth a properly setup 500 is almost the same cost as a 550 or 600 sized birds. Parts are roughly the same cost except for blades, so crashes will be cheaper but not a lot cheaper. Is the Rex500 tunable? Only in the ways all helis are tunable. It does not have multiple geometry options like some helis. So you make it more tame by slowing down the head and adding weight to the flybar. You speed it up doing the opposite.

I personally own a Protos but that is definitely not a beginner heli. It is however greatly tunable and parts are very cheap. I also own a Compass Knight, so I have some experience with the Compass head design. It is not a simple as a TRex but it is a much better performer. Unfortunately parts are not easy to get. My friend has a Logo 500 (550mm blade heli), so I am familiar with them. They are very nice but also very expensive. Parts are also less available than most helis.

I guess my suggestion would be to get whatever you feel comfortable with and then populate it with very good components. Yes it will cost more than taking the cheap route but they will serve you much better and let you advance at a quicker rate.
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