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04-03-2010 02:00 PM  10 years ago
Zaaaguy72

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I've been flying vbars for 3 years and the Beast is the first flybarless unit I've been excited about since vbar4.0 came out! The 3g sucks in my opinion and I'm not a fan of the CY stuff, but the beast sound like it has all the rght tools. Anyone know what us retailer is planning on selling them?Team Sanjel!
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04-03-2010 04:00 PM  10 years ago
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IMHO beastx will just be like the g3. It will work OK but the updates will never come or come very slowly. Alot will have Q/C issues and not having native sat support on launch is just weak.

Let me sell something for cheap, then tax the hell out of shipping then require another part for sat use. Then I can tax the hell out of shipping for that. You will be right up there to an sk-720 or v-bar!

Sound to me that they are rushing it , we all know what that means! If it works as good as everything out or thats coming out, I will be eating my foot and enjoying it. As of now I wouldnt be holding my breath for this unit.
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04-03-2010 04:07 PM  10 years ago
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I hope your wrong but part of me is suspicious too because of the cheap price.Team Sanjel!
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04-03-2010 06:01 PM  10 years ago
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So why are computers so cheap as opposed to what they cost ten years ago.
Let's not go down this road again...

While the better 3 and 6 axis gyros have some "pricey" components, the bulk of the cost is software and development. Also, as big as we think the heli market is, it's still very much a niche/boutique market. These type of units will be sold by the thousands, not millions or multiples of that...

Also, gyros should be precisely calibrated by the manufacturer. This step can be skipped to save money, but performance will "suffer"...

Anyway, back to it.
Flybarless - The future was yesterday...you in?
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04-03-2010 09:40 PM  10 years ago
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I'm not too sure it will be "bad".

BeastX wasn't made to be cheapest, it's sold cheap as an introduction price because an internal fight between Align and maker of BeastX, so it very well be that they "selling to a price with their pants down" as we say it here, i.e. loss.
BeastX was to be Align's unit, Align jumped ship end of deal and sent the order to Logitech who makes the 3G, BeastX maker got furious.

I have not seen a German yet who makes a low quality product on purpose, perhaps this will be the first, perhaps not, until I get one, I wont know.

9 days to go, give or take, then we know.

By the way, anyone consider VBar extremely expensive now-a-days?
my first was $1200 + Swedish tax (25%) back when it was released...

(Note though, those units, my first ones, are still flying on various machines here in Sweden this day, with v4.0)
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04-03-2010 10:27 PM  10 years ago
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What heli re you testing it out in Mel?Team Sanjel!
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04-04-2010 12:55 AM  10 years ago
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IMHO beastx will just be like the g3. It will work OK but the updates will never come or come very slowly. Alot will have Q/C issues and not having native sat support on launch is just weak.
Yes, I saw your IMHO.....But how would you even consider that they will have a lot of Q/C issues?
Or that updates will come slow or never?
Are you a Rep for a competitor?
Let me sell something for cheap, then tax the hell out of shipping then require another part for sat use. Then I can tax the hell out of shipping for that. You will be right up there to an sk-720 or v-bar!
Easy answer to that....don't buy it.
Sound to me that they are rushing it , we all know what that means!
And exactly how did you come to that brilliant conclusion?
If it works as good as everything out or thats coming out, I will be eating my foot and enjoying it. As of now I wouldnt be holding my breath for this unit.
Coming from your unbiased opinion....
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04-04-2010 01:12 AM  10 years ago
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Rushing it??? Well lets see not having sat support from the start, what kind of crap is that???

How did I come to Q/C issues? Well lets see... any other product even close to what they are charging w/o shipping has Q/C issues.

I have tried many fbl units, so I can have an opinion, unlike you that just try to troll!

alfred Im starting to see something here... your trolling helifreak and rr regarding everything but the beastx?! What's the deal man???

I find it funny that you do very little research on a product and then try to find a fault but then you get shot down....

And you call me a rep
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04-04-2010 01:20 AM  10 years ago
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MrMel

I do agree with all your points... Lets all hope I find out how my foot taste
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04-04-2010 02:01 AM  10 years ago
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Talking smack doesn't prove anything, we will just have to see when it's released if it lives up to the hype.Team Sanjel!
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04-04-2010 02:01 AM  10 years ago
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Rushing it??? Well lets see not having sat support from the start, what kind of crap is that???
They are a European company and from the looks of it, are concentrating on there first.
Until and if they setup support for your market, it will be any person's own judgement if they want to take the risk....just the way it should be.
How did I come to Q/C issues? Well lets see... any other product even close to what they are charging w/o shipping has Q/C issues.
That statement is just so far out there...do you actually read the crap you write?
So in your opinion,,, because they don't charge enough...it has to be a crappy product
I have tried many fbl units, so I can have an opinion, unlike you that just try to troll!
Mate...I have been around when you were still in diapers.
alfred Im starting to see something here... your trolling helifreak and rr regarding everything but the beastx?! What's the deal man???
I don't like Cheerleaders like you running around putting **** on other products while talking up others that you just happen to be a fanboy of.
I find it funny that you do very little research on a product and then try to find a fault but then you get shot down....
Shot down by whom..you?
Unlike you, I intend to purchase "both" products and I don't cheer-lead for anybody.
And unlike you...I can speak/read/write fluently German, so I was able to read the BeastX manual properly.
You just got your knickers in a knot because I asked some legitimit questions in regards to beta testing. And in your blind fanboy mind, you failed to see that none of my remarks or questions said anything negative about the unit.
And you call me a rep
Yep
Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep.......
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04-04-2010 02:11 AM  10 years ago
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Talking smack doesn't prove anything, we will just have to see when it's released if it lives up to the hype.
Spot on
I want to see it in the hands of the everyday User on Nitro birds with all it's wards.
And before I open my wallet, I am waiting for Jo Bloke to have used it and see where he runs into trouble.
And that goes for both units....BeastX and SK720.
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04-04-2010 02:11 AM  10 years ago
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That post just show how arrogant you really are. On top of that your acting like a child...

I have always tried not to argue with an idiot
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04-04-2010 02:41 AM  10 years ago
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That post just show how arrogant you really are. On top of that your acting like a child...

I have always tried not to argue with an idiot
Ouch
That really hurt my sensitive feelings.
I am devastated.
Coming from you, it really ranks high.
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04-04-2010 02:51 AM  10 years ago
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Well I hope this unit does well as it seems to be priced very well I have seen issues with the 3G (still unresolved to date), heard of QC issues with the 720 (failures due to bad solder joints and such but it is still in it's pre release stage so hopefully that will be fixed ), and the CY unit is still a no show (hopefully soon though).

I say by June we should have a clear picture where the FBL units rate and by that time all issues should be resolved or uncovered ........Ron
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04-04-2010 08:53 AM  10 years ago
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Apples and oranges. For example Vbar and most of the rest use the industry-standard high-quality tail sensor, which is a pricey part.
This is definetly not true. As to informations on German forums by people involved in it´s R&D, the BeastX uses the same quality MEMS-sensors as it´s higher priced competitors. As these are being mass-produced for the automotive industry, they are a minor component in terms of the total production costs of the unit.
David
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04-04-2010 09:11 AM  10 years ago
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heard of QC issues with the 720 (failures due to bad solder joints and such but it is still in it's pre release stage so hopefully that will be fixed ),
That's news to me.
Where did yo hear that?It should be resolved by the time it comes on the market. The SK360 failure rate was very low, so they seem to have a good QC system.
By the time it comes to us we should have a ton of User reports as the first run is already sold out.
Oops...drifted Off Topic.
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04-04-2010 01:02 PM  10 years ago
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OMG! I want to see it in everyday live. Somebody has to test it. I have heard from so and so that.... Get a live guys. If you are so sceptical about every Unit that is there or comes out . DONT BUY ONE!!And stick to your Flybars or do you start making a science about paddles??Gee I have never heard so much bull in my live and it seem to get worse every day on RR. Everytime a new unit comes out the same bla goes down. Just dont buy them simple, if any of these units is soo crap then why do you guys care?Everything has an Issue period nothing is perfect.
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04-04-2010 03:06 PM  10 years ago
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heard of QC issues with the 720 (failures due to bad solder joints and such but it is still in it's pre release stage so hopefully that will be fixed
That's news to me also, never read any issue like that in the beta forums. You are right though, in a few months we will all know what these are about.

I was giving my opnion yesterday that I felt got attacked for really just speaking my mind.

I do hope the beastx comes out for that price(fix the shipping charge) and keeps up. It will be a game changer!

I guess why I feel this way regarding the beastx is that the 3g left a bad taste in my mouth(another cheap unit). Also why would align drop something so great for something that their own pilots dont even want to fly? It could have came down to just a dead line and have nothing to do with the product.

Well only time will tell and will be relying on MRMel for his feedback on the beastx, Im trying to save my money for the total-g.
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04-04-2010 03:08 PM  10 years ago
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Also why would align drop something so great for something that their own pilots dont even want to fly?
Rumor is price and price only.
Gone fishing..or hunting..or something
My site: http://heli.dacsa.net - VBar videos and more
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