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03-13-2010 01:34 PM  8 years agoPost 1
LaurenceGough

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Hey guys,

I'm trying to gather the courage to do some inverted autos with my Logo 500 (550mm blades).

I can do them in the simulator fine, I learnt in the simulator by flipping out from inverted but I believe roll outs lose less headspeed (I can do also)?

I can do upright autos from all directions landing in all orientations.

Any more tips? Should I do backwards upright autos first?

Just a bit scared...

Cheers,

Laurence

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03-13-2010 01:36 PM  8 years agoPost 2
JRjoe

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Go for it!!!!!


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Indoor plumbing??? No, we don't need that!!!

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03-13-2010 02:19 PM  8 years agoPost 3
rotormonkey

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Yup, what he said. And let us know what happens when you do

If you pull it off, I'm totally gunna do it too

If it can't hover, it ain't worth flying.

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03-13-2010 02:21 PM  8 years agoPost 4
BarracudaHockey

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If you're going to roll out then it really doesn't matter but if you're going to flip out of it, then make sure you're comfy coming in backwards upright.

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03-13-2010 02:25 PM  8 years agoPost 5
LaurenceGough

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Good point BarracudaHockey! I will practice more in the sim and do a backwards one in real life first.

I'm also going to do some more aggressive upright autos to make sure I get the complete feel for dropping headspeed etc.

I think I will go for a roll while dropping with forward speed (mostly level). Up high to start with.

Man, I've never been so nervous about something before... I think I shall wait for a windy day, maybe tomorrow as it's meant to be windy then.

On the other hand I can't wait until I can do them!

Thank you guys.

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03-13-2010 02:35 PM  8 years agoPost 6
rotormonkey

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The trouble with autos is there's no practicing up high first.

Though I suppose you could do a flip and approach high up, and bail out. I think that's likely what I'll end up doing once or twice, just to make sure it ain't gonna fall like a rock.

If it can't hover, it ain't worth flying.

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03-13-2010 02:45 PM  8 years agoPost 7
nickt919

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I've found that if you can do any stunt repetitively with success on the sim it works out on the model too.

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03-13-2010 03:02 PM  8 years agoPost 8
Funky Trex

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I would definately roll out of them up high for the first few tries. I used cheap blades too so I wouldn't be so mad when I crashed.

I tried them a few times on a 450 but I just kept crashing so this was my first attempt with a bigger heli. I had a bunch of guys at the field egging me on to try it and you can definately see how nervous/scared I was for that first one

Watch at YouTube

Sorry it is a little long, but I thought the extra time helps show how hard it was to finally go for it.

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03-13-2010 03:34 PM  8 years agoPost 9
LaurenceGough

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Great video man, very nice! That's the exact kind of approach I am planning to do.

Haha, maybe I'll record my first on video too!

Thanks!

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03-13-2010 03:48 PM  8 years agoPost 10
Jlerch

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If you do the same inverted approach, but flip out of it, you'll land going backwards with the nose low and the tail out of the weeds :-)

** warning, while on approach and flipping don't move the collective until your right side up! **

James Lerch - Tampa Bay FL

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03-14-2010 05:11 PM  8 years agoPost 11
LaurenceGough

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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Back from doing my first inverted autos! And my first backwards and piro autos!

I noticed when I piro it drains a LOAD of headspeed and can whip sometimes, so I guess the 553mm main blades don't work too well with the additional load of the tail rotor.

My first inverted auto went well, but when I was coming in the wind blew it too far back and for the first time ever I bailed out with power which went just perfect... The next three were just fine!

I rolled out of them.

Thank you everyone, your comments such as "Go for it!!!!!" were in my mind .

Also ordered V-Bar today and the head for my logo, maybe it might help me auto :P.

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03-14-2010 05:45 PM  8 years agoPost 12
holzback

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i like to flip out because when you come in and start to flare you have already srarted the flip then you just flip it on over. i think flipping feels better a lower altitudes

you aint crashin you aint learnin

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03-14-2010 05:51 PM  8 years agoPost 13
LaurenceGough

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Yeah, I learnt by flipping out, I think it's easier but I guess a bit more chance to go wrong if you panic. Will give it a try .

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03-14-2010 07:09 PM  8 years agoPost 14
rotormonkey

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Awesome to hear they went well.. Okay, now I HAVE to try for real. Can't let a random guy on the internet show me up! :P

If it can't hover, it ain't worth flying.

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03-14-2010 07:48 PM  8 years agoPost 15
LaurenceGough

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Give it a go mate .

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03-15-2010 03:09 AM  8 years agoPost 16
LaurenceGough

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Quick question, is it possible to do a auto straight downwards from up high? I guess not as I've never seen it done...

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03-15-2010 03:17 AM  8 years agoPost 17
rotormonkey

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It is, but it's a bit harder to manage. You have to pump the pitch a little to arrest the downward momentum, and you have to come in a little hotter since there's less (or no) wind under the rotor.

If you're talking about doing it inverted, I'm not sure I'd want to try it

If it can't hover, it ain't worth flying.

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03-15-2010 10:47 AM  8 years agoPost 18
Ray Fernandez

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Just have a bailout plan. Do the inverted auto high and get it right-side up while still high. Continue doing this until you can get lower, and lower and more comfortable with the approach.

Ray Fernandez - GUAM

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03-15-2010 01:09 PM  8 years agoPost 19
Fnity

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I did my first Inverted Auto last week when I ran out of fuel
Don't think I'll be doing any more anytime soon, I still need wash those undies.
Thanks to the simulator I didn't panic and just broke my rear skid, and stripped a few gears, but it could have been really ugly. I was flipping about 15ft off the ground, and 15ft in front of me and can now say I've done a inverted auto!!

Frank Leyva
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03-16-2010 04:49 PM  8 years agoPost 20
chopper_crazy

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You can do it!!!! Lets see some more video

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