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03-12-2010 09:50 PM  8 years agoPost 1
airsoft1779

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Hola all. I just bought my first nitro heli, see my profile, and I need some advice on starters, a pump, and a governor and whatever else I will need. I was thinking like a hobico 50 or 90 starter(need shaft too) and some manual pump(not sure). Both need to be as cheap as possible, the align starter is to expensive..

As for the governor, I think I've decided on the CY ATG or the align governor. I can't decide which. The align sells used for very cheap.

I really just need links to what is good and to know what my options are.

thanks

6s Trex 450 PRO and Vision 50 Comp.

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03-12-2010 10:20 PM  8 years agoPost 2
Brokenlink

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Starter If you want to go cheap but still get a good starter,I see some Sullivan High Torque starters going for $30 here sometimes,or get a TorqueMaster.
Fuel pump get a Hobbico hand crank one.
Glo Driver,take your pic at the hobbie shop or ask around here,most nitro guys have a few and might sell one to you.
[/B]Plug Wrench Again they are cheap new
Fuel Jug Cap make nitro life easier,can get away without though.
Gov.[B] If you are just getting into nitro,you dont need a gov.unless you are already that good.You can set the radio up to do almost anything you want to.Save your money there,buy fuel.

Jamie Griffith

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03-13-2010 12:40 AM  8 years agoPost 3
devin120

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Align high torque starter. Easy compact, super powerful.

I use ATG V3 (WITH G VIEW) gov and find them great, with my my futaba 8FGH i can program in the rpm from the controller, although you should verify with the g view and more importantly an optical tach however mine has been very accurate.

One of the continuous hassles ive had with nitros is the starting equipment.

I walk to the flight line with my heli and starter and a flat head screwdriver and ball link popper in my pocket and im set.

Mind you you will need a reg with a built in glo igniter for this. The align reg with glo igniter puts the whole package together.

Could not be happier.

When it comes to initial cost, my view is do it once, and do it right. Save more money before you start if you must, the end result will be worth it.

DC

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03-13-2010 01:39 AM  8 years agoPost 4
rcjon

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Cheap glow driver. Maybe too cheap.

Ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for Radio Control Helicoptering.

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03-13-2010 01:49 AM  8 years agoPost 5
fastflyer20

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IMHO this is the best pump. Similar price, but way more durable than the competition.
http://www.dbproducts.com/store/prnp.htm
Just the pump is also available.

Buy a glow driver with an indicator to show if the glow plug is blown.
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Product...?ProdID=DYN1955

You can use any starter just add heli wand
Tower hobbies has a decent starter at a fair price.
I bought 2 - 2 cell 2200mah lipo's and made mine cordless

If you are in a club, check with nitro plane guys to see if they are selling any field equipment.

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03-13-2010 01:58 AM  8 years agoPost 6
Brokenlink

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rcjon Done that MANY,MANY times Do what ya gotta do!!

Jamie Griffith

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03-13-2010 03:27 AM  8 years agoPost 7
Zaneman007

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Gov - get a multigov or else you will need a tach.

Manual fuel pumps- there are two basic types gear mesh and pinch tubing. The ones that pinch the tubing to push fuel will last. But, electric ones are not that much more and the convenience is worth the few extra dollars.

Glow driver- I use a power panel. It lets me know if the glow plug is hot, good or bad which is very useful and supplies power for the starter, electric fuel pump and glow driver(adjustable).

I had a hobbico which burned up? I replaced it with a sullivan, and the shaft is messed up. The starter wand was not secure and it ate the shaft. I'm currently looking for a replacement. Thinking about using a drill.

Field battery, you will need something to drive the starter motor or power your power panel. Used 3S lipos work extremely well, and save you the cost of disposal fee.
...need to be as cheap as possible, the align starter is to expensive..
Although I agree with the align comment, in this hobby cheaper sometimes means buying twice or frequently. Get quality stuff and it will last, get cheap and be prepared to keep your wallet open and credit card handy.

Old Guys Rule!

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03-13-2010 03:54 AM  8 years agoPost 8
Shawn Behrens

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starter = flight leader on 4s lipo
It is cheap at only $25 at most places. On 4s it will start 90s easily. I wouldn't trade the jack hammer I mean align starter for a flight leader.
shawn

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03-13-2010 04:26 AM  8 years agoPost 9
fastflyer20

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airsoft1779 wants the inexpensive way out. That is why I suggested a system that does not require any power panel or 12v battery.

I am a little disappointed in the few Align starters other pilots have at the local field. They are very nice quality, but hammering the wand into the driver on the heli. We flew in 30 degree weather - and surprise, surprise, surprise, my cheap modified starter worked better than the Align to turn over my friends T700.

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03-13-2010 07:08 AM  8 years agoPost 10
devin120

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Ask your friend to actually charge his.

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03-13-2010 07:11 AM  8 years agoPost 11
outhouse

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sbmon i followed your advise reading back through countless post about starters. I bought the flight leader and run it on 4s and it pop's the 91h over sweet as can be. I love this set up .

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03-13-2010 02:30 PM  8 years agoPost 12
BarracudaHockey

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+1 on the Multigov suggestion

Andy
AMA 77227
http://www.jaxrc.com

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03-13-2010 02:36 PM  8 years agoPost 13
Zaneman007

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does not require any power panel or 12v battery.
Not sure how you are getting out of the battery requirement.

Are you suggesting a pull start?

Old Guys Rule!

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03-13-2010 03:24 PM  8 years agoPost 14
fastflyer20

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No 12v or power panel needed

Glow driver - Nicad powered with indicator to check plug condition $20
(can use built on glow driver, but more expensive)

Tower starter $22
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...?&I=LXJC35&P=ML
Heli wand $15
http://www.helidirect.com/6mm-heli-...ing-p-16800.hdx
Lipo batteries to make cordless starter $16.50
http://www.hobbypartz.com/14-8v-220...er-battery.html
OR possible 2 2 cells depending on what charger you already have from the 450 $10 each
http://www.hobbypartz.com/83p-2200mah-2s1p-74-20c.html

Dave Brown Pump $15
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...1P?I=LXB889&P=8

Total - $89 + shipping

Plus watch the classifieds and Craigs list for used stuff to save even more.

Can't get much simpler ( or less $$$) at the field than this!

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03-13-2010 04:13 PM  8 years agoPost 15
Zaneman007

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No 12v [battery]
??????

FYI - the word "battery" applies to lipos, regardless of the voltage.

Now back to the topic, (please note comment above)

I would recommend the old batteries from your 450. They may suck in the 450 but work great in a field box.

Old Guys Rule!

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03-13-2010 05:06 PM  8 years agoPost 16
airsoft1779

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fastflyer20. that is perfect! thanks

6s Trex 450 PRO and Vision 50 Comp.

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03-13-2010 07:17 PM  8 years agoPost 17
fastflyer20

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Your welcome, hope it all works out.
Electrics are fun , but the nitros are cool...

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03-13-2010 08:28 PM  8 years agoPost 18
tadawson

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Gov - get a multigov or else you will need a tach.
Blatantly incorrect . . . either the GV-1, the Multigov, or the ATG can set speeds directly from the display, knowing only the gear ratio with no need for a tach . . . and perhaps others as well. These three I own, and know definitively will set with no tach . . .

Myself, I prefer the ATG for it's flexibility, but for a new pilot, a GV-1 for a good price would also work well, and you don't need any extra parts to see values and program it, unlike the ATG and Multigov . . .

- Tim

Friends don't let friends become electrotarded . . . .

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03-14-2010 07:49 PM  8 years agoPost 19
airsoft1779

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well new to nitro, I've been flying electric for 3 years so Im an expert in that region. So.. everyone is agreeing that a ATG is better then the align gov.? I will probably have help from some club members so setup isn't to much of a concern, just its performce.

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