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04-01-2010 12:33 AM  10 years ago
Duckster

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There is a reason why thou am not get paid from bert k,
1. It was just like buying magazine
2. Video is more better then picture.
3. we share to pay for the video.
4. As a guide line for tuning engine.
5. Its really worth for me since am new i dont want to toast the engine just becoz of stupid tuning and better to know then nothing.
6. up to individual... I think i ve spending thousand of dollar, and we dont mind spending just few bucks for that video.
7. Yet about the bubbless clunk is bit better then the stock clunk.
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04-01-2010 03:31 AM  10 years ago
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5. Its really worth for me since am new i dont want to toast the engine just becoz of stupid tuning and better to know then nothing.
you mean you would rather spend $2 on a video to learn to tune your engine better than risk burning up your $300 engine?
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04-01-2010 05:29 AM  10 years ago
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Bert is a excellent pilot.

But, I know a lot of guys with way more experience than him. They don't fly better or even come close to his flying abilities, but they know helis and engines, hands down.

Being a good pilot and being able to wrench are two different things.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure Bert knows a lot, but..... He sure went commercial fast, and I've lost some respect for him. Face it he is sponsored, and he will not say anything bad about a sponsor, period. That is just the way it works.

I have had many run-ins with sponsors on this forum. They are no more than cheerleaders.

Being sponsored and asking people to pay is nothing more than a used car salesman. I'm in this hobby for fun.

Beware of advice from a sponsored pilot, and don't pay for it. Advertising is usually free. That is all I'm saying.
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04-01-2010 05:47 AM  10 years ago
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Sorry but if you have a $300+ engine you should know how to tune before or your not ready. Any ways there is plenty of Free vids showing you how. His videos are not the Holy Grail.
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04-01-2010 05:54 AM  10 years ago
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I have had many run-ins with sponsors on this forum. They are no more than cheerleaders.

Being sponsored and asking people to pay is nothing more than a used car salesman. I'm in this hobby for fun.
love the quote above right on the money.
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04-01-2010 06:15 AM  10 years ago
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Can we stay on topic?
This thread has turned into a personal attack on Bert that he does not deserve. As a matter of fact, he hasn't even posted in the thread. Now let me tell you something, just because you're sponsored doesn't make it all free. And Bert is one of the most stand up and honest guys out there. He won't promote anything that he doesn't believe in ( do some quick research and deductive reasoning). As for the SmackTalk videos, no one is making anyone purchase anything. Those who wish to buy do so of their own freewill. I for one believe that the mission was to produce clear and concise videos containing knowledge and opinions about flying and maintaining R/C Helicopters. And that is exactly what both Bert and Bobby are giving the community. There are cost associated with everything and the little that they charge is probably not even covering their overhead. They produce these videos because they want to further and enhance the hobby for the masses. I will say again that they don't claim to know everything, but they do show you what works for them and what they have seen to work and not work for others. I'm done. Keep up the good work Bert and Bobby.
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04-01-2010 07:14 AM  10 years ago
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hahah free advert are u sure ... i think what they try to make here is a documentary... And i sometime copy the smack talk to a newbie let the watch and learn... Anyway nothing is free in this modern world...Trex 600,700 AND 450, GY611, GY401, OS5H, OS91HZ, MGP, HS65HB, Scorpion 2221-8,
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04-01-2010 05:04 PM  10 years ago
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He should have mad it donation based that would of worked better.

Any was i was talk to few ppl, they seem to agree that a fuel magnet can crak and can clog up your filter/carb. I will try the bubbleless clunk still is a little scary. (i'm use to see the header tank catch bubbles but in this case i will not be using one)
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04-01-2010 05:27 PM  10 years ago
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https://rc.runryder.com/t515449p1/Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep
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04-01-2010 05:45 PM  10 years ago
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Thank you i'm sold.
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04-01-2010 05:59 PM  10 years ago
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IMO

The bubbless clunk works as advertised. It is not just a regular clunk. One caveat, it is fat(wide)and will not fit in some standard tanks without widening the opening.

Having said that, I widened the opening and I had to leave the O-ring off of the clunk in order to get the bubbless clunk in the fuel tank on a Vibe 50. There are no air leaks to date, (knock on wood).
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04-01-2010 07:04 PM  10 years ago
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pro's run both, its a matter of personal prefference.

they both have there pro's and cons

now its beating a dead horse woth personal opinions only
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04-02-2010 12:43 AM  10 years ago
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You have to be KIDDING ME !!!!!!!!!!!about paying for a episodes of Smacktalk
You don't have to buy everyone but if they do a episode that could help WHY NOT

I think its a GREAT new way of learning things and VERY HELPFUL to all people new and old into the hobby !!!!!!!
Bert and Bobby will be making a couple of DOLLARS maybe down the road on them but all in all I think that they are very helpful
It takes many hours of there time just taping it and then going back to there office and editing all that they filmed,I bet it takes anywhere from 2 to 4 days just to do one episode
Both Bert and Bobby know information that could help everybody in there flying and setups
That's my feelings and hope you can maybe see my way ??????? a little
Remember you were a NEWBE ONCE in the hobby and I think that maybe in the beginning you might just be very happy to get a episode to help you along the way TOO!!!!!!!!
By the way who do you think TESTS all the engines out for OS
Bert and Bobby ?????!!!!!!!
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04-02-2010 02:12 AM  10 years ago
Mike Fortin

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I've been watching this thread for a little bit and am kinda surprised at some of the comments by knightofcarnage and Zaneman007 had to say.

The obvious thing here is that if you have an issue with what SmackTalkRC.com is providing to the community then you have the option not to watch. However, coming into the forum and outright bashing a guy for trying to make a positive impact on the hobby is insulting.

SmacktalkRC nor it's hosts get any kickbacks, money, products or anything else of monetary value from any of their sponsors. This is a FACT. The same can't be said for others that do "help" of "build" videos as many times if not all the time they are given the product for FREE provided that they do a build or setup video showcasing the product. Having said that, they ARE getting FREE products that actually have monetary value. Again, Bert and Bobby get nothing.

When it comes to other videos, podcasts or heli related shows there is simply nobody out there that has the background or FIRST HAND knowledge that both Bobby Watts and Bert Kammerer posses. It's one thing to know about motors or how to setup a gyro but when it comes to ACTUALLY using them that knowledge falls short very quickly.

Since neither one of you according to your posts "would never pay" then you clearly don't know that the show is kept in very general terms and many products from several different manufacturers often get spoken about by the hosts. Many of those companies are not associated with Bert or Bobby.

As for PAYING for the videos, it often takes 20-30 hours in which to produce an entire 1 hour episode. This includes planning & writing as well as filming and editing. This does not however include, travel time and expenses, equipment such as HD cameras, high end wireless mics, green screens and editing software.

For the thousands that have already been spent and for the thousands more that will be spent in order to produce higher quality content $2.99 is a very little amount to pay for such informative videos.

Now, is it wrong that Curtis Youngblood released How To Videos many years ago or Ray's Helicopter videos or perhaps even Alan Szabo Jr's DVD. Is it wrong that they get paid...what SmackTalkRC.com is doing is nothing new, they have just found a new way to bring the information to the masses in an age of higher technology.

So in closing, having not seen the videos neither of you should make an assumption as to how the videos are presented or the content within. If people feel as though they may be able to benefit from the content provided in each episode while having a laugh in between then that is their choice to purchase or not.

Now, as for the debate about Bubbleless Clunks and Fuel Magnets...they are entirely different and in no way do the same thing.

A Fuel Magnet is a sponge, it soaks in and RETAINS fuel, a bubbleless clunk is exactly that...a clunk and it doesn't retain fuel, it's the exact same thing as using a stock clunk.

Hope that helps.
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04-02-2010 02:22 AM  10 years ago
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Bert and Bobby are great guys. I know them both and hung with them a few times.

It's that RPM1.5 you gotta watch out for
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04-02-2010 04:41 AM  10 years ago
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I am not bashing anyone.

Advertisers pay to get there message across, I find it interesting that there are those who would pay them instead. I never said anything about content.

But we all see things in a different light. There are a lot of biased opinions on here(RR).

So keep your panties on,Mike. And feel free to say whatever you want. But reread my posts, I think that you may have missread a line or maybe more!

Just remember the old saying, don't put your chickens in ONE basket.

And everything on here is an opinion, period.

That is all that I'm saying on that.

Back on topic;

the bubbless clunk works, unless your sponsored by their competitor, then it's just a regular clunk? But that is just my opinion.

Good day
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04-02-2010 05:03 AM  10 years ago
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I saw SmackTalkRC video and I think Bert said that OS wouldn't like what he said about their clunk.

AFAIK Bert is OS sponsored. Bold statement ? I think he is being honest to his watchers.

On topic. I tried both. The OS clunk is great because it sucks fuel from any angle since it has a lot of holes but it also sucks air.

The fuel magnet as Mike stated retains fuels so it sucks more fuel than air on that second were the clunk isn't touching fuel. And I noted that difference when you are moving the heli around.

I use only YS engines so my foams are in good shape.

Have anybody tried this clunk ?

http://www.helidirect.com/72403050-...rge-p-17717.hdx
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04-02-2010 05:06 AM  10 years ago
Mike Fortin

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Perhaps you may want to re-read your own posts. By calling sponsored pilots "cheerleaders" or saying that you lost respect for a guy because he's making informative videos for the R/C Helicopter community sure seems like bashing to me.

And then you try and take another stick with this:
the bubbless clunk works, unless your sponsored by their competitor, then it's just a regular clunk?
Most sponsored pilots I know fly products that they believe in and because it works well for them.

Ohh, and you might find this interesting... Bert and Bobby are sponsored by OS yet he runs a Fuel Magnet
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04-02-2010 05:06 AM  10 years ago
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Hi Mr. Zaneman,

I am a proud member of the OS Engine flight team, and would never consider running anything else. That being said, in my limited experience in flying, the OS bubbless clunk is very similar to a regular clunk in that it just sucks up fuel. If I had to choose either the stock clunk or the OS bubbless clunk, Id choose the stock one. The OMI Fuel magnet (Which I gladly pay for out of my own pocket is a clunk wrapped in a foam sponge, which means that as long as the sponge is covered in fuel, your carburetor will get the fuel it needs. The advantage of this is that you can literally get every drop out of the system. This means a few more autos at the end of the tank!! In most helicopter tanks, the regular clunk or bubbless clunk will work just fine without any issues.

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04-02-2010 06:02 AM  10 years ago
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that being said, in my limited experience in flying, the OS bubbless clunk is very similar to a regular clunk in that it just sucks up fuel.
Bobby, even though you have limited experience. I will gladly take your advice for free at funflys and pay for it on smacktalkrc. You and Bert both add knowledge and enjoyment to the RC Helicopter hobby. I wont let haters change my mind. Keep up the great work. OS has probably seen a decrease in warranty claims on lean run engines since your release on how to tune your engine.
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