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03-11-2010 05:49 PM  8 years agoPost 1
nivlek

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Hello People ,
The flying site that my local club has flown at for over 35 years , is under serious threat . My Dad and myself have flown there sinse 1978 , and I was hoping to fly there for several more years , but it is looking very much in doubt now .

http://www.windpowerrenewables.com/...num=6&startnum=

On the windpowerrenewables site , there is a pre-prepared letter encouraging people to download it , sign it , and send it to the planning council supporting the plan . They obviously beleive that public support will help swing it . So , if any of you , especially from the UK , would like to send in a letter of objection , explaining that wind power is not viable , I would appreciate it .

At the end of the day , it gets dark .

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03-11-2010 05:57 PM  8 years agoPost 2
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there just installing an awesome spinning...OBSTACLE COURSE!!!

kidding aside i will fill out and send it in

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03-12-2010 05:15 PM  8 years agoPost 3
nivlek

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Thanks VooDoo .

At the end of the day , it gets dark .

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03-12-2010 05:20 PM  8 years agoPost 4
rchelichop

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So windpower is not a viable source of energy because it's taking away flying sites? lol.

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03-12-2010 05:31 PM  8 years agoPost 5
nivlek

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No , it's just economically not viable . They get funding because they are 'green' , if they were not subsidised , they wouldn't get built . If the wind don't blow , you get no power .

There is far more energy to be 'harvested' from tidal energy and as Britain is an island , it would make far more sense to invest the money and developement there .

The only real 'green' choice is actually nuclear power .

At the end of the day , it gets dark .

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03-12-2010 05:46 PM  8 years agoPost 6
Andy from Sandy

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All things considered we are an over-crowded island. Some of the sites chosen are quite close to where people live and some research has shown they can affect peoples lives.

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03-12-2010 06:18 PM  8 years agoPost 7
Yug

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It also gets quite windy so this may happen sooner or later.....

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03-12-2010 06:25 PM  8 years agoPost 8
rchelichop

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Well thats mis-information at its finest. That wind turbine had mechanical problems, read the info on the utube link.

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03-12-2010 06:34 PM  8 years agoPost 9
nivlek

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That wind turbine had mechanical problems
No sh1t , Sherlock !

At the end of the day , it gets dark .

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03-12-2010 06:54 PM  8 years agoPost 10
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03-12-2010 07:21 PM  8 years agoPost 11
Fnity

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Maybe you can tap into the power generated to charge your Lipos

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03-12-2010 09:45 PM  8 years agoPost 12
Terrabit

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This might be a situation where you have to look at the big picture. Whether one believes in global warming or not there is no skirting the fact that fossil fuels are a limmited resource that is in decline. Simultaneously global energy demand and cost is increasing. This puts us, meaning the human race, on a collision course with disaster. Noone is disputing this.

What are we to do about that? Are wind turbines the answer? Maybe, maybe not. Solar? Wave generators? Nuclear? Geothermal? Maybe. Maybe not. The circumstances dictate that we, again - the human race with emphasis on the first world nations who have benefited from centuries of exploitation, develop answers to these questions.

To be certain, there will be winners and losers. But, we must keep pushing the envelope. Even failure can have the benefit of moving consciousness forward. The consequence of inaction is a luxury that we simply cannot afford.

I don't mean to be insensitive to your cause. Condolences may well be in order. Best wishes.

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03-12-2010 10:04 PM  8 years agoPost 13
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The big picture is that too many people live on a small planet. And, as they say, that, too, will change at some point.
Save the field. Wind turbines kill birds of prey. Little helicopters are more "green".
We have a huge wind farm here in the Altimont Pass. It has wiped out many golden eagles. It does not produce enough energy to pay for the installation. It is not by any standards a "green" power solution. Without government subsidies it would not exist.

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03-12-2010 10:07 PM  8 years agoPost 14
maxw

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so is that on eye airfield its self ????

if so that will mean no more airshows either im guessing ??

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03-12-2010 10:24 PM  8 years agoPost 15
helicoop

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Just read that wind turbines are contributing to globil warming

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03-12-2010 11:02 PM  8 years agoPost 16
Terrabit

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Questioning the Merrits of Wind-Power
Doubt is a powerful tool in the fight against change. Cigarettes were once promoted as an "enhancement to physical performance." Maybe they are under some set of extenuating circumstances. Most people now agree that the long-term consequences far outweigh any short-term benefits.

My father did IT for the US Airforce before there was "IT" per se. The computers he maintained cost billions in today's dollars. Now, your cellphone contains more sophistocated cicuitry, and what do these cost? The point is that very little progress occurs while people sit around debating the merrits of some solution. Progress happens in the doing.

I worked for a man who taught me never to come to him with a problem unless I was ready to propose a solution. "If the building is on fire, call 911. Otherwise, come with some ideas." It's far easier to criticize someone elses ideas than it is to think up your own.
The big picture is that too many people live on a small planet. And, as they say, that, too, will change at some point.
Tens of thousands of species have been selected for extinction throughout the various eras, periods and epochs. We are certainly not exempt from this process. We might well see a shift in this direction before our planet reaches its estimated carying capacity of somewhere around twelve billion. If and when that occurs the odds are that we will be the ones who trigger it.

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03-12-2010 11:32 PM  8 years agoPost 17
nivlek

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But, we must keep pushing the envelope. Even failure can have the benefit of moving consciousness forward. The consequence of inaction is a luxury that we simply cannot afford.

I don't mean to be insensitive to your cause. Condolences may well be in order. Best wishes.
So , how many wind farms need to be built before we realise that it's a crock ? It is nothing more than political appeasement . How many times is it OK for the same idea to fail ? Germany is the greatest user of wind turbines , with around 20,000 turbines , how many conventional power stations have they been able to replace ? None .

At the end of the day , it gets dark .

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03-12-2010 11:47 PM  8 years agoPost 18
Yug

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Given that I have never found any conclusive reports over the cost effectiveness of wind turbines plus I have a gut feeling that they aren't, at the grid level. However at smaller scale applications they plobraby do compete quite well.
I allways loved the idea of 'cell' based power generation, using solar power to convert water to hydrogen, storing the hydrogen and using it to power our homes and cars (& helis) either by way of fuel cells or conventional combustion engines. That bloke in the US did something similar with huge success.

As an afterthought, how about harnessing the energy developed by humans after being provoked by an RR discussion on religion. Food > bio-energy > passionate disagreement > heat + kinetic energy. Perhaps tricky to harness the latter, but an interesting concept none the less.

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03-13-2010 12:09 AM  8 years agoPost 19
Terrabit

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I don't expect we're going to agree. That's okay. However, it is safe to say that energy costs will continue to rise as will demand. Like everything else, costs are relative.

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03-13-2010 12:58 AM  8 years agoPost 20
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In the interest of complete disclosure it should be known that I have spent the last three years (three more to go) in school with the ultimate goal of working in alternative energy, solar specifically.

I am admittedly biased.

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