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03-08-2010 09:36 AM  8 years agoPost 41
Tintin

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Saying "we" walked all over them too is funny.
I fail to see why it was funny. Do you excuse wrong doings because of their European origin? Either stand by your bad decisions (bad decisions made by your elected leaders if you wish) and don't hide behind that "we're all in it together" crap as we clearly are not.
You make your own decisions, you act upon them ignoring those that don't agree. Afterwards you want those you igeored to share blame and economical consequences of your actions...be the man you claim to be and clean up your own mess...
As for a better place....that might have been the case once....but it's a loong time ago now....time to wake up....and there too, stop blaiming others, you've made your bed entirely by yourself..

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03-08-2010 12:35 PM  8 years agoPost 42
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Do you excuse wrong doings because of their European origin?
No but you should because I have Norwegian in my bloodline.

I personally may not have dont things exactly as my ancestors did.
Do you think we should all just pack up and move pack to Europe or wherever else we may have been from.I am sure the native Americans may have taken over some other tribe that was here before them,thats life.
you've made your bed entirely by yourself..
Oh I love my cozy bed.I think its you that has a problem with my bed....maybe envious or something.Dont be upset because your family were too lazy to get on the boat.LOL

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03-09-2010 12:04 PM  8 years agoPost 43
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I fail to see why it was funny. Do you excuse wrong doings because of their European origin? Either stand by your bad decisions (bad decisions made by your elected leaders if you wish) and don't hide behind that "we're all in it together" crap as we clearly are not.
You make your own decisions, you act upon them ignoring those that don't agree. Afterwards you want those you igeored to share blame and economical consequences of your actions...be the man you claim to be and clean up your own mess...
As for a better place....that might have been the case once....but it's a loong time ago now....time to wake up....and there too, stop blaiming others, you've made your bed entirely by yourself..
We are in this together. Terrorism, writ large, is something that should not be tolerated and should be condemned by all civilized people. The blowing up of civilians and non-military targets with the specific purpose of driving fear into the populace is by it's definition, terrorism. Your comments are akin to those that wanted to sit back and let Nazi Germany do it's thing in the late 1930's. "Oh, well, you all weren't very nice to them in WWI, so you kind of get what you deserve." or "it's not our problem, we weren't involved before so we aren't going to get involved now." Frankly, your position as listed above is disgusting and cowardly.

You failed to answer my valid points in my previous post. I'll reiterate them so you aren't confused. What has Norway done for the global community? What has Norway done for countries in need of a better way of life or a non-oppressive government or for human rights? I'll save you the time, very little if anything at all. I can't recall the last time I heard anything about Norway being part of a peace force or part of humanitarian aid effort, because the simple fact is, they aren't. You choose to live in your own bubble and then dare to cast stones at those that actually do something in the global society as if you were on your own high horse? Disgusting...

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03-09-2010 08:03 PM  8 years agoPost 44
Tintin

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Terrorism, writ large, is something that should not be tolerated and should be condemned by all civilized people.
Absolutely, no doubt. However we tend to disagree upon what nourishes terrorism.
I can't recall the last time I heard anything about Norway being part of a peace force or part of humanitarian aid effort
That must just be because of your sheer ignorance then I guess, I'll enlighten you. We had people in Korea, we had forces in Lebanon for 30something years, Congo, various other places in Africa and are currently present in Afghanistan (and I know for sure as I've had friends in most of those places + others doing humanitarian work). If you had bothered to look you would have discovered our presence in lot's of humanitarian organizations, you would have discovered we contribute economically to such organizations about ten-fold (or is it twenty times...) per capita compared to your contributions....that was simply a pathetic and ignorant statement showing your general lack of knowledge about what actually goes on outside your borders. Heck we have even loaned you guys money to get back on your feet.

As for doing something for global society...well you surely manage to nourish terrorist recruitment, that's for sure. Did you help global society when you aided the Taliban so they got strong? If there is someone that really needs to get of their horse no matter size it's surely you guys and then open your bl..dy eyes...

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03-09-2010 08:16 PM  8 years agoPost 45
Dennis (RIP)

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Tintin
Absolutely, no doubt. However we tend to disagree upon what nourishes terrorism.
Radical Islam does. Praying on the illiterate and the poor to promote an ideology of killing the innocent to foster fear of Islam.

You seem to be the only one here that disagrees with that. If not the only one, then certainly the one of just a few.

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03-09-2010 08:53 PM  8 years agoPost 46
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"it's not our problem, we weren't involved before so we aren't going to get involved now." Frankly, your position as listed above is disgusting and cowardly.
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Well, that was pretty much the American position until they were bloody well dragged into the war by the nose. And I agree, for a bunch that keeps pretending they contribute to the global community it is disgusting and cowardly.

America does nothing in the global community it isn't going to profit from. Pure greed is all that EVER motivates you.

The biggest export from America these days is delusions of grandure.....

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03-09-2010 08:58 PM  8 years agoPost 47
McLovin

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America does nothing in the global community it isn't going to profit from. Pure greed is all that EVER motivates you.
So thats why Canada doesnt do squat.

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03-09-2010 09:01 PM  8 years agoPost 48
Dennis (RIP)

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The biggest export from America these days is delusions of grandure.....
Canada is the largest exporter of oil TO America. From your own words you can be determined a contributor.

America falls, and a very large share of the rest of the world goes with it. Including Canada.

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03-09-2010 09:53 PM  8 years agoPost 49
Tintin

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Sanctimonious comes do mind....tell McLovydovy...what have YOU yourself ever done...

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03-09-2010 10:21 PM  8 years agoPost 50
McLovin

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what have YOU yourself ever done...
You first.

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03-10-2010 12:10 AM  8 years agoPost 51
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That must just be because of your sheer ignorance then I guess, I'll enlighten you. We had people in Korea, we had forces in Lebanon for 30something years, Congo, various other places in Africa and are currently present in Afghanistan (and I know for sure as I've had friends in most of those places + others doing humanitarian work). If you had bothered to look you would have discovered our presence in lot's of humanitarian organizations, you would have discovered we contribute economically to such organizations about ten-fold (or is it twenty times...) per capita compared to your contributions....that was simply a pathetic and ignorant statement showing your general lack of knowledge about what actually goes on outside your borders. Heck we have even loaned you guys money to get back on your feet.

As for doing something for global society...well you surely manage to nourish terrorist recruitment, that's for sure. Did you help global society when you aided the Taliban so they got strong? If there is someone that really needs to get of their horse no matter size it's surely you guys and then open your bl..dy eyes...
I would argue that Norway, on a global scale, doesn't even scratch the amount of support the US gives out on a yearly basis. Is that aid always perfect? No. Sometimes the lesser evil is supported in favor of ridding the world of a greater evil (or at least the native populace of a far greater threat). It's easy to sit back in your armchair and pretend like you know what it's like out there in the world. It's easy to pretend you know what's going on in all those countries. Have you ever been in the Middle East for months at a time? Have you ever been to West or East Africa for periods of time (beyond a casual visit)? Ever been in Haiti? I'm sure you've been all over Europe, I have, but that wasn't my question. My questions are have you been to any of the third world countries I previously listed?

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03-10-2010 02:22 AM  8 years agoPost 52
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I was recently told that vacationing in different parts of the world is good because it helps you realize what we have in this country (USA).

We all need to humble ourselves with respect to all but we also have to understand that the world as a whole is very diversified.

Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep

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03-10-2010 03:31 AM  8 years agoPost 53
Dennis (RIP)

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I was recently told that vacationing in different parts of the world is good because it helps you realize what we have in this country (USA).

We all need to humble ourselves with respect to all but we also have to understand that the world as a whole is very diversified.
Tell the Radical Muslims that.

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03-10-2010 08:04 AM  8 years agoPost 54
Tintin

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I would argue that Norway, on a global scale, doesn't even scratch the amount of support the US gives out on a yearly basis.
Ehrm, since you have abt 75 times our population it would kinda ignorant to expect us to match you...in total. Make it comparable, that is per capita, and you are not a very big contributor anymore....but I guess you'd prefer to ignore comparisons that can actually be made, you might fall off your horse...

No I have not been to any part of the world were conflicts are ongoing, I choose to avoid them. However, it doesn't exclude me from having an opinion about the hate you create in our part of the world by your actions (or other parts for that matter). And it doesn't exclude me from having an opinion about how you now fight the same Talibans that you used to support when that was "politically correct".
I guess you can regret not letting the Russkies finish that job...

So Lovy, I guess nothing then...
but we also have to understand that the world as a whole is very diversified
Very true and it's pretty ignorant to think you can dictate how they all should act...

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03-10-2010 11:51 AM  8 years agoPost 55
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And it doesn't exclude me from having an opinion about how you now fight the same Talibans that you used to support when that was "politically correct".
We didn't support the Taliban, We supported the Mujahideen.
http://terrorism.about.com/od/warin...nistanWar_3.htm

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/taliban-time.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban

The Taliban are such morons that the Afghans couldn't fly kites because kite flying taunts the Angels. Imagine what the Taliban would do to RC heli pilots.

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03-10-2010 01:42 PM  8 years agoPost 56
Tintin

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Right, ok you helped Osamas gang, who are friends of the Talibans....seems it still was a gang you wouldn't support today huh?

Not much of a difference really and in hindsight still not your best move...but they fought the russkies so you were kinda "obliged" huh?

Think about it, if you had helped the russkies or gone for a peaceful solution to that conflict that country might have been stable today and you wouldn't be in the mess you are...and don't come saying you did it for the afghans, you care crp about afghans then and now.

“Getting an inch of snow is like winning 10 cents in the lottery.”

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03-10-2010 02:32 PM  8 years agoPost 57
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Think about it, if you had helped the russkies or gone for a peaceful solution to that conflict that country might have been stable today and you wouldn't be in the mess you are...and don't come saying you did it for the afghans, you care crp about afghans then and now.
I believe they did try hard for peace and asked the Russkies to back off.

But, to no avail. So we had to help put them down. It succeeded, then the Taliban turned on us. Why aren't you venting at them for that? At that time, the Russkies were our enemies, not the Taliban.

Norway may be a good country, but a weak people that takes sides against someone that would protect them in a pinch. Much like the Taliban. Weak.

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03-10-2010 03:40 PM  8 years agoPost 58
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The conflict might be over and the region stable today?

Seriously? That entire region has been in war for over 2000 years, you honestly think that one thing different would have changed that? You either don't read history (world) or you live a very sheltered existence. Of course, your crystal ball seems to have all the answers, so you tell me...

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03-10-2010 03:45 PM  8 years agoPost 59
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The conflict might be over and the region stable today?
Who knows. America has never been involved there except to help the Taliban boot the Russkies out.
Seriously? That entire region has been in war for over 2000 years, you honestly think that one thing different would have changed that? You either don't read history (world) or you live a very sheltered existence. Of course, your crystal ball seems to have all the answers, so you tell me...
No, I don't have all the answers. Not many do. But, to allow the Radical Muslims foothold anywhere is not an answer either. This thing is going to go on for many years. To bad. Vent your anger at the Radical Muslims and the Muslims that are to chicken to speak out against their own. Its well past time they do. Once there own disowns them worldwide and stops supporting them, the end of this would be much closer.

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03-10-2010 03:56 PM  8 years agoPost 60
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perfect Dennis. If the "average" (whatever the hell that is) Muslim would stand up and say ENOUGH ALREADY, it might make a difference. Maybe not. But at least they would not be getting lumped in with the extremists. I'll continue to do so (lump them all together) until I hear something from the majority that makes me change my mind.

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