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03-30-2010 10:50 AM  10 years ago
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OICU812

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A note to Futaba, suggestions and ideas on upcoming TX's !!!
Well although some may feel this post is not necessary, I will disagree. Simply as I did a post like this in the Spektrum forum and IMO it was not only productive but we saw changes! So as a past and recent owner of the latest Futaba radios 10C and 8FG I would like to submit a few ideas. If any of you would like to contribute I think it would be nice for Futaba people who have a voice, be it reps, pilots or people who work for Futaba see what "we the customers/pilots" would like to see!!!

My notes and not many are:

1.) If you are buying a helicopter specific 8FG, 10C etc then in the heli menus take out dual aileron/elevator expos this is simply not needed and obviously is taken from the plane menus, it's about time to get some of these heli/airplane menus seperated and cleaned up IMO.

2.) TIMER, is stupid "quite"! It should be at LEAST 3 times as loud, even with near silent electric helis I find it VERY easy to fly past your timer as it is FAR to quiet! A great add in would be a "vibrating" alert that would work with the timer beeper.

3.) SWITCH SPACING: I am a pincher and to me the top switches are FAR to close. Spacing out the top, but having the casing of radio even another 5mm wider and creating space up there would be HUGE and a BIG improvement for those who are not thumbers or like some room, I've cruised MANY forums and this is something that is brought up ALLOT by many users of Futaba radios.

4.) Again on helicopter specific radios, the top right forefront "throttle hold" switch should be a two position switch, it makes far more sense IMO.

5.) Simplified Telemtry would be nice since it is coming into style on other radios.

6.) Even though the 8FG sticks feel great, I'd be willing to pay abit more for Futabas BEST gimbals, bearings and pots with ZERO issue, the meat of the radio IMO should be the best we can get and offer it to those who like it.

Anyhow I know many of you have many more years with Futaba stuff, it's ok to disagree but these are my opinions so far and if anyone else has more they can add that would be great, it's about getting more value and more satisfaction for our dollars.
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03-30-2010 11:36 AM  10 years ago
HeliPhil

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make the timer on throttle position - not stick position.......
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03-30-2010 12:37 PM  10 years ago
skint eastwood

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have the ability to swap the throttle hold alarm, so that it warns me that I DONT have throttle hold on when I switch on
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03-30-2010 12:47 PM  10 years ago
skint eastwood

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The 10c broadcasts in 2 modes one for 7 channels and one for 8 or more, a decent audible warning to tell you to cycle the power after a model change, would save some frustration
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03-30-2010 01:01 PM  10 years ago
skint eastwood

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on the 10c maybe others, the hovering pitch is on by default, linked to one of the VR dials. If you set up lets say a throttle governor on that dial, without realising your pitch will change at hover point. All mixes should be off by default.
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03-30-2010 04:00 PM  10 years ago
Four Stroker

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Good luck with that. The Japanese Team Futaba guys are the first critics. The other world Team Futaba pilots are a distant second and finally a sport flyer has no say whatsoever in the features of radios. The same goes for finding bugs in the software.
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03-30-2010 06:18 PM  10 years ago
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Here is one that I find annoying the most... How about a bigger battery compartment for the 8FG. Why in the world would you take a transmitter with almost the same dimensions as the 7C and make the battery compartment smaller. WTF! I have both, and love the room I have to play with on my 7C.
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03-30-2010 06:37 PM  10 years ago
OICU812

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Four Stroker I hear ya but I still think it's worth us voicing our opinions don't you??...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...
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03-30-2010 06:39 PM  10 years ago
Rogman88

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It's my understanding that the 8FG is firmware upgradeable. Perhaps we can get an upgrade addressing some of these issues?
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03-30-2010 07:02 PM  10 years ago
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These should apply to ALL brands of radios...

1. radios AND receivers should be lipo (2S - 7.4v) capable.

2. all switches/pots should be assignable.

3. model memory should be SD card or USB jump drive capable (not proprietary).

4. firmware/software should be update-able via internet USB connection.

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03-30-2010 07:09 PM  10 years ago
OICU812

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Rogman yes some would be surely just updates, other points no....Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...
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03-31-2010 05:46 AM  10 years ago
G Steyn

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I agree 100% with the list of points, especially the spacing between the top switches. Although one does get used to it.
Coming from a PCM9XII, I did find the 12FG a bit cramped at first.

Secondly, JR has a feature called model match. Quite a nice safety feature.
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03-31-2010 02:24 PM  10 years ago
Skaluf

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Hi guys,
Actually, actually suggestions of this nature do in-fact get forwarded to Futaba by us here at Hobbico. While we are unable to spend a lot of time making posts on all of the various forums, we do read them.

Steve Kaluf
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03-31-2010 02:37 PM  10 years ago
simages

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CSC - These should apply to ALL brands of radios...
2. all switches/pots should be assignable.
3. model memory should be SD card or USB jump drive capable (not proprietary).
4. firmware/software should be update-able via internet USB connection.
+3 You beat me to it on 3 of the 4 points!
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03-31-2010 03:29 PM  10 years ago
gorn

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how about also getting rid of the stupid trainer port plug they have.
Im forever having issues getting decent quality adapters to run my sim with.
What the hell is wrong with a normal stereo plug like on JR?
Hmmmm, nothing....thats what I thought.

Enough of being different JUST for the sake of it.
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03-31-2010 04:03 PM  10 years ago
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- Open source the Model file formats.

There are a few software developers on here that could create a nice point and click interface to setup the models. It would make life so much simpler than having to use the wheel or touch interfaces on the radio itself.

It would also go along way in usability and backup. I have Mac's for most of my desktops / laptops. It would be nice if some of the software would work without having to install windows.

Feel free to release just the header files, this way we don't have to hack/reverse engineer the firmware updates. I'm certain it would foster a really nice eco system for Futaba.

- Support for high voltage applications (2s lipo).

With all the new electronics (governor, gyro, FBL, co-pilot, etc.), these things take a toll on the battery. In order to fly with all this crap and be able to fly for more than a few flights, we are either strapping bricks (large batteries) along with fairly large regulators and voltage step downs for the tail.

It's silly, and I would like a simpler setup. Some have moved to other vendors because the wiring (and weight) is greatly reduced. Futaba is really behind the curve on this.

Those are my two biggest issues with Futaba.

Others

- Flybarless electronics - Futaba is not even in this market.

- More integration - How about adding governor functionality into the receivers

- Channel assignment consistency - I have a 14mz and for a long while I couldn't buddy box another Heli without having to re-wire the receiver, which really negated the channel grouping for eccpm. Another 14mz or 12z / 12fg wasn't a practical solution to the issue, since they weren't released for another year. This is more of a frustration gripe, but valid none the less.
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03-31-2010 05:09 PM  10 years ago
melinau

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@PilotError- couldn't agree more. Its absolutely ridiculous that modern Microprocessor-controlled systems (that's ALL of them, as far as I know) should be completely isolated from external Computers.

The dinky little screens are fine for the field, but how much nicer would it be to do basic setup on a 20" full colour screen? Similarly the screens on nearly all modern RC transmitters are also a disgrace. 'Phone makers like Samsung are knocking-out full colour LCD\OLED screens for a few dollars each, so they can easily be included in RC kit.
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03-31-2010 05:36 PM  10 years ago
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the cell phone manufacturers are able to pump out millions of phones and spread the technology costs across the globe.

I'd be surprised if there are even 1 million RC hobbyists in the world. Smaller market, higher materials costs due to lower quantities.

I suspect that one of the ways we see technological progression filter down to the hobby is after these companies have developed and sold the technology in the industrial/military market first.

Overall, the global RC Heli market is small potatoes compared to the Airplanes and RC cars and certainly minuscule in comparison to the global cell phone market (roughly 4.1 billion users)
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03-31-2010 07:04 PM  10 years ago
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The only real issue I have with my 8fg is the swash type selection. It just lists the type of swash in code (SR3 etc), with no diagram, so I end up having to break out the manual to setup a new heli. Other than that, I'm happy with my 8fg, I replaced my 12z with it, and I don't miss it one bit other than that diagram.Nick Crego

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03-31-2010 08:37 PM  10 years ago
rhazbun

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Us few FAI guys like using our dual rates and expos. Please keep them in.
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