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03-09-2010 12:28 AM  8 years agoPost 1
jackheli

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Well, tried a plank again after about 5 years of drought... thought I could have good relaxed flights in between heli 3D...

Spent about 30 hours building an ARF kit that should take 4-6 (from the box advertisement...)

Went up a couple of times... felt really confident... started spinning and hovering and torque rolling and bang!...

While inverted I pulled down on collective... ops, I mean throttle (why would I do that, you ask...)

...big stall, tried to recover by pulling down on the left stick further!

The plane is gone after only 4 flights... I'll stick to helis from now on.

It's easy to find an excuse to do wrong. Hard is not to find an excuse to do right.

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03-09-2010 12:32 AM  8 years agoPost 2
Wingman77

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Pulaski Tennessee

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still in normal mode?

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03-09-2010 12:33 AM  8 years agoPost 3
onebigjunker

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Wellsville, Ks

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may be if you would of hovered you heli, and not the plane you would of been fine, plane are made to go forward not stay staitionary!!!good luck wit hthe heli, you can treat it like a plane and it wont care!

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03-09-2010 12:34 AM  8 years agoPost 4
jbdww

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I hear you. With a heli, you have a lot more options to bail out. With an airplane your always going forward.
I crashed an airplane after flying it for a hand full of flights.

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03-09-2010 12:37 AM  8 years agoPost 5
Wingman77

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there are also a lot more ways to get goofed up with a heli.

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03-09-2010 01:23 AM  8 years agoPost 6
GimbalFan (RIP)

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Big Coppitt Key, FL

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While inverted I pulled down on collective... ops, I mean throttle
I had the same issue after adding planks to the fleet. Probably most guys who start with helis have this problem. After several close calls I even considered programming my planks using a heli template and a mode switch so as to avoid NCWI PS (Negative-Collective-While-Inverted Plank Syndrome).

Instead I just reprogrammed the meat gimbal. Took awhile but it's learnable.

Planks are great. They're relaxing. They're fun in different ways than helis are fun -- and at the very least they'll make you appreciate your helis even more.

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03-09-2010 01:28 AM  8 years agoPost 7
ESWLFSE

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Liberty Hill, TX

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Planks are dangerous and hard to fly. Stick with helis.

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03-09-2010 01:35 AM  8 years agoPost 8
FlyBarz

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Planes are EASY to fly but much harder to fix dont like themn anymore!

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03-09-2010 01:43 AM  8 years agoPost 9
Mioca

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Planes = wood = boring... Torque Rolls and ??
Helis = Hover, Tic Toc, Kaos, Piro Flip, Pie Dish... NO! landing strip..

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03-09-2010 01:43 AM  8 years agoPost 10
helibeast

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Bad heli crash = straighten bent pieces, replace broken pieces, fly again.
Bad plank crash = pick motor and electronics out of debris, sweep rest into trash bag.

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03-09-2010 02:01 AM  8 years agoPost 11
red_z06

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Dumont, NJ

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Here are few of plank maneuvers that can't be duplicated and very cool.

6+ sec slow roll.
high alpha knife-edge pass full length of the runway
snap roll
rolling harrier

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03-09-2010 03:03 AM  8 years agoPost 12
QuantumPSI

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I stopped flying planes for nearly all the reasons posted here. Still, I love having a foamy! My Airfoilz yak 55 was a blast to fly to take a break from the required concentration of helis. I wonder if they still make them....

...now where was I, dh/dt = BS-dx/dt
I will fly you forever... till earth do us part

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03-09-2010 03:38 AM  8 years agoPost 13
red_z06

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I wonder if they still make them....
They still do.

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03-09-2010 04:03 AM  8 years agoPost 14
McKrackin

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Lucasville,Ohio

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I do the same thing on the sim.
I have been considering a plank for some slow fun but on the sim,when I get inverted,I cut the throttle from habit.lol...
Doesn't work very well.

I wonder if idle up would help?A curve like 100-50-100 so pulling down would accelerate the same as pushing up.Hmmm.....

I think my first plank would be something like a 4-Site.They cab fly like 1 mph

I literally never use the word literally right.

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03-09-2010 05:28 AM  8 years agoPost 15
red_z06

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Best way for heli pilot to get into plank is to not use the left stick for a while. For normal flying, set the throttle at 3/4 and fly using aile and elev only.

For fast roll maneuvers, you can skip the rudder corrections. Doing this will cure the throttle to idle on inverted syndrome.

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03-09-2010 05:54 AM  8 years agoPost 16
chopper_crazy

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Delphos, Ohio

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when you crash a plane you add more weight and balsa wood

when you crash a heli you put on new parts, don't add any extra weight and you have a brand new heli when its done

It's a complex, costly, glow powered anti-gravity machine!

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03-09-2010 06:02 AM  8 years agoPost 17
flyhud

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Allen, TX

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Or you can do what I do...mode 1 for planes, mode 2 for helis.

I dont always fly helis, but when I do, I prefer Outrage.The most interesting man in the world

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03-09-2010 07:25 AM  8 years agoPost 18
heliman79

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Dothan, alabama united states

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you guys are not alone, i did this 2 days ago with my suhkoi su26, puttin on a good show at the local park and almost prop drove it into the asphalt, thats why its a good idea to break the plank out ever so often, makes you realize just how easy helis are to fly

Yes i have an ADDICTION and no i dont need HELP!

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03-09-2010 01:15 PM  8 years agoPost 19
JRjoe

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Jonesville , IN USA #1

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Never had that problem here. But then again i fly both on a regular basis. Heck i pretty much learned both at the same time. Started with helis first but soon after purchased a FireBird just to calm down between heli flights.


JRjoe.....
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03-09-2010 02:18 PM  8 years agoPost 20
Chris Lupa

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Lancaster, UK

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Sorry for your loss, but I found that funny - I had the exact same thing happen a few years back, although I just managed to scrape away.

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