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03-29-2010 12:51 PM  10 years ago
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hootowl

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Pennsylvania Banning Handheld Cell Phones in Cars.
“We’ve seen the surveys and the poll results from a number of the institutions that have conducted them, that people overwhelmingly feel that there should be a ban on [texting] – definitely number one texting, and number two hand-held cell phone use.”

http://www.kyw1060.com/Pa--Inches-C...le-Driv/6677594
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03-29-2010 01:24 PM  10 years ago
Frank Bostwick

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Good, perhaps other states will follow suit. Cell phone use in a car is as bad as driving at .08 BAL, IMO. Texting is like driving w/ .16BAL. Note HAND HELD not a ban on cell phone use in a car.RIP ROMAN
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03-29-2010 02:27 PM  10 years ago
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Let's clarify, these bans should only be for the driver... right.
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03-29-2010 03:03 PM  10 years ago
jsenicka

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why would a headset make it any safer?

Leaving texting out of the picture for a moment.
Dialing a number is a distraction. Talking with someone outside the car is a distraction. Actually holding the phone to your ear is not.
If holding the phone with one hand is the major issue, then we need to ban driving by people with only one good arm, ban eating, scratching, etc.

Typical political showboating
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03-29-2010 03:04 PM  10 years ago
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We allready have these bans in effect here. You are supposed to use a hands free for using a cell phone. Want to know how well the bans work? they dont! want to know how well the cops enforce the bans they dont. There is not a day that dont go by some ahole is talking on thier cell phone driving all over the road or driving way belong the speed limit or they sit at a stop light while it is green texting.
People dont give a damn about no laws they have the attitude I am in my car I will do as I please and no one is going to tell me different.
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03-29-2010 03:20 PM  10 years ago
Dennis (RIP)

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People dont give a damn about no laws they have the attitude I am in my car I will do as I please and no one is going to tell me different.
A several hundred dollar ticket and higher insurance rates might change your mind.

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03-29-2010 03:23 PM  10 years ago
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fwiw...

Here's the deal...I need to do business while driving...They can pass all the laws they want, I don't care...Frankly, the govt. in general can go pound sand.

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03-29-2010 03:28 PM  10 years ago
Dennis (RIP)

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Here's the deal...I need to do business while driving...They can pass all the laws they want, I don't care...Frankly, the govt. in general can go pound sand.
A hands free device is rather simple to install or wear. Most are not that expensive and they work great.

Thats a whole lot better than traffic tickets and higher insurance rates. Thats no way to spread the wealth.

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03-29-2010 03:36 PM  10 years ago
hootowl

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fwiw...

Here's the deal...I need to do business while driving...They can pass all the laws they want, I don't care...Frankly, the govt. in general can go pound sand.

BC
Do your business. Nobody has an issue with that. Be responsible about it. Nobody has an issue with that.

But if you are driving with a phone in your hand up against your ear and not paying attention... not using turn signals, not driving safely then everybody has an issue with that.

I have my own little way of dealing with the dangerous obnoxious drivers. What gets me is if I do something I am in the wrong. Talking while holding a phone against your ear and not allowing yourself to be 100% conscious of what's going on around you is wrong at a level that is over and above all of the other things we do that are dangerous while driving. All I can say is you hand held cell phone users are your own enemy.
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03-29-2010 04:08 PM  10 years ago
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The only way to make this law affective is to impose points on a drivers license. In California the fine is less than $100, that is a joke to most people. Threaten to take a point away or two and people might actually obey the law.So long and thanks for all the fish!
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03-29-2010 05:33 PM  10 years ago
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I can't wait until someone gets pulled over and ticketed for scratching their ear...

[quote]paying attention... not using turn signals, not driving safely

that's an all too common sight these days. No cell phone required...
Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!
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03-29-2010 05:48 PM  10 years ago
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You read the book, you take the test, you pass. Your license was given to you because you signed a "contract" stating you will abide by the SIMPLE rules.Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep
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03-29-2010 05:55 PM  10 years ago
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I can't wait until someone gets pulled over and ticketed for scratching their ear...
I have been pulld over for "not using a hands free device".
I always use a hands free have been since I could remember. I hate holding a phone agasint my head. I was pulled over for using a cell phone and all I did was had my hand over my earrubbing just above my ear had a headache. Cop didnt ticket me but said he swears he saw me rais a phone to my head. hmm why would I do that got a hands free head set in my other ear stupid cop.
Here's the deal...I need to do business while driving...
Use a head set not a big deal. If your texting then pull over. I myself cant stand aholes that text or use a cell phone wihtout a headset or other hands free device. Some people even with a headset cant drive and talk even.
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03-29-2010 05:59 PM  10 years ago
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They should deduct a point or two. But no law is required. I don't get the need for "Special" laws for this.

Isn't thier already a law against "driving with undue care and attention" or "Reckless Endangerment"? Coundn't these laws be applied in these cases?

It's like the dorks trying to apply "Internet" laws...??? We already have laws against both Libel and slander which is already splitting the hair more than it needs to be both mean "You are making untrue crap up about others" but one is in print and the other is spoken, not they want a third for doing it on the internet?????

Talk about foolish, why not make a law against people for "making untrue crap up about others" and apply it anywhere they do it, written, spoken or Tweeted!!!

That's all I have to say about that except only self important morons are driving around all day "Conducting Business" Bus drivers don't need to call customers...... The rest can pull over for a second for the sake of others safety to make a call, otherwise they are arrogant a$$ cracks.

I think they should be allowed to look up the cell phone records of anyone involved in an accident and if the phone was in use, you get assigned all fault, unless you were both on the phone, then it's 50/50... no matter what happened.

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03-29-2010 06:07 PM  10 years ago
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"I think they should be allowed to look up the cell phone records of anyone involved in an accident and if the phone was in use, you get assigned all fault, unless you were both on the phone, then it's 50/50... no matter what happened"
And then they should be banned for life from ever driving again.
Take the Bus ,walk or ride a bicycle.
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03-29-2010 07:00 PM  10 years ago
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they can easily look at the call log on the phone but that would require a search warrant.Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!
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03-29-2010 07:49 PM  10 years ago
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I think they should be allowed to look up the cell phone records of anyone involved in an accident and if the phone was in use, you get assigned all fault, unless you were both on the phone, then it's 50/50... no matter what happened.
What if you did not have your phone because you accidentally left it at home and someone was using your phone when you got in an accident. An accident bad enough that if you had a phone it might have been tossed out of the vehicle and been lost. But instead they look up your record and see that your phone was in use, then what are you going to do? It is your word against the officers, and your word will usually lose.
So long and thanks for all the fish!
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03-29-2010 08:26 PM  10 years ago
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Scott, todays phones have GPS tech in them. it is very easy to tell if the phone was at home or at the scene of the incident.

Now. people might start saying it was someone else in the car using the phone. I wouldn't care. If the phone is registered to you, and you get in the accident, and the phone was in the car and in use at the time.

Busted. It should include a fine and demerits so that your insurance goes up.

and SSN, the whole "privacy" issue is a joke. People are paranoid over information about them that USED to be accessiable to anyone with a telephone book or knew how to dial directory assistance. Today, the crybabies are so full of self importance they really think anyone cares?

On the phone? Off the phone? It's not like we give a crap what you were talking about, or even to who. We are not interested in recording the call. Just want to know if the phone was in use at the time of the accident.

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03-29-2010 08:36 PM  10 years ago
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Now. people might start saying it was someone else in the car using the phone. I wouldn't care. If the phone is registered to you, and you get in the accident, and the phone was in the car and in use at the time.

Busted. It should include a fine and demerits so that your insurance goes up.
I have bluetooth mounted on my dashboard (Parrot System).

How are they going to prove if I had my cell phone up to my ear, or using the dash mounted bluetooth?

What about GM's "On Star"? Same thing. Its dash mounted.

What if you were wearing a bluetooth thing, got in an accident and it got knocked off your head? Thats very likely.

Nothing they could prove.

Sorry, won't work.

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03-29-2010 10:09 PM  10 years ago
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Scott, todays phones have GPS tech in them. it is very easy to tell if the phone was at home or at the scene of the incident.
I know this, it has been in our phones for close to 10 years I believe, but does the cel company record the GPS location everytime a call is made? That is the only way to tell where the phone was used.
So long and thanks for all the fish!
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