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04-01-2010 04:27 PM  10 years ago
kazager

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Just to play a little "devils advocate". SD did spend his hard earned money on a product that he can't fly because of parts supply. I can understand being upset and emotional about that. The day you sell the first kit, parts should be on the shelf. That being said, it's only temporary and when you buy the first of anything you can be sure there will be issues of some kind. I'm only saying that he has the right to vent frustration, if only because he spent his money on the product.Flying $uck$...All of the money out of my bank account!
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04-01-2010 04:32 PM  10 years ago
Carey

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specialtydevice
It sounds like you should probably sell your MA stuff. If it's not working for you then that should be all the reason you need.

Setting up a stratus requires a lot more than most helis. It's a Ferrari so you have to expect to not work on it like it's a Pinto.

I agree, it can be a PITA to get one set up properly, but once done right you just pick it up, stick in the car, preflight and fly. I wish it was easier, hopefully the new 90 will be a bit more practical.

Main Gear? I had a bad radio dump my stratus (many times) in the dirt, the last time... it augured in until the clutch finally wore out. Not only did I reuse the clutch bell, I am still flying the main gear as there's not a scratch on it. Don't bothering to ask about my swash and head block, oh and bottom plate, frames, etc etc. They are all original.

Just agreeing with the folks that say if you break the core parts on this heli, you aren't looking for parts, you are looking for a new kit cause you plowed that thing into pavement.
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04-01-2010 06:04 PM  10 years ago
fr8brkr

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Specialtydevice -

I sent you a "private" PM regarding your situation with parts availability
because I agreed that the lack of parts support at the dealership level is an aggravation especially when a machine gets "planted as mine did. HOWEVER -- My personal experience in dealing with both my dealer and MA direct has been one of total cooperation and expediency with getting my FURY 55 back in the air - I was made aware that MA had a short lapse in a very small # of parts and are doing everything possible to resolve parts supply.

IF I HAD ANY REASON TO POST MY THOUGHTS IN THE PUBLIC FORUM I WOULD HAVE DONE SO - FOR YOU TO QUOTE MY PRIVATE pm TO YOU WAS IN MY ESTIMATION NOT ONLY UNETHICAL BUT TOTALLY DISRESPECTFUL TO ME, NOT TO MENTION MINIATURE AIR WHICH HAVE DONE NOTHING BUT PROVIDE ME WITH EXCELLENT SERVICE AND SUPPORT.

My advice next time someone sends you a "private" PM is to treat it as such -- PRIVATE !!!

My sincere apologies to all at MA
Problems ? -- Mine are flown in fresh daily
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04-01-2010 07:38 PM  10 years ago
Carey

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My advice next time someone sends you a "private" PM is to treat it as such -- PRIVATE !!!

Oh hey, look at what my PM's are called:

Private Messaging For •Carey
SpecialtyDevice wrote: Heres a PM i just received!

Oh Snap!

http://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Frien...e/dp/0671723650
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04-01-2010 10:29 PM  10 years ago
jadams

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we are still waiting for the pix of his crashed 55.......come on...sell ur 55 and enjoy the Align quality.
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04-02-2010 12:45 AM  10 years ago
shawgl

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You guys are idiots
Sounds like an electrical engineer over tightening his tailboom causing HIS CRASH and now he's pissed because HIS BUILDING ISSUE is MA's fault.... EXACTLY WHAT PART CAN YOU NOT GET? Let's hear it, maybe someone will pony up and help you out. Acting the a$$ rarely gets you help.
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04-02-2010 12:51 AM  10 years ago
shawgl

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Kazager,

SD caused his own crash! Asked for assistance identifying the issue, he was given the help requested and was going to post the pics to help all others avoid the same fate. Pics were never shared. All while he was bad mouthing MA for poor design, If he (ENGINEER) can't figure out that when you clamp something in place with friction you need to pay attention and not over tighten it like he did, I will avoid sending my kids to the college he attended as it should be common sense. REDICULOUS!!!!! Now he can't get parts??? What parts does he need? I'll sell him the ones out of my kit!!! Just to shut him up!
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04-02-2010 12:56 AM  10 years ago
kazager

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I wasn't defending anything he did or said. I only meant I can understand being frustrated. Please don't attack me when all I'm trying to do is be understanding. It's easy to be misunderstood when we type things to people we don't know, I was just giving the benefit of the doubt. Nextly, I only a couple posts ago realized "who" this was, and if you look at the "accident" thread, I started by giving the benefit of the doubt, and later questioned whether there was any truth, since the pictures were "being posted in a couple hours" to never posted at all.Flying $uck$...All of the money out of my bank account!
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04-02-2010 01:07 AM  10 years ago
shawgl

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Kaz,

I didn't want you to think I was attacking you at all. This dude has issues with his building and has been slamming MA since he balled it up. I gave him the benefit of the doubt on the mishap thread also, it's no big deal. I like to help guys out, however I think it's important for someone to take ownership of their own screw up and move on, not continue bashing others. Like I said, I would gladly sell him some parts out of my kit that is sitting here at the house. I just haven't had time to build it yet. No worries, hope you don't think the slamming was directed at you. It wasn't.

Greg
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04-02-2010 02:11 AM  10 years ago
specialtydevice

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clutch, clutch bell, canopy, grip levers
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04-02-2010 02:18 AM  10 years ago
specialtydevice

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and whats posting pictures going to prove? to satisfy your curiosity? Its not going to get my 55 fixed
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04-02-2010 02:25 AM  10 years ago
specialtydevice

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if the manufacturer supplies a boom clamp that can be overtightened and cause damage it is in fact a DESIGN FLAW. it is not possible to damage the boom tightening the boom clamp on the 700 because it is properly sized. I bet you guys, after reading how my boom was damaged by the tightening of the boom clamp, went back and loosened yours up LOL. The manufacturer DID NOT state in the build instructions not to over tighten the boom clamp as it is possible to cause damage. I did see however a warning not to over tighten the fan nut down as i will cause run out.
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04-02-2010 02:33 AM  10 years ago
tadawson

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Hardly! Pretty much any fastener on any piece of machinery can be overtightened to the point of failure or damage . . . By your definition, every single piece of machinery on the planet is defective! Not!!!!

Proper torque in building anything is critical, and I see an awful lot of folks who go "Gorlilla Fist" on the small fasteners on our models. If snug is good, tighter is *NOT* better!

- Tim
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04-02-2010 02:34 AM  10 years ago
kazager

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Greg,
No worries, it's all good. Sorry for getting so defensive. I'm hoping to see lot's of constructive feedback on the Fury55.
Flying $uck$...All of the money out of my bank account!
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04-02-2010 02:47 AM  10 years ago
kazager

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and whats posting pictures going to prove? to satisfy your curiosity? Its not going to get my 55 fixed
Two things:

#1 - You said for days you would post them and you didn't, calling your sincerity into question.

#2 - The pictures are to share your experience so others can learn from it
Flying $uck$...All of the money out of my bank account!
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04-02-2010 02:55 AM  10 years ago
shawgl

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Kaz,

No worries man, life is good.

I started building mine last night with my four year old and two year old at my side. I explainged the reason for lock tite and for them to never overtighten their boom clamps. It was pretty funny. I was pleasantly surprised to see that the boom clamps have a relatively small gap for the clamping. The way SD had creased his boom would be pretty obvious during the build. I think one would have to be pretty much brain dead to not notice creasing the boom while clamping it. Oh well, better him than me.

What the heck did you crash into to destroy the clutch, clutch bell? Sounds like it flailed on the ground for quite awhile? That sucks.

SD's situation reminds me of when I wadded up my CS by forgetting to go back into idle up after making some adjustments and trying to do a max power inverted climb out. It was my own dumb a$$ fault! Just as this is his. Tally up the bill plus shipping SD and I'll sell you my parts. How's that sound to you?
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04-02-2010 03:09 AM  10 years ago
Dr.Ben

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Hardly! Pretty much any fastener on any piece of machinery can be overtightened to the point of failure or damage . . . By your definition, every single piece of machinery on the planet is defective! Not!!!!
Indeed, the assumption that a manufacturer is in some way obligated to warn the builder about the use of basic building skills is utterly absurd. I can easily ruin half the parts on my Eagle 3 with crappy building technique, but I'll not blame the kit manufacturer for not telling me that you can't apply a gorilla grip to all hardware and parts, either. One thing that every kit manufacturer on Earth has discovered is that no matter how hard they try to figure out during product design and writing of instructions every possible way the builder could screw up a fine piece of equipment, an end user somewhere will surely discover a novel way to do so. If you can't appreciate and execute good building skills deserved by finer quality model helicopters, then the products of the almighty vacuum cleaner company would indeed better suit your needs.

Ben Minor
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04-02-2010 03:58 AM  10 years ago
godspeed128

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Fury 55
I wish I had a Fury 55 LOL
There is nothing in this world constant, but inconsistency.
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04-02-2010 04:02 AM  10 years ago
BisonFlyer

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Ben that was hilarious... thanks for the input, lol.Art Hughes
SAB Heli Division~Byron Fuels~Mikado V-Team~Scorpion~Pulse~Xpert Servo~Kontronik Drives
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04-02-2010 04:25 AM  10 years ago
shawgl

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WHAT!!!

So the old addage
Crossthread is better than no thread
Is BS????

And to think all this time we have been doing it on full size? WTF? He is however an "Electrical Engineer". In my experience, avionics engineers have absolutley no sense. NONE! However they'll get you to the moon and back no problem.
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