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03-30-2010 12:43 PM  10 years ago
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hootowl

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RC HELI reviews and rates the Fury 55
Just got the mag the other day. Looks like it got top ratings in everything except price. I don't see the price as being a negative. It's just slightly more than the competition and if you shop you can do better.
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03-30-2010 01:37 PM  10 years ago
davehour

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Yes, the kit price sounds a little high, but crashing and part cost are very competitive.

I'm not rich nor didn't have such kind of a machine before, but I feel happy I bought it and it didn't hurt me spending the amount of money I did to get it.

There are some parts that are costly but they're not the ones that are replaced in common crashes.

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03-30-2010 03:38 PM  10 years ago
RCHeliJim

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I was quite pleased when I saw the parts prices for this machine. If I make room in the fleet anytime soon, there may be a Fury 55 added to it

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03-30-2010 05:40 PM  10 years ago
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Parts prices are making me think twice. I just went through the parts @ Heliproz, and everything is more expensive than my Velocity, unless it's made out of plastic.
$80 per frame side
$28 for a main gear
$25 or $11? for a tailboom (if $11 is right, that's better but still almost double)
$58 for a headblock
I can appreciate that it's well made and made in the USA. I'll even pay more for "Made In The USA". I've never even bought a foreign car. Just giving the other side to the idea that the parts are inexpensive.
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03-30-2010 06:44 PM  10 years ago
hootowl

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Sorry, I will guarantee you you get what you pay for. Just examine all of the parts side by side.Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep
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03-30-2010 06:54 PM  10 years ago
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I can appreciate that it's well made and made in the USA. I'll even pay more for "Made In The USA". I've never even bought a foreign car. Just giving the other side to the idea that the parts are inexpensive.
Honestly, I dont think you do appreciate the difference. Having owned a couple of MA machines and having just added a Velocity to my fleet, there is a world of difference between the parts. The quality difference of the aluminum itself is obvious. I always feel like I'm on the verge of stripping out most of the Velocity parts or they wont take the same (reasonable and correct (via a torque driver)) amount of torque MA or Hirobo aluminum will.
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03-30-2010 07:02 PM  10 years ago
kazager

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I did not question whether you were getting what you were paying for. Only looking at it from a crash cost perspective, and a direct comment in regards to:
I was quite pleased when I saw the parts prices for this machine.
While the quality and origin of the parts might be pleasing, the cost (and on that factor alone) was not (to me).
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03-30-2010 07:44 PM  10 years ago
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Just keep in mind most of the expensive parts are highly unlikely to go in a crash. That main gear will last forever unless u bomb it directly into pavement on the side. Main frames are unlikely to go in most crashes. Head block is also very unlikely to go. The washout pins bend, but the head block is almost always fine. New pins can be purchased for a few bucks, and your good to go. As anyone with any previous MA machines knows, the swashplates are good for the life of the kit. German Heim Ball and bearing that last forever. I'm still on my original swashplate on the stratus and this one is built to the same quality level.

Its obviously all relative to ur budget, but the actual crash cost items are very affordable IMO. If you are breaking main gears, head blocks and swash plates in crashes, chances are its a full re-kit, lol.
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04-01-2010 05:53 AM  10 years ago
specialtydevice

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You guys are idiots
Quality means nothing if you cant get the parts. Remember all the hoopla with the Aurora? How many people are flying the Aurora now? No parts. Miniature aircraft is not as bad as Avant but the always had issues with supplying parts. I have a crashed Fury 55 and cant fix it because i cant get all the parts i need. What good is the freaking heli, nomatter how great the quality, if you cant repair it? I find myself flying "Old Reliable" the Trex 700 and 600 because i can always get any part i need. And have no fear of crashing because the parts are either at the local hobby shop or two days away online. In order to fly the Fury 55 again im forced to buy a whole other kit. Thats rediculous
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04-01-2010 06:34 AM  10 years ago
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You guys are idiots

Quality means nothing if you cant get the parts. Remember all the hoopla with the Aurora? How many people are flying the Aurora now? No parts. Miniature aircraft is not as bad as Avant but the always had issues with supplying parts. I have a crashed Fury 55 and cant fix it because i cant get all the parts i need. What good is the freaking heli, nomatter how great the quality, if you cant repair it? I find myself flying "Old Reliable" the Trex 700 and 600 because i can always get any part i need. And have no fear of crashing because the parts are either at the local hobby shop or two days away online. In order to fly the Fury 55 again im forced to buy a whole other kit. Thats rediculous
Is that why you have a Stratus ?
Is that why MA has been providing high quality parts & support for all their helis for decades ?
Is that why MA parts fit together well and there is no slop ?

This being a new heli and MA moving production location, and economy not being exactly in a good state to put it mildly, it will take a little time to get the pipelines filled.

If you recall (which I doubt you do), when the Trex 600N came out a few years ago, their situation was the same, no one could even get kits, never mind spare parts ! I had one of the first batch of kits (some of the tail parts which would not even fit properly, and slop everywhere in the head)

however, if you think a Trex 700 or 600 will hold a candle to the MA products in terms of flight and parts quality, then frankly sir,

you're the idiot ... LOL
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04-01-2010 02:12 PM  10 years ago
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I have a Stratus THAT I NEVER FLY because it always has problems ever since it was built. The last problem was the tail was lost in the air due to the delrin to metal gears in the open tail stripped in flight. Cause? You have to constantly remesh the tail gears in the open box tail or this will happen. Whats the problem now? It needs a new fan and collet because it shakes too much now for the gyro to hold. Cost on a fan? Freaking $70!. Never any problems with the 700 and if i decide to change out a part? UNDER $100 at the local hobby shop....ALWAYS! Wait a minute...i want to change the look of my helicopter. But wait! Nobody carries canopies for the Stratus! Canomod in China with only 3 choices. But look, hundreds of designs for the 700 and everyone has them including the local hobby shop. One last point ill leave you with. Bobby Watts in MAs top pilot right? Now MA got bought out by Flyco and he has his choice of which heli to fly that Flyco carries. Golly Gee! In every video i see now including the SMACKTALKRC videos hes flies a 700!
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04-01-2010 02:12 PM  10 years ago
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04-01-2010 02:17 PM  10 years ago
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Is that why you have a Stratus ?
Is that why MA has been providing high quality parts & support for all their helis for decades ?
Is that why MA parts fit together well and there is no slop ?
MA has been producing? They rely on third party vendors, thats their excuse for the long delay on the release of the Fury 55. "Our vendors didnt come through"
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04-01-2010 02:20 PM  10 years ago
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Heres a PM i just received
Re Topic: RC HELI reviews and rates the Fury 55

Hi specialtydevice

I put my Fury 55 in the ground about 2 weeks ago - and found that parts availability is lacking - MA needs to support those of us that have already purchased a kit instead of using every available part for making kits ! I agree with you - a machine you cant fix is WORTHLESS !
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04-01-2010 02:22 PM  10 years ago
hootowl

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Lot of MA gassers around here. Older and new models. They love them birds and fly the heck out of em. rbort has many and is the king of MA gassers. Ask him about MA quality.

It is typical that parts are hard to get on initial release by all manufacturers. I certainly do not expect MA to be like Aurora. MA has a good history.

I see loads of Bobby Watts videos of him flying the Fury 55.

Lot of sour grapes here from one customer.

Have a look...
https://rc.runryder.com/t579232p1/
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04-01-2010 02:32 PM  10 years ago
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I hope that you recieved permission to post someones PRIVATE MESSAGE. As for the problems with your Stratus, you may need some help with setup on your tail. You reset the mesh after the first few flights and it is fine after that. I have hundreds of flights on the same tail on both my Stratus and Ion X2. Calling people idiots may not be your best move. I seem to remember the last time that you called everyone stupid it had to do with main shaft diameter. And you were wrong. I am in no way trying to diminish that fact that you need a part you can't get. Just out of curiosity, what are the parts that you are looking for?Team Kontronik Team minicopter/PeakAircraft
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04-01-2010 02:36 PM  10 years ago
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Oh, and as far as the Avant slam. Parts have almost always been available in the U.S.Team Kontronik Team minicopter/PeakAircraft
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04-01-2010 02:46 PM  10 years ago
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Here we go again

If you like to fly MA then fly it. If you like another brand, fly it! Who cares? All this back-and-forth doesn't accompish anything except feather-ruffling. If there was only one brand heli, it would make things kinda boring from a kit standpoint...

And yes, I agree that publicly posting private messages (without permission, of course) is uncouth.
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04-01-2010 04:07 PM  10 years ago
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Specialtydevice... not to beat ya up or anything, but if ur having the issues you mentioned with gears stripping and vibrations in your Stratus, you should look at your building skills, and not blame the machine. If set properly, the tail gears need to be re-meshed ONCE after the first install. After they wear in together, a small amount of backlash develops (normally after 6 or 7 flights). Then just reset the mesh to remove any backlash and you are good to go. It doesn't need to be touched again unless u smack the tail in the ground, or didn't build it properly. I own a Stratus and beat the piss out of it on a regular basis (as do a lot of guys I know and fly with) and don't have the issues you do. 95% of the time, the problems I see are caused solely by bad building skills and improper setup. Your vibration issue you are complaining about means you either didn't balance the fan/clutch assembly, didn't dial indicate it properly when installing, or didn't properly line the motor up in the airframe. If you don't do that, ur machine will vibrate like crazy and then open u up to all sorts of other problems. Again though... that all comes down to building skills and experience in the hobby.

Sounds like the same thing might have been the cause with your Fury crash as well (which sucks i know... i hate seeing a new machine hit the dirt). No one else has had the issues you have so that tends to point towards a problem with your build. I have already ordered a bunch of spare parts for my Fury 55 so acting like it has zero parts support is ridiculous. Its a brand new kit that they are still filling back-orders for. Name one machine that has full spare parts available everywhere at the release of the machine. I think the only item they don't have right now that you would need is a boom... and that was the item that caused the delays in the shipping of the kits. It sucks that you broke the one thing that is in short supply right now, but the thing just came out. Give it a few weeks, and then don't fly your machine if u cant get spares.
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04-01-2010 04:11 PM  10 years ago
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and posts like this....
One last point ill leave you with. Bobby Watts in MAs top pilot right? Now MA got bought out by Flyco and he has his choice of which heli to fly that Flyco carries. Golly Gee! In every video i see now including the SMACKTALKRC videos hes flies a 700!
show just how mis-informed you are.... but i'll leave it at that.
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