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03-08-2010 10:43 AM  8 years agoPost 1
helibeast

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Even if some companies help a country that sponsors terrorist. What the hell, a bucks a buck.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...hpid=sec-nation
http://money.cnn.com/2003/05/29/news/iran_sanctions/

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03-08-2010 02:51 PM  8 years agoPost 2
fla heli boy

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can't even blame this one on Obama. Not even Bush II. Who knows how far back this goes.

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03-08-2010 06:25 PM  8 years agoPost 3
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Well, it was business as usual with the Nazi's so your right, it seems to just about define the american way "Profit without remorse" even when you do business with people who would kill your family.

Why do Americans value money over the lives of others SO CASUALLY.

You Value money over freedom. And Wilson made the exchange for you with those who could provide that instant money... for a price.

Fla, I have to ask, back when we disagreed a lot more, I asked you to look into the federal reserve act and I said it was when Woodrow Wilson signed away **with trickery** all the freedom gained during the American Revolution. Did you ever bother? Did you ever take the time to figure out what I was talking about?

My biggest problem with America is when the average american, who is greatly ignorant of anything outside the borders of the USA, starts to talk about how everyone envy's you for your freedom (not realizing they don't have any), and then says it's that (non existing) envy that drives people in other countries to hate the USA. Not the fact you intefer in things that are none of your business, which the examples above clearly indicate.

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03-08-2010 06:33 PM  8 years agoPost 4
Dennis (RIP)

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My biggest problem with America is when the average american, who is greatly ignorant of anything outside the borders of the USA,
The same with some folks in Canada.
starts to talk about how everyone envy's you for your freedom (not realizing they don't have any), and then says it's that (non existing) envy that drives people in other countries to hate the USA
Yeah, that must be why people keep swamping our borders and coming here to try and better their lives with most succeeding.

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03-08-2010 07:07 PM  8 years agoPost 5
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My buddy is a boiler operator, and he showed me the inside of there system. Creepy is not the word for it. But the most interesting part of the inside of the boilers were the swastika stamps....Oh, you can get rid of anything you want down there for a small fee too...........

"I just don't Listen" "

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03-08-2010 08:22 PM  8 years agoPost 6
fla heli boy

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no I didn't Smitty, but I've been meaning to, as you are not the only one to bring that whole subkect up. Maybe I'm afraid of what I'll find???

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03-08-2010 09:08 PM  8 years agoPost 7
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OK, in a nutshell, America had a revolution against England because england was trying to establish tax revenues from you. England was so desprete that they pretty much dropped all tax except for a tiny tax on tea they were hoping to keep in place (prolly to inflate at a later date once you accepted the tax)

You guys were having none of it. You revolted (The boston tea party was all about NOT accepting TAX) And then you began to issue your own currency. Done. Very respectable motives and results. You should be proud.

Then people, The rockerfellers, the Asters and the like, who wanted more than the gazillions they had, (you should have shot them for that rabid greed) devised a plan to make a run on the banks (all the rich people show up at the bank at once and demand all thier cash, regular people hear of this and get scarred and do the same, the bank goes bankrupt.)

This was done to shake the average americans faith in the monatary system. It almost worked on it's own. When the criminals above showed up to tell everyone how THEY could protect them (for a price no different from a tax) you almost bought into it, but didn't.

Then in 1913, you erased all of it. You gave up your right to issue your own currency (tax free at that) and became slaves to the federal reserve system which LENDS money to the good old USA FOR INTEREST (TAX)

This was done on Dec 23.... How many people do you think were in congress that day? Why is such an obvious breech of trust allowed to go on as if there is nothing that can be done once it's voted on even if the vote was a proven fix.

So, for every dollar that exists in the USA, the USA owes that dollar plus it's tax. And you cannot issue your own money anymore. so you see, if you put 1 dollar in the bank every day and took out $1.25 .... well, you can see it's a debt cycle that never ends.

To really let you know how deep the deciet goes, consider that the FEDERAL reserve and the FEDERAL reserve act are really no different than FEDERAL express, which isn't federal at all now is it.

You see, the same rich people that forced the run on the banks to discredit your monatary system ARE the federal reserve. It was a plan all along to take over america.

They care not who you elect for president, All presidents end up borrowing and paying back (with interest) money obtained under thier rules.

Here is how it works: You borrow money from the federal reserve, they give it to you and immidiately add the interest you will be paying for the USE of that money to thier bottom line. After a while of lending freely, they then start to dry up the money supply, which by now exists largly on paper and is not held in reserve at all (there is no such thing as fort. Knox in this day and age. Sorry, no gold to back up the numbers floating in cyberspace. In fact, the second the interest is calculated on YOUR loan, that money you haven't paid a penny on yet is being loaned to someone else, even though it has never existed.)

So, by drying up the money supply (the federal reserve stops lending money), people have a hard time finding REAL money to cover the debts they have accumulated and the banks start foreclosing. (Taking back property you bought with credit granted by people who represent money that doesn't exist)

There is a name for this, it is called a recession. It is totally predictible because we know exactly when the money starts drying up. Someone with the strings in his hand makes a choice on when to start getting his fat self richer faster and causes many people to lose homes and savings and anything they managed to do to better themselves so the fat cats can get a little fatter.

Your national debt is owed to private interests. You work every day to help others profit for using thier money because Woodrow wilson signed away yor freedom in 1913.

Read it yourself, it's all over the internet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_Act

So NOW do you see why it's funny when people say America is a Christian nation because they have "In God We Trust" on your money? The joke is, first, you have no money. And second, the private company called the federal reserve could put hitler on the bills and there is nothing you can do about it. (not that they would, they like you fat and happy to pay so why upset you)

Sorry,

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03-08-2010 09:39 PM  8 years agoPost 8
Chris Bergen

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Wilson was elected President as a Democrat in 1912.
In his first term, Wilson persuaded a Democratic Congress to pass the Federal Reserve Act,[3] Federal Trade Commission, the Clayton Antitrust Act, the Federal Farm Loan Act and America's first-ever federal progressive income tax in the Revenue Act of 1913.
Imagine....

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03-08-2010 09:49 PM  8 years agoPost 9
eSmith

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Sure Chris, He was a democrat. I have no affiliation one way or the other. I also think there are a fair amount of democratic republicans and republican democrats, and then all those in the middle that don't favor one side over the other at all.

One thing to consider, democrat or republican, your all Americans and all are effected the same way by this.

Heck, in Canada Obama would be considered a conservitive (Thats a Canadian republican)

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03-08-2010 11:19 PM  8 years agoPost 10
philip 01

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the federal reserve act is the root of our ills.

and of course the fact that the majority of americans do not understand what the federal reserve is.

stupid is as stupid does. i hate to say but 'americans' pretty much deserve what they get. 'they' let it happen and are unwilling to do anything about it.

btw, the average 'voter' is and idiot and 'they' would be the majority. sad but true. disgusting, the level of ignorance the 'american people' have bought into. hook, line, and sinker.

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03-09-2010 02:22 AM  8 years agoPost 11
Inspector Fuzz

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The best thing about living in Canada is that you have the US to defend you and buy your goods.

I bet Mexico would overthrow Canada if the two countries bordered each other.

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03-09-2010 03:54 AM  8 years agoPost 12
baby uh1

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esmith,
Is Canada's money tied to the UK's? I ask because I really do not know.
Also, How is the economic problems affecting your country?

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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03-09-2010 10:25 AM  8 years agoPost 13
shawmcky

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esmith
have to agree with your last post(See the dollar bubble post in this section,pretty much spells this out)i think Americas future will be decided pretty much outside of the country rather than in it now.We in the Uk are along for the bumpy ride as well.

Team- unbiased opinion.K.I.S.S principle upheld here

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03-09-2010 04:08 PM  8 years agoPost 14
eSmith

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Well, in Canada, we really have it no better, we do business with the federal reserve. The difference is we never did put our foot down and put a stop to it like you did, for a while anyway.

The recession isn't that bad in Alberta, the oil and gas industry here is strong so we didn't see huge job losses or anything like that. Other proviences felt it a lot worse. I wouldn't want to be building cars.

The company I work for is strong so we didn't hurt to bad, we actually took advantage and are gearing up to increase our market share.

Inspector fuzz, pardon the pun but you haven't got a clue. Without us, you would be sitting in the dark dying of thurst. You need Canada more than we need you. NOBODY is out to go to war with Canada, we don't need defending. We would welcome a boarder with Mexico, there are wonderful people there with a rich culture.

Also, Remember when we burned down your whitehouse for being so arrogant.....?

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03-09-2010 04:14 PM  8 years agoPost 15
Dennis (RIP)

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Also, Remember when we burned down your whitehouse for being so arrogant.....?
Try that again smitty.

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03-09-2010 08:15 PM  8 years agoPost 16
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is the root of our ills
Greed is the root of your ills....

“Getting an inch of snow is like winning 10 cents in the lottery.”

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03-09-2010 08:28 PM  8 years agoPost 17
eSmith

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And greed is at the root of the federal reserve.

-eSmith.

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03-10-2010 12:12 AM  8 years agoPost 18
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the federal reserve is the greatest scam ever perpetuated upon the american people.

what is as amazing is that very few people understand what the federal reserve is and how it works and why it exists nor do they really care.

they (the fr) do this right in our faces and 90% don't even realize it. perhaps more than 90%. it has become obvious that the vast majority of american citizens are ignorant and not much is going to change.

'voting' won't help you much when you consider the average intellect of the vast majority of voters in this country.

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03-10-2010 12:53 AM  8 years agoPost 19
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eSmith spelled it out pretty clear I think, best explanation I've heard anyway. And monkey nuttz said "the vast majority of American citizens are ignorant and not much is going to change." I don't know about the rest of you, but this was something I never heard about when I was in school. Hard to be ignorant about something you didn't know about up until recently. Funny how the folks with the wealth can dictate what and how we're taught. Looking back on my educational years, there's a lot of stuff that I was taught (and obviously stuff that was, shall we say, 'overlooked'?) that I know now may not have been what actually happened. Example: Thomas Edison was an American Hero. I know now that a lot of Tommy's 'inventions were borrowed (stolen?) from other folks. I'm drifting off topic here, sorry.

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03-10-2010 01:22 AM  8 years agoPost 20
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my point exactly. the federal reserve is not something that came up recently and i first heard about in high school in 1982. JFK was against it in his day and probably why he was assasinated.
(reintroducing greenbacks and doing away with the FR - huge topic back then)

the federal reserve is not a recently topic by any means.

speaking of 'school', who discovered america? it was not christopher columbus.

people were already here, but what did 'they' tell you? they didn't count? who says?

"the vast majority of American citizens are ignorant and not much is going to change."

it's true.

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