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03-12-2010 09:20 PM  8 years agoPost 21
heligoole

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Did i mention turbines.....lol

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03-12-2010 09:31 PM  8 years agoPost 22
cowetachopper

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Ahhhhh..... Turbine is my goal one day. One day I will have me one. Now that is a sound and smell that you can not beat!

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03-13-2010 01:25 AM  8 years agoPost 23
RedOctober

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Generally, any mirco size to a 500 size heli should be electric. Anything larger, 50-90 should be nitro (more flight time). It all depends on your POU (philosophy of use).

Comparing 50 size electric vs 50 size nitro:
Nitro Pros
-Longer flight times 8-10mins +/-
-Less than 2sec of refuel time (depending on how fast you pump)
-Fuel and go!
-A very nice smoke trail to watch
-Teaches you Collective Management
-The noise (you learn to love it)

Nitro Cons
-Tuning (Not that hard to learn but improper tuning = blown engine)
-Cleaning the mess!
-Noise (Have to go a suitable field/ some people may not tolerate it)
-Slightly less power (However 2 stroke motors are starting to come up now i.e. OS55)

Electric Pros
-POWER! POWER! Power!
-Clean, no mess to clean
-Fly anywhere (sorta, depending on the size)
-Turbine sound

Electric Cons
-Short flight times 4-5mins
-Power drops towards end of flight
-Long charge times (30mins-1hr depending on charger/capacity of Lipo)
-Expensive Lipos (Especially when buying multiple packs)
-Expensive charger (Especially, if your charging more cells)

The list could go on and on forever. Buy whatever your can afford or buy both.

Happy 3D

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03-13-2010 01:54 AM  8 years agoPost 24
LaurenceGough

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With a good governor and decent lipos power doesn't change during flight.

Also electric can have much longer run times it depends on the power you want.

A con of nitro is expensive fuel, I know a lot of guys in the USA get it in batches etc but when I work it out lipos work out cheaper per a flight or the same price for any size heli, again this is just what I have worked out.

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03-13-2010 04:44 AM  8 years agoPost 25
Terrabit

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I fly both. I have a 10s vbar Logo 600 that cranks out oodles of oomph for 7 minutes. I also fly a vbar t700 that cranks for roughly 8 minutes. The Logo is much more precise and responsive. The 700 is also quite fun. The biggest difference to me is where I can fly. Nitro greatly limmits my choice of locations.

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03-13-2010 05:11 AM  8 years agoPost 26
RescueRev

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How long can a gas helicopter fly on a tank of fuel. Not nitro gas, I have read sometimes you can get a 30 min. flight on a gas heli not a nitro. Can you really get these extended times on a gas? Or what kind of times do all of you flying gas helicopters get /

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03-13-2010 08:33 AM  8 years agoPost 27
UK Helinut

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If flight duration is what you are concerned about, then Gas is the way to go.
30 mins run time on a tank is not unusual. Many gas conversions that still use the standard size fuel tank that they did when they were nitro powered will get far longer duration than that.
I converted a Futura SE to gas, and on the standard tank it easily did 50 mins.
The reason the Spectra G only does 15 mins per tank is that the tank is smaller than a 50 size nitro.

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03-13-2010 03:54 PM  8 years agoPost 28
RescueRev

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I was thinking after I learn how to fly my 450. The longer flight times with a gas helicopter would be a big plus. Or are there issues with a gas helicopters that would out weigh the longer flight times?

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03-13-2010 05:53 PM  8 years agoPost 29
motorhead540

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i fly electric also nitro and am currently working on my gasser which is a century predator, nitro is noisy but you get 15 min or so on a tank 30 size like and hawk pro or a raptor. gas is suppost to get even longer flight times and i agree electric is very convinet and clean just the heli,radio and a couple batts and your set where as the fuel powered require more support equiptment gas requires heli,radio and fuel can be pull started and have onboard electrical system for charging receiver pack and other on board equiptment lights ,ect

wife says if i'm going to be an addict at least its to a heli

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03-13-2010 09:02 PM  8 years agoPost 30
rbort

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Gas is an excellent choice
I used to fly nitro as my first helicopter, wanted a bigger one but nitro was getting too expensive costing me over $300 a year with an OS32. So I went and got my Minair 1005 gasser which I loved so much I won't even touch a nitro ever again. You can't even give it to me for free, seriously.

A gasser is 95% cleaner to run than a nitro, and doesn't need any field equipment to run. You need your gas can, your TX case, and your gasser and you can literally fly all day long on less than $3 worth of fuel, which would be 1 flight for a small nitro these days.

Flight times are long, I usually fly for 15 minutes and land even though I can stay in the air longer just to take a break and let someone else fly. On-board power is not an issue at all, there are ways to make that become a non-issue, and the gasser will give you many hours of fun and time to practice your maneuvers without constant interruption of landing to change battery packs or refuel a nitro bird. Solar panels can make your TX battery a non-issue as well.

Cost wise its the most economical ship to run, and the fuel savings will pay for the helicopter in about 1 to 2 flying seasons depending on how much you fly.

You can take a look at my gallery and see my gasser helicopters up close. If you have any questions please feel free to PM me and I'll be glad to respond.

There is still a place in my fleet for a little electric, the 450 trex. Batteries are reasonable and more importantly its my indoor machine in the winters during bad weather and also my travel machine - goes with me on trips in the suitcase. All the Jamaica aerial shots that you see in my gallery were taken by the little 450. The ones of the houses in the snow were taken by my gasser carrying a full rig camera mount with video downlink.

-=>Raja.

MA 1005 Hanson 280, 4210 flts
Spectra 27 3DMax, 3300 flts
Whiplash V1-2 Hanson 300, 1590 flts
Whiplash V2 Hanson 300, 437 flts

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03-16-2010 04:59 PM  8 years agoPost 31
chopper_crazy

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I love my gas helis. Nothing will replace them but it is hard to get the power out of them compared to a large electric or even a nitro bird. It all depends on you flying style. My fleet consist of a MA Spectra G, Century Radikal LT FBL, T-Rex 600NSP, T-Rex 600ESP, T-Rex 250SE

It's a complex, costly, glow powered anti-gravity machine!

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03-17-2010 04:34 AM  8 years agoPost 32
jschenck

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As a side note what kind of flight times can you get with a gas helicopter?
Looks like a few good answers there and add to what Raja said 15-20 minutes easily before I start to worry about fuel and that's running a modified G26 engine at high speed. Get a stock engine and cruise around at 1650 RPM (Plenty for a 710mm bladed heli) and you could easily get 30+ minutes. This 30 minutes of flying is about $.30 a tank. Compared to my Trex-700 which gets about 8 minutes a tank and costs about $3.00/flight in fuel.

But gas heli's are more to learn, more finicky to setup and they are expensive to buy and crash One good crash will buy a year's worth of fuel. this is true with any 710mm bladed heli.

For a next step up I think it's hard to beat a used plastic framed nitro 50. Cheap to buy, cheap to run, cheap(er) to fix and good performance.

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03-17-2010 05:08 AM  8 years agoPost 33
Sean Bosse

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+1 on the gasser! There are a lot of great guys on the gasser forum that are always willing to help, one of them being, some guy named Raja I think?!?!

Sean

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03-17-2010 06:06 AM  8 years agoPost 34
chopper_crazy

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the gassers would be the last birds in my fleet that I would get rid of. No mess, fly all day for $3 and super long flight times, not to mention the realistic sound.

It's a complex, costly, glow powered anti-gravity machine!

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03-17-2010 06:33 AM  8 years agoPost 35
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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Electric is the future.

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Scorpion Power Systems
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Kontronik Drives

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03-17-2010 04:18 PM  8 years agoPost 36
Sean Bosse

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Justin you do have a point. At the rate of progress in battery technology, not to mention a dwindling supply of fossil fuels, electric will be the future of this hobby. As for now however, it much faster to re-fuel and go rather than charge and wait, and wait, and wait.....

Sean

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03-17-2010 09:11 PM  8 years agoPost 37
Carey

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How do you like your lovin?

5 minutes goin for it?
10 minutes chillin out a bit?
20 minutes of granny lovin.

Take a pick buddy, or just hit this puppy!
Nitro, Gas, or Electric... Click Me!

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03-17-2010 11:39 PM  8 years agoPost 38
3kidzheli

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Get 'em all! Na just joking... All and each have pros and cons best to go to a flyin and check out all types and ask details of each, weigh it all out and choose the one that fits your interest the most. I fly gas, nitro, and elec but I like my gas the most I would say. The fusl is cheaper and eventually pays for the machine and I agree electric is GREAT i just can't afford the batteries I want. It is just a preference thing but a flyin will definetly help you since when you do decide then you have to decide which frickin brand to go with!!! Good luck!

There is no such thing as up, it's all out...

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03-18-2010 01:39 AM  8 years agoPost 39
heli-cuzz

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Gas, nitro or electric
All the above.

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03-18-2010 02:13 AM  8 years agoPost 40
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nitro vs electric

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nitro+vs+elect...ww.runryder.com

I dont suffer from mental iIlness, I actually enjoy mine!

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