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03-11-2010 01:56 AM  8 years agoPost 1
john howard

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just wondering If these airplane have cameras mounted around the outside of the plane so the pilot can see the outside In real time?I have a picture i downloaded from the net that shows a view from the vertical stab looking down the top of the fuse and the thought came to mind.

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03-11-2010 02:18 AM  8 years agoPost 2
Taipan

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I just flew on an A380 for the first time the other week coming back from a fun fly From Auckland, New Zealand to Sydney, Australia. Awesome plane, downstairs there is more space to move in as the walls slope out not in.

It was Emirates. Every seat had a massive TV on the back of it with heaps of movies etc.

They also showed the view from the plane's external cameras. One under the nose looking forward & another looking down. Last one was on top of the vertical stabilizer looking forward. Like the pic above but further back & could see all 4 engines easily.

We watched the view from the top upon taking off, very cool! And when we docked, the planes next to us looked tiny in comparision. The stabilizer is 80ft tall or so, the height of a 8 storey building, higher than the tarmac floodlights!

I'd say maybe these are the only external cameras?

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03-11-2010 02:24 AM  8 years agoPost 3
hootowl

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This plane is probably going the same route as the Concorde. They will be lucky to have 100 in service.... ever.

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03-11-2010 09:21 AM  8 years agoPost 4
NZ_Neil

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Taipan, forget downstairs, try the upper deck on an Emirates A380. My wife and I flew Auckland Sydney Return upstairs recently and its the best Business Class seating you will find in anywhere.

Every seat has its own cooled minibar and after dinner you wander down to the cocktail bar at the back of the plane where they serve you any drink you want and sit in on huge couches and talk with others passengers, then they serve you yet more food ....

A380 and is an awesome aircraft, the aircraft is huge and yes has had a rocky start but they are now rolling out 18+ a year. It wont be mothballed.

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03-11-2010 10:01 AM  8 years agoPost 5
hootowl

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Financially it's a bust for Airbus. Orders have fallen. The rates you see now are only temporary. As nice as it may be, nice doesn't make money. The A380 is a result of marketing misjudgement, strategic gameplaying by Boeing and pride.

If you followed the evolution of the program it started when Boeing was talking about a 747 replacement. Boeing kept sending signals that it was going to build a new state of the art super jumbo. Airbus was saying the same. There isn't enough market for both. Internally Boeing new it was not going to do it. They put signals out, concepts and dates all along no real intention of moving ahead unless the markets dictated it would be viable. Internal studies showed too high of a risk.

So while Airbus is spending itself silly on this white elephant, Boeing ramps up the 787 program. They made the right decision because that is where the market lies.

Bigger isn't always better.

Airbus is having major production issues even this far into the program. Part of the problem is each aircraft is custom ordered. It's one thing to build thousands of low budget clones but when each aircraft has many unique options, management of it becomes critical.

Airbus marketed this airplane to be able to weather through economic downturns by flying more people. That isn't working. The airlines are parking them and using smaller planes because they can't fill it.

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03-11-2010 01:22 PM  8 years agoPost 6
SSN Pru

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how long is the route between auckland and sydney?

how full was the plane?

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03-11-2010 03:06 PM  8 years agoPost 7
Taipan

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3 hours. Plane was full! I belive this particular A380 flies Auckland - Sydney - Singapore - Dubai. Back & forth on a daily basis.

Neill, come on, how can you compare business class to economy which is what we flew in? Business would be great to fly in!

Who knows what will happen in the future? Boeing have yet to deliver any 787's or roll out their 747-8 Intercontinental which has 787 technology built in.

I'm still dreaming about mach 7 hypersonic sub-orbital travel, Sydney to anywhere in the world in 2-3 hours.

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03-11-2010 05:02 PM  8 years agoPost 8
hootowl

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Who knows what will happen in the future? Boeing have yet to deliver any 787's or roll out their 747-8 Intercontinental which has 787 technology built in.
Both are flying.

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03-12-2010 12:01 AM  8 years agoPost 9
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I'm not impressed with the A380 reliability when it first came out.

My co-worker who left to work for Emirates line maintenance in JFK, told me the first flight the A380 came to JFK in Emirates colors, the VGX (generator) and one of the booster fuel pumps was deferred because they were inop.
Wasn't impressed.

The A380 has tail cameras in the tail near the very tip of the vertical stab, this was put there for the pilots to see the landing gear position when they make turns. Since it's so wide that airports who will be getting the A380 service had to widen some taxiways and fill in more pavement in some turns. This proven costly.

The 777 does have tail cameras in the horz. stab for the landing gear positions on the ground, it's also used in flight and you can see the rear of the engine. At some point in flight, you can see the last stage turbine disc glow in the dark.

In flight video cameras have been used on domestic flights in the US but the crash of flight 191 has changed this.
Passgeners on that fated flight saw the video feed of the aircraft heading towards the ground sideways.

To date I do not know of any domestic airline that still uses live video feed on board other than international carriers.

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03-14-2010 01:54 PM  8 years agoPost 10
DarkSide41

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just wondering If these airplane have cameras mounted around the outside of the plane so the pilot can see the outside In real time?
eh, my truck had a backup camera way back in '97 and just about every soccer moms minivan comes equipped with those now. The minibar for every seat idea is cool though

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03-14-2010 04:22 PM  8 years agoPost 11
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"A380 came to JFK in Emirates colors, the VGX (generator) and one of the booster fuel pumps was deferred because they were inop.
Wasn't impressed"

So the 747 never has/had issues with fuelpumps then

I guess there's a few out there not impressed with yaw actuators
on 737's either

Don't matter who builds 'em, they all have problems

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03-14-2010 04:42 PM  8 years agoPost 12
777ER

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So the 747 never has/had issues with fuelpumps then

I guess there's a few out there not impressed with yaw actuators
on 737's either

Don't matter who builds 'em, they all have problems
I'm saying with today's tech, you'd expect a improvement in reliability...look at the cars we drive today. Engines are built with better quality and reliability...heck they can keep on running til 300k or a lil more before needing a overhaul.

When Singapore took the first few delivery, one of them went AOG for almost a week due to fuel pumps problem, even the supplier who made the fuel pumps had to go over and assist with the fuel system trouble shooting.

It wasn't the actuators on the 737, it was the servo valve that caused the rudder hardover event. That in turn commanded the actuators to go full left or right rudder with the hyd's own pressure controlling it which the pilot's rudder pedals should have overriden it.

No one could figure it out why it was doing that for a while until a military testing method was used.

What they did was deep freeze the servo valve in cryo and then took it out, hooked up hot hyd fluid supply to it, they got the servo valve to jam up and reverse operation.

A new one was designed and a SB was set out to have all the rudder PCU's replaced with a updated part #.

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03-14-2010 05:58 PM  8 years agoPost 13
mrloudly

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If it's going to go wrong, it'll normally be when it's new.

I drive an R8 that's been back four times for re-calls. Jeez look at Toyota, maybe Boeing and Airbus aren't that bad after all!!

Andy M

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03-14-2010 06:06 PM  8 years agoPost 14
777ER

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From my experience, the first 2 weeks of a brand new aircraft will have the most problems. After that it's all goes smooth from there on.

-Chris

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03-17-2010 03:54 AM  8 years agoPost 15
flojos1999

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I flew one this weekend...

Watch at YouTube

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03-17-2010 05:36 AM  8 years agoPost 16
GimbalFan (RIP)

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I flew one this weekend...
Too cool.

op-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-t

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03-19-2010 02:39 PM  8 years agoPost 17
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The 380 cannot go the same route as Concorde. By that I mean the 380 is far too slow and ugly in comparison.

What we need in 2010 is hypersonic, sub-orbital, London to Tokyo in 45 minute type aircraft

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03-19-2010 02:43 PM  8 years agoPost 18
z11355

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the 380 is the commercial equiv of BUFF.

I think/hope it becomes a white elephant for Airbus. I dont think there is anywhere near the market for them to recoup their investment. Then compound that w/ the A400M debacle and their paper 350AWXB redesign which will be 5 years late to compete w/ the 787.

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03-20-2010 01:04 AM  8 years agoPost 19
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Press de mouse button and move it to look arround
http://www.gillesvidal.com/blogpano/cockpit1.htm

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03-20-2010 02:43 AM  8 years agoPost 20
hootowl

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Very cool!

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