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03-12-2010 02:15 AM  8 years agoPost 1
ourhogheaven

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Does anyone have any idea what a New in the Box Gorham Rebel and New in the Box 40 FP Engine with muffler might be worth. I'm thinking of selling it.

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03-12-2010 02:45 AM  8 years agoPost 2
BLUETHUNDER

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On Ebay the OS .40 FP engine would go between $40.00 - $60.00
The GMP Rebel not as popular as the Cricket $200.00 - $250.00

Don't forget Ebay listing fees, final value fees, and Paypal fees
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

deduct about 10% from your auction's ending price.

They don't call it "Fee Bay" for nothing!!!!

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03-12-2010 05:31 PM  8 years agoPost 3
ch-47c

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Like BlueThunder says, not as popular as the Cricket, but there is someone out there who wants a Rebel. Especially NIB. Crickets attraction is its dimunitive size. I would only sell yours as a pair, not without the engine as it is period correct. Did you list in the classifieds?

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03-12-2010 11:47 PM  8 years agoPost 4
ourhogheaven

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Rebel
I haven't listed in the classifieds yet.

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03-13-2010 12:40 AM  8 years agoPost 5
Wobbly Goblin

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I haven't listed in the classifieds yet.
I wouldn't take a dime under $300.00 for it minus the motor. If you can't get that, hang onto it a little longer. People are getting ridiculous prices for (NIB) Cricket's these days. One recently sold for $650.00 on eBay. That said, the Rebel isn't as popular right now, but you might be surprised what you'll get for it in a year or two.

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03-13-2010 04:08 AM  8 years agoPost 6
BLUETHUNDER

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The Cricket kit did not actually sell for $650.00 on Ebay

It was a SCAM

https://rc.runryder.com/t573276p1/

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03-13-2010 04:17 AM  8 years agoPost 7
Wobbly Goblin

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Na, I don't see anything in that thread that proves any scam...just a bunch of accusations against the seller. I think someone saw it, wanted it and paid the asking price (just my two cents).

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03-13-2010 04:34 AM  8 years agoPost 8
rcpilotmike

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In the exoctic car market I see people trying to drive the price up by making large offers on cars. The same thing can happen in any collectable market. To me a product is worth what someone is willing to pay. I've been offered a very reasonable sum of money for my nib cricket 300. I didn't want to sell it and really would have felt guilty taking what I was offered. The bottom line is someone wanted it that bad and it was worth it to them.
I would love to have this nib Rebel. It would complete my GMP collection nicely. I have a price I'm willing to pay. Someone may want it more then me.
Good luck to the seller and also to whoever ends up with it. It is a good find.

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03-13-2010 04:52 AM  8 years agoPost 9
Wobbly Goblin

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To me a product is worth what someone is willing to pay. I've been offered a very reasonable sum of money for my nib cricket 300. I didn't want to sell it and really would have felt guilty taking what I was offered. The bottom line is someone wanted it that bad and it was worth it to them.
Very true! For the record, it was me that offered to purchase the 300 and the offer still stands.

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03-13-2010 05:36 AM  8 years agoPost 10
ch-47c

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Na, I don't see anything in that thread that proves any scam...just a bunch of accusations against the seller.
Why would someone buy a Cricket for $650 when the only picture was a photo of the box top? One bid for $300 and then sells for $650 and the second bid of $650 wasn't listed. I don't think you can do side deals with ebay? People have their buddies bid on their stuff to keep from losing it for a price they don't like. It has nothing to do with outbidding someone. You only do it when the bidding gets hot and you want to cut the competition out. There wasn't anything on the site that showed a heated bidding going on. Not even a $301.50 bid. Something smelled and it wasn't fish.

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03-13-2010 12:57 PM  8 years agoPost 11
Wozza_au

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I don't think you can do side deals with ebay?
Yep you can but its frowned on, happens all the time
someone local asks to have a look,pops around makes an offer above the standing bid..seller thinks ebay fees,mucking around with postage,risk and say's what the hey ok
Whilst I dont think it went for 650 it would have gone for above the orig 300 bid.

From what Im seeing here in Aus these things are now being picked up by collectors, so that puts them in the what ppl are prepared to pay rather than worth category
check out tether cars on ebay if you wanna see what happens when collectors get into the bidding
As for a nib Rebel/motor Id pay up to 500$ if money wasnt an issue as thats what its worth to me.Down here ppl ask some big $$ for collectible RC stuff http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT

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03-13-2010 02:50 PM  8 years agoPost 12
R-Moore74

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Prices....
Hmmm. I must agree with you guys saying an item is worth what someone is willing to pay...some time ago I sold an old Hirobo for a large sum of money, in my eyes. He made the offer and I wasn't too keen to keep it, so off it went. Then again, I bought a NIB Kalt some 4 weeks ago...also a pretty sweet amount of dollaras, and again - I wanted it! In my honest opinion none of these old helicopters are actually worth a lot, in money, but my passion controls my mind and there goes the handful of bucks! (Directly translated from the norwegian term "affeksjonsverdi" its called "affection value"....not sure if that is correct in english though...

BEntHeli
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03-13-2010 04:48 PM  8 years agoPost 13
ch-47c

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Yep you can but its frowned on, happens all the time
Huh.. I read their rules and complied with them when I bidded for a Cricket and got it. I guess I'm old-fashioned.
"affeksjonsverdi" its called "affection value"....not sure if that is correct in english though..
Sentimental value.

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03-13-2010 04:56 PM  8 years agoPost 14
R-Moore74

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Thanks!

BEntHeli
Who says it can't fly? - Just watch and I'll make it!!

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03-14-2010 10:26 PM  8 years agoPost 15
wthford

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All the Ebay scam takes is two or three people in cahoots to push the price up like that. One of them wins with an outrageous price, and because he is in on it, is not obligated to pay. Nobody else is the wiser. It just shows up that the item sold for that price. Very dishonest. Then the item is relisted under a different seller, and because the other item sold for such an inflated price, it can be referenced. It's called a SCAM. 650 for a Cricket is WAY out of line. I learned on one. Only thing is was good for was hovering and very slow forward flight.

How can I soar with the Eagles when I work with turkeys??

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03-15-2010 01:18 AM  8 years agoPost 16
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Wow! So many opinions! I believe in the statement that one man's junk is another man's treasure. Personally, I've purchased items from Ebay whos pricees were WAY over the norm. Scam or not, if someone is willing to pay a considerable price, then they're willing to pay a considerable price. Those of you hobbyists that were around in the 70's no doubt remember the Cox engine powered vehicles of the day. My favorite toy as a young boy was the Cox Three Wheeled Chopper Motorcycle. I saved my allowance for two months to afford the $14.95 plus tax cost. I loved it so much that when I discovered Ebay in the late 90's, I found a new in box example and paid $285.00 for it !!!! Collector's item or not, for nostalgic reasons, I HAD to have it. It sits displayed on my dresser, mounted on a cool custom fabricated stand, backed up with an original Cox advertisement for the very thing! To this day, I'm whisked away to my childhood every time I look at it. If I knew, when I bought it, how it would make me feel, I would have paid more for it, guaranteed! My point is that nobody should ever feel that they overpaid to obtain something that they want. It only has to satisfy them, and nobody else.

As far as the last statement regarding the Cricket, I disagree. Sure I cannot do autos, inverted flight, or 3-D with it, but the loops and barrel rolls it performs are flawless and it draws more attention at the field than any other helicopter.

Steve

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03-15-2010 03:16 AM  8 years agoPost 17
v22chap

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I'll second all that above Steve ,, well put and I have done that too lately

Larry C ----------Bergen R/C helicopters

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03-15-2010 07:35 AM  8 years agoPost 18
ch-47c

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one man's junk is another man's treasure.
That is a true statement. Back to the bidding on that particular Cricket. If that is what the winner of the bidding paid, if there was even a winner, so be it.

The way the bidding ended, with no Reserve or Buy it Now posted in the eBay auction sounds fishy. I mean it is an auction. It wasn't handled as the rules are posted, so it sounds like a scam. I think you can't do any side deal with anyone, but only use the auction method. If he does it enough and someone reports him, he is done. Yes? As someone stated earlier, the seller apparantly has other stuff for sell like a store and appears to be drumming up the price of his stuff. Most items I've seen for sell have a lot of pics to show that the item is worthy of a high price. He had only a pic of the boxtop for the kit. It just sounds fishy is all.

I'm into street rods as well. A lot of guys have a for sale sign painted on their side windows with a price that is a little more than it would sell for. I feel some guys just like to think their crap is worth a lot so much, that they permanently paint it on their cars.

Just my 2 cents worth.

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03-16-2010 01:21 AM  8 years agoPost 19
rcpilotmike

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So what is the status on the rebel. Did it end up on ebay yet

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03-18-2010 12:58 AM  8 years agoPost 20
wthford

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Well, I got rid of my Cricket right at about the time that I got really good at all phases of hovering. At that point, I got a Kalt Baron 20, and found it much easier to control when it got into forward flight. I suppose with my current flight skills, I could see it doing what you say. I wish I still had it, but I will surely not be spending 600+ to get one...

Loops and rolls... with the flat bottom blades?

How can I soar with the Eagles when I work with turkeys??

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